I think its a lot more likely that Floyd is doing drugs.
He a bit part player that wants to be the star of the show.:p
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I think its a lot more likely that Floyd is doing drugs.
He a bit part player that wants to be the star of the show.:p
They know that if PBF wins saturday that Manny is in the future,,,,,Might as well do all they can to discredit Manny winning or giving PBF the fight of his life now......:-\
PBF will not face Pac. Maybe at ~154, but no way anywhere near his natural weight.
To be honest I don't think Pac has any interest in facing floyd. Sadly, Arum is right about a couple things.. Floyd fights are just not entertaining. Pac can prove so much more than Floyd. There are actualy "threats" in the LWW adn WW limit.
Everyone is stuck looking at one thing... Floyd is undefeated. That, by no means makes him the best fighter in the world. Shane Mosley, Cotto, Berto, would all whoop that butt.
Well, this is not even a case. Going by the interview Floyd Sr. didn't say Pac was on steroids. He said he "thinks" Pac is on some kind of supplement. Supplements aren't steroids. And as far as the steroid comment Floyd Sr. said even if Pac is on steroids... So that is not even accusing Pac of being on steroids. He just said even if Pac is on steroids he couldn't beat PBF. I think people are getting too Pac crazed nowadays. Many athletes have been accused of being on steroids and reason being is because many athletes are on steroids and it is no surprise if any athlete out there is on steroids in this day and age. Elite stars of boxing like Evander Holyfield, Roy Jones Jr., Fernando Vargas, James Toney, Shane Mosley and the list goes on have damning steroid evidence against them. Pac and PBF both could be on steroids and it should surprise no one. I personally know many amateur athletes on some kind of steroid. Whether people want to be naive or not steroids are rampant in sports. Athletes do many things to get that next edge. So the insinuations or outright accusations are going to be out there.
In this Maywether Sr's video it was edited and made clear his implication of Pacquiao being on Steroids (what ever you want to call it, he just danced around saying it straight out.) He went so far with his implication as to provide his expert opinion of someone's actions when their on it and "you know what that's about" (but I can't say it statement), adding a description of Pacquiao's aggression as a fighter being a result of "Roids" If it were not for the edited video, he would be in Law suit territory but because of the way it is edited Mayweather Sr. can claim his statements were taken out of context. I wouldn't be surprised if the video was reviewed by his Lawyers before it was ok'd for release.Quote:
Originally Posted by blegit
He continues to loose respect in the boxing world.
(Now if the full video made the Internet....?)
He could be on them a lot of fighters could but 1 thing i will say is Pac went from P4P#2 to number 1 because Floyd retired but now Floyds back so if he wants to prove he deserves his number 1 spot fight the man who was the number 1. Lets put the differences aside for a minute and if they both come through there fights just get it on for the fans.
Bah, that's just another Mayweather's antics among the many already existing, :bobby::policeman: there is nothing to see here, carry on.
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
Floyd Mayweather Sr isn't as stupid as he sounds...and it wouldn't surprise me one bit either but as others have said, you can have your opinions but can't go pointing fingers without proof.
All I'll say is that it is hard jump from 105 to 140lbs of PURE muscle - If you guys can imagine 35lbs of pure muscle, it's a shocking amount. Imagine what 35lbs of chicken breasts or steaks would look like.
Couple that with the fact that Pacquaio's training schedule would never allow him to put on significant size due to the amount of calories he must be burning in training for a fight. It's just not really going to happen.
I can understand him filling out slightly since he began but not to the tune of 35lbs of extra muscle.
But hey, I may be wrong and he might be a genetic superfreak because I'd certainly never like to accuse anybody ;)
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Originally Posted by generalbulldogOf course it wouldn't be a surprise of anyone in the sports world doing it, but there is something called baseless accusations.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
He probably wouldn't have had to have gained 35lb of pure muscle mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzThank you!Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Floyd Mayweather Sr isn't as stupid as he sounds...and it wouldn't surprise me one bit either but as others have said, you can have your opinions but can't go pointing fingers without proof.
All I'll say is that it is hard jump from 105 to 140lbs of PURE muscle - If you guys can imagine 35lbs of pure muscle, it's a shocking amount. Imagine what 35lbs of chicken breasts or steaks would look like.
Couple that with the fact that Pacquaio's training schedule would never allow him to put on significant size due to the amount of calories he must be burning in training for a fight. It's just not really going to happen.
I can understand him filling out slightly since he began but not to the tune of 35lbs of extra muscle.
But hey, I may be wrong and he might be a genetic superfreak because I'd certainly never like to accuse anybody ;)
He's obviously but a lot of it on but some of the 'weight' he's moved up will just be from the fact that he doesn't have to dehydrate give or take about 10lb of fluids and sugars out of his body for the weigh in. :)
But yeah, like you said his training volume + his weight gain mean his body is definetly a very anabolic enviroment, and like you said this doesn't have to be from steroids. Though it wouldn't be surprising either.
What makes more sense for a fighter to be on Steroids?
A fighter coming from environment in the streets of Manila or a fighter who's Olympic environment is exposed to designer drugs where the competition is scored in the 1/1000 of a second.
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
All I'll say is that it is hard jump from 105 to 140lbs of PURE muscle - If you guys can imagine 35lbs of pure muscle, it's a shocking amount. Imagine what 35lbs of chicken breasts or steaks would look like.
a mans average weight at 5'6" tall is 140lbs. and as we become older we tend to gain weight. he is actually going to fight cotto over his optimal boxing weight.
we cant base roids use on pacs weight...
whats amazing about boxers though is that they often fight at a much much lower weight that they are suppose to.
see chart:
http://www.halls.md/on/MenWeightOther.gif
between 20 to 30 yrs old we jump up in weight, the diff with pac and other fighters of the same height is that pac cant take off the weight to fight at lower weights anymore. the way he fights he uses alot of energy and we already saw what happened to pac when he fought at a weight that is not suitable for him.
plus here in the philippines roids or any performance enhancing drugs are pretty uncommon. he fights with that same energy from the day he started till now. so what makes sr. think that pac uses it?
Sr. sells his flimsy opinions as cold facts. This is irresponsible and reprehensible.
Every now and then though, there still are buyers and takers of these opinions, as Sr. with a practised ease, can really still be very convincing to the uninitiated. That is surprising, as his statements have bombed over and over again.
That he can still find listeners to his outrageous statements, is a testament to the world still at wide and have not acquired the smarts yet for its doors to close on jesters, clowns, village idiots, and the like.
So Pac still lives on the streets in Manila does he? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
Sr. is a respected and an accomplished trainer in the game (despite his mouth) and tends to be in the limelight in the boxing world from training guys like Hatton, Oscar, and his son he should be a little more careful with these kind of accusations.
These accusations from a trainer of this caliber would be like Pat Riley accusing Lebron James of being on steroids or Bill Parcells accusing Tom Brady of being juiced and that their accomplishments are the result of it.
I'm no Pac fan and thinks that he got some guys at the right time, but I wouldn't stoop this low and I'm just a fight fan not an accomplished trainer with the credentials of Sr.