boxing theory

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Originally Posted by iceman

perhaps gravity may but the games are very very different

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Just kidding around. ;) Physics don't care if you're boxing, thaiboxing, riding a bike or doing the Lindy Hop. It's all the same unless you live on another planet.

In all seriousness I'm not getting on your case... I just found that a funny way to use the term 'physics'.

I'm a certified now iceman. Got it done this summer. Is just a day program and almost anyone can do it. Even at my age, I had more ring experience, and experience around the ring then more then 3/4s of the class lol. I didn't get it to be a coach per se, but more so that I can work the corner and we can travel now with as little as 3 people to shows, as it is cheaper for us to travel that way. Learned some stuff, but really, is more just so I can throw a towel over my shoulder and it be legit with amateur boxing rules.

Most anything you learn, you learn by being in there and doing. Being at the club and with time. Certification is just a piece of paper, imo.

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Originally Posted by Youngblood

Is just a day program and almost anyone can do it. Even at my age, I had more ring experience, and experience around the ring then more then 3/4s of the class lol. I didn't get it to be a coach per se, but more so that I can work the corner and we can travel now with as little as 3 people to shows, as it is cheaper for us to travel that way. Learned some stuff, but really, is more just so I can throw a towel over my shoulder and it be legit with amateur boxing rules.

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That's a scary thought, that anyone who possesses that piece of paper can become responsible for the lives and safety of anyone who's interested in taking up boxing. Of course, there must be people who go through it and know what they're doing, but I shudder when thinking about the rest of the people, and by your estimate is more than 75% of the class. :-\

Anyways, congratulations on getting the certification. You can learn a lot from being in the corner just to help out, and I'm sure it'll give you a unique perspective as well.

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Originally Posted by Chris Nagel

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Originally Posted by Youngblood

Is just a day program and almost anyone can do it. Even at my age, I had more ring experience, and experience around the ring then more then 3/4s of the class lol. I didn't get it to be a coach per se, but more so that I can work the corner and we can travel now with as little as 3 people to shows, as it is cheaper for us to travel that way. Learned some stuff, but really, is more just so I can throw a towel over my shoulder and it be legit with amateur boxing rules.

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That's a scary thought, that anyone who possesses that piece of paper can become responsible for the lives and safety of anyone who's interested in taking up boxing. Of course, there must be people who go through it and know what they're doing, but I shudder when thinking about the rest of the people, and by your estimate is more than 75% of the class. :-\

Anyways, congratulations on getting the certification. You can learn a lot from being in the corner just to help out, and I'm sure it'll give you a unique perspective as well.

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Thanks.

The reason they have it is to make sure people know the rules and guidelines and I suppose promote safety. That is a step better then professional boxing where you don't even need formal training. But it is remarkably lax. And yea, a lot of the people were clueless. Most had never stepped in a ring. Is was surprising. That is first level certification, and you move thru the levels. To become a ref. and so on. They are making new rules currently, changing the system a bit as of Aug. 9th, but no idea what that'll be. Just know anything before that date is grandfathered and roles into higher levels unaffected.

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Originally Posted by iceman

i want to glean as much possible knowledge on boxing theory as i can, i feel i got a start, but that is just the beginning. i would hate to throw a fighter to the wolves or worse miss something or make a fighter worry about anything other than fighting.

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Always stick to the basics.. boxing is way too practical but the theory part of it keeps you from getting caught off guard. "Always Protect your self at all times"
"Move Your Head"..."Your Defense is your best Offense" "Go To the Bank"
.."Bob...Weave" all words said don't mean you are a boxer or will box.
All in All if you are not the boxer you can never know what really goes on in the boxers mind as soon as the bell rings"

i have boxed blac..and Daddi i know:) thanx for responding

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Originally Posted by iceman

oh no doubt. i forget sarcasm doesn't translate here i MEANT no disrespect was joking for Andre...but yeah i was hopeing on some book type reference on phisics of pure boxing and the science behind it...

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I know that bro. Sarcasm is one of my favorite hobbies too ;-) I never take offense.

I think the worse thing a trainer can do is to have a set way and expect every fighter to adapt to that way.

Aside from saftey,stretching and the other more set patterns in training (that all vary to suit the fighter): a great trainer should be able to see the gifts that each fighter brings naturally and will tune those gifts in and sharpen up those natural talents so they outweigh any inherent weakness.

great Andre, thanx and i agree, i have seen soo many trainers train each fighter the same way, i agree initially using a two hands up guard is a good idea, but for some later the philly shell may be useful or an archie moore type guard. i do think a lot of drills can be used for everyone to develop attributes but putting the attributes of any given boxer at the forefront is an art