Re: Vargas coming out of retirement?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o67-D1BKJuk
Look how big he is here:p
Listen to him too, he don't wanna take anymore punches he is punch drunk. It was a huge shame he was rushed but he still fought his heart out no matter who he faced.
Re: Vargas coming out of retirement?
When someone states "I would rather swallow my own blood and die in the ring than quit".
That should tell you two things about the fighter:
He wont be thinking about timing and angles as much as he will be intent on coming forward and fighting with his heart to test yours out.
Thats not a good quality to have as the no 1 for a comeback plan if yor not 100 % fit.
If he tries a comeback, he is going to have to be much more mentally measured and know his limits than he was originally.
Re: Vargas coming out of retirement?
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Kel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o67-D1BKJuk
Look how big he is here:p
Listen to him too, he don't wanna take anymore punches he is punch drunk. It was a huge shame he was rushed but he still fought his heart out no matter who he faced.
I agree with you on everything except him being punch-drunk. He was in a major movie not long ago, in which he was pretty good, & I've seen other recent interviews where he talks pretty clearly. I think this is more of a one-off interview where he's a bit inarticulate rather than evidence he's punch drunk.
Vargas does serve as Exhibit A though every time that we talk about a fighter being rushed. Not everyone can be a Tszyu or De La Hoya & be ready for world titles & the opposition that brings by their 15 pro bout
Re: Vargas coming out of retirement?
I hope he doesn't have the Holyfield's disease too, There is enough peoples risking to get hurt around without jumping in the bag, too.
Re: Vargas coming out of retirement?
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JazMerkin
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Originally Posted by
Kel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o67-D1BKJuk
Look how big he is here:p
Listen to him too, he don't wanna take anymore punches he is punch drunk. It was a huge shame he was rushed but he still fought his heart out no matter who he faced.
I agree with you on everything except him being punch-drunk. He was in a major movie not long ago, in which he was pretty good, & I've seen other recent interviews where he talks pretty clearly. I think this is more of a one-off interview where he's a bit inarticulate rather than evidence he's punch drunk.
Vargas does serve as Exhibit A though every time that we talk about a fighter being rushed. Not everyone can be a Tszyu or De La Hoya & be ready for world titles & the opposition that brings by their 15 pro bout
Vargas sounds completely punch drunk, almost on a par with James Toney. The film he made, Alpha Dog was filmed around 3 years ago, and he did sound fine then but now he doesnt. Not only is his speech incoherent and slurred, he also has the blank/confused facial expression shown by fighters who have taken a few too many.
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Man I didn't know he was slurring that bad. Yeah his speech is pretty incoherent. He reminds me of Meldrick Taylor in that interview on HBO's legendary nights.
Re: Vargas coming out of retirement?
IM going to be real naive and wishful here... I hope he's just congested or something, maybe getting over a cold :-\
Re: Vargas coming out of retirement?
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generalbulldog
Man I didn't know he was slurring that bad. Yeah his speech is pretty incoherent. He reminds me of Meldrick Taylor in that interview on HBO's legendary nights.
not even close to the degree of Taylor....
They actually needed subtitiles for one portion of the Taylor interview if I remember correctly
Re: Vargas coming out of retirement?
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Spicoli
Bad,bad.......Fred sanford aweful.Love ya Vargas but NO *Vargas vs Hatton* vacant IHOP cruiserweight strap :cwm13:
make this fight!:feedme:
Here's what that fight would look like.
Guess which one is Hatton. ;)
http://i27.tinypic.com/1zcmkbd.gif
;D
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Diane
haha o look, it is Marlon Wright doing the count 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,7,7,8,8,8,8,999999999...
Re: Vargas coming out of retirement?
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Youngblood
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Diane
haha o look, it is Marlon Wright doing the count 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,7,7,8,8,8,8,999999999...
Yeah, but he didn't stop his count to yell at the other guy to get into his corner. ;D
Re: Vargas coming out of retirement?
Anyone who gets beat by Mayorga like he did needs to stay home. What does he weigh now like 275? Some fighters just dont know when to quit.
Re: Vargas coming out of retirement?
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Originally Posted by
Diane
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
Bad,bad.......Fred sanford aweful.Love ya Vargas but NO *Vargas vs Hatton* vacant IHOP cruiserweight strap :cwm13:
make this fight!:feedme:
Here's what that fight would look like.
Guess which one is Hatton. ;)
http://i27.tinypic.com/1zcmkbd.gif
;D
:lolhaha: totally missed that one. Norman has that Hatton prone posture down to a tee;D
Re: Vargas coming out of retirement?
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
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Originally Posted by
Diane
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Spicoli
Bad,bad.......Fred sanford aweful.Love ya Vargas but NO *Vargas vs Hatton* vacant IHOP cruiserweight strap :cwm13:
make this fight!:feedme:
Here's what that fight would look like.
Guess which one is Hatton. ;)
http://i27.tinypic.com/1zcmkbd.gif
;D
:lolhaha: totally missed that one. Norman has that Hatton prone posture down to a tee;D
And I'm sure where Chubbys-Ubbsy is spinning, is probably what Hatton was feeling right afterwards as well. :stars:
Re: Vargas coming out of retirement?
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
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Originally Posted by
Kel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o67-D1BKJuk
Look how big he is here:p
Listen to him too, he don't wanna take anymore punches he is punch drunk. It was a huge shame he was rushed but he still fought his heart out no matter who he faced.
I agree with you on everything except him being punch-drunk. He was in a major movie not long ago, in which he was pretty good, & I've seen other recent interviews where he talks pretty clearly. I think this is more of a one-off interview where he's a bit inarticulate rather than evidence he's punch drunk.
Vargas does serve as Exhibit A though every time that we talk about a fighter being rushed. Not everyone can be a Tszyu or De La Hoya & be ready for world titles & the opposition that brings by their 15 pro bout
I've heard him in other interviews as well. And he sounded fine to me. I don't think Vargas is punch drunk. I think he was actually drunk. Or buzzing pretty damn good.