Fedor v Rogers

I think so, well to be honest im not that clued up on all the fighters fedor has fought but watching a few of his bouts he clearly has trouble with good "strikers".

Rogers is a massive man but puts his punches together well something big men in mma seem unable to do, iv read he started out in boxing and believe that is what it will take to beat Fedor, hes unbeaten and hungry to prove a point, this will also be Fedors first time in a cage and apparently it could make a difference in the way he fights?

If Rogers catches Fedor clean from what iv seen of him he will keep the punches pouring in and I just dont see Fedor coping with it, he was being outfought by Arlovskis boxing till the twat jumped in the air and begged to be whacked;D

If Rogers is going to make it a fight he will have to show more than what I've seen so far. Mirko was widely considered the best pure striker in the business when he fought Fedor and was soundly beaten in all facets of the game. The only guy I've actually thought had a chance was Arlovski with his tremndous athleticism, power and technical striking. Then he jumped in the air :rolleyes:

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fedor loses by brutal kayo.

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;D

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i think you misread my post. I meant Fedor will win by brutal kayo.

It will take a very special fighter to beat Fedor. Rogers is not a special fighter. Strength alone is not enough. Speed alone is not enough. Size alone is not enough. A combination of these things most likely will not be enough. For a fighter to have a chance against Fedor...the athleticism is an obvious given. But more importantly...mental strength and intelligence is a must. We all know Fedor is a beast...strong, deceptively fast, great striking and ground skills, and a granite chin. But what separates him...is his ring intelligence and calmness. He NEVER panics. You might look decent against him for a bit...but he patiently adapts....and BOOM...it's over. So not only do you have to worry about his knockout power or his fantastic ground skills...you have to deal with his strong will and mind. Plus...he is humble and hardworking. You never get the sense this guy slacks off. He isn't into the hype or the hoopla. Why also do you think he will not get baited so easily by a clown like Daina White. The guy just loves to prepare and fight.

If mousasi doesn't go to the UFC after his 3 fight contract with Strikeforce look for him and Fedor in 2011 sometime. An epic fight if they both keep winning and it happens.

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the only advantage Rogers has over Fedor is a bit more power on the knuckle but that is it.

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Thats all he will need

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I really doubt so, he survived Cro Cop devastating attacks and survived, we don't know how, the suplex of the suplex from K Randelmannnn, Roger will need that, luck and God on his side to earn anything at all as Fedor beats him fair and square in every other aspects of the game.

Someone who can basicly just box well, throw proper punches, someone whos actually got balance and is aggressive and put punches together well would wipe the floor with %99 of mma, Rogers has a very good boxing technique, he is supposed to have good wrestling, kicks and take down defence as well but I think he wins with his punches alone.

If someone as sloppy as Liddell could make a career out of just punching in mma, Rogers deffinitly will and Fedor cant handle boxing, he needed Arlovski to jump in the air and give him his glass chin on a plate, that didnt prove Fedors power, just how stupid Arlovski is, Andre was having a very comfortable with Fedor up to that point using basic boxing, Rogers walked through Arlovski like he wasnt there;D

I think we have the makings of sig bet going on here.

Ross there is no shortage of MMA fighters with reasonable boxing experience.

Yosuke Nishijima - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This guy as you can see actually held some smaller cruiserweight belts and a decent record...5 MMA fights....5 Losses, 1 K1 fight.....1 K1 loss
Boxing is a part of MMA but great boxing does not equate to beating 99% of MMA fighters.

Well, shit boxing from Lidell kept him head and shoulders above a lot of second rate fighters like Ortiz and Silva, until someone with good boxing themsleves put him to sleep;D

Well thats one opinion. Boxing and MMA striking are apple and oranges. Being a great boxer does not in and of itself make one a great Striker and vice versa. You might as well be comparing a fast pitch softball pitcher and MLB pitcher. Same end result but completely different. Chuck much like Hughes, Tito, Coleman and others didn't continue to evolve as a fighter and he got old. His chin isn't as solid, his timing and reflexes are not as quick but more importantly he has simply been figured out. Rashad/Rampage/Shogun all pressed him but waited for him to throw first then countered. Chuck fights pretty well moving backwards but only as a counterpuncher. In his prime he is an MMA ATG and his resume of beaten foes speaks for its self. and Wanderlie as second rate? Seriously maybe you should check out some Pride footage. So do we have a sig bet? If Rogers doesn't KO Fedor I pick your sig for a month and vice versa.

That will be my prize for being right:( I was hoping there were going to be some big odds in this fight, seeing as though Fedor should be an overwhelming favourite, I wanted to put some cash on but only if its worth it, I think Rogers is like 5 to 1 which wont make me a fortune, I was hoping like 20 to 1 and up;D

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Well, shit boxing from Lidell kept him head and shoulders above a lot of second rate fighters like Ortiz and Silva, until someone with good boxing themsleves put him to sleep;D

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That is just one example. In most cases people who come into mma fights with one skill end up loosing to the more experienced fighters with many skills.

Rogers probably won't land one punch on Fedor. I'm calling it now... Fedor lands a huge left hand to start things out and drops Rogers, this is followed by Fedor grabbing an arm and taking it home. Fedor by armbar submission round #1. I'm calling it!

I wouldn't say that Lidell only had one skill. He had the ability to stuff most take downs and was able to get right back to his feet when he was taken down.
I don't think excellent boxing skills would do you much good if you can't keep the fight standing. With that being said, I think a good boxer with good take down defense could go along ways in MMA. The key being able to dictate if the fight remains standing or not.