Kevin Rooney would be the perfect trainer to improve his defense for his style. he should be in catskill training with kevin rooney
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Kevin Rooney would be the perfect trainer to improve his defense for his style. he should be in catskill training with kevin rooney
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Originally Posted by Stander
You obviously haven't read the Kevin Rooney is a moron thread ! We are trying to avoid seeing Ricky knocked out again, even if it is through one one Rooney's attacks of verbal diarrhoea which could induce a coma on the strongest person:rolleyes:
Kevin Rooney? Or you mean Teddy Atlas?Quote:
Originally Posted by jamiebhoyQuote:
Originally Posted by Stander
You obviously haven't read the Kevin Rooney is a moron thread ! We are trying to avoid seeing Ricky knocked out again, even if it is through one one Rooney's attacks of verbal diarrhoea which could induce a coma on the strongest person:rolleyes:
My Bad, I meant Atlas, but you'll see what I meant , still have his voice in my head from a fight I watched last week. Sorry to kevin rooney, I'm sure he's a nice guy ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogKevin Rooney? Or you mean Teddy Atlas?Quote:
Originally Posted by jamiebhoyQuote:
Originally Posted by Stander
You obviously haven't read the Kevin Rooney is a moron thread ! We are trying to avoid seeing Ricky knocked out again, even if it is through one one Rooney's attacks of verbal diarrhoea which could induce a coma on the strongest person:rolleyes:
IMO, Hatton is a great brawler and if he went back to the Hatton of old instead of thinking a boxers style is better for him than what go him to the top of his game, he'd be back on top of his game. He lost to Mayweather and Pacquiao because he got careless.
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Originally Posted by fan johnny
Sorry i don't get this one, he went back to the Hatton of old and thought he could walk through Pac man and got taken. Going into the fight he said he had a new gameplan but simply resported back to the norm. Being a brawler has been his undoing in the big time.
Back when all he was doing was brawling some folks were saying how he had real boxing skills and had used them in the past ...then he planned to start using them again, but it didn't ever work. let's just face it. Hatton's got lots of heart and energy but has never been and will never be a complete fighter. Not to dis him. Nice guy, glad he's a boxer - he's been good for the sport. Just not great. :)
He may have lost to Pac because of a bad game plan, but he lost to Floyd because he didn't have anything but a puncher's prayer against him.
Hard to believe he beat Kostya. That's the only puzzling thing. He beat Kostya. Incredible. But he did it.
Hmmm.
This isn't directed at anyone in particular, but Hatton did not lose to Pacquiao because of his gameplan. I've seen a couple of people saying this and it simply is not ture. He lost because he is an inferior fighter. There's no shame in that, but implying that he lost because of the way he approached the fight is absurd and it takes away from the magnitude of Pacquaio's victory. If Hatton had come out boxing and moving, he still would have got knocked out.
I agree somewhat. Except he didn't train as the Hatton of old. He didn't defend himself, he lacked respect for Pacquaio's power (went with his heart), and more importantly didn't think about what he was doing related to his game plan. (although a conditioned reflex means he should have to think) His new training was something that didn't come as natural for him and when his adrenaline kicked in, his preparations went out the window. He psyched himself out and wasn't ready to step into the ring as the new Hatton. Because he didn't train as the Hatton of old he wasn't ready to step into the ring as the old Hatton either. While we saw the Hatton brawler, it wasn't a prepared confident Hatton brawler. If the idiot watched his own fights instead of feeling sorry for himself he might learn from his mistakes. But he's apparently got this stupid idea in his head that his style is not good enough to beat Mayweather' I believe this is why he hired Mayweather Sr. It just seems rather obvious to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamiebhoyQuote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
Sorry i don't get this one, he went back to the Hatton of old and thought he could walk through Pac man and got taken. Going into the fight he said he had a new gameplan but simply resported back to the norm. Being a brawler has been his undoing in the big time.
How did David Diaz get so far with Pacquiao and Hatton didn't? He kept his guard up. Is Diaz that much better a fighter than Hatton? If he is then maybe your right and Hatton is just a club flghter, but I really don't believe a fighter can go 43-0 and not be a great fighter.
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Originally Posted by CFH
I agree with what you are saying and I was one who blamed his gameplan. I personally should have said it ended in the fashion and time it did because of his gameplan. I think that the overall result would have been the same in hindsight but rushing in all balls to the wall just brought the end a lot earlier than if he had tried to be smart.
I gave Pac props at the time and think he is a great fighter but also think Ricky did himself no favours and made Pac look even better on the night.
Remember Hatton had Kostya using his balls as earrings in that fight!Quote:
Originally Posted by NuthaPug
kostya is overrated. that style would've never lasted him past his physical prime.
True. But Kostya didn't blame his loss on that, so I guess I won't either.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
And what style is that? Knocking most of his opponents out? A 13 Year Professional career with just 2 losses, and a World Champion for 10 years? If KT is overrated then Ricky Hatton is a walking advert for skinny milk?Quote:
Originally Posted by jokaleras
Kostya is/was not overrated. If anything he is underrated.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE THIRD MANAnd what style is that? Knocking most of his opponents out? A 13 Year Professional career with just 2 losses, and a World Champion for 10 years? If KT is overrated then Ricky Hatton is a walking advert for skinny milk?Quote:
Originally Posted by jokaleras