Re: whats juans best chance of victory tommorow night?
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JT Rock
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Pacdbest2
JMM is almost as skilled as PBF. PBF is just a little faster & Quicker. But the power advantage belongs to JMM. PBF really didn't show he has the Power at Higher weights. He did KO hatton but Pac showed how easy it is to Ko Hatton. He TKO Gatti but Alfonso Gomez did it too. Cotto Destroy Judah but Judah survived 12 rds with PBF.
You think PBF could've Koed Casa & Juan at 135??? I don't think so!!!
PBF main advantage is speed. But JMM already dealt with it with Pac & Diaz and showed he has an antidote for it. What JMM can't deal is slickness which PBF greatest attributes. If JMM can't find PBF, it will result in a boring fight. But If PBF lost a step then this will be a tactical & Competitive fight.
I can see the 1st 4 rds as a warm up & will very tactical with PBF winning 3-1. Around the middle rd, I can see JMM landing some Precision overhand right & uppercuts. PBF will be effecive with Lead Right & Jab. JMM will take most of the Middle rds. PBF will switch to hit & run the rest of the fight & will win a Split Decision on the cards. JMM will cry robbery but will eventually get his third fight with Pac after Pac Koes PBF & JMM unify 140 lbs Class.
Could you be anymore full of shit?
HAve you seen Floyd at 130-135??? did you see how he annilated Chavez, Corrales etc..
1) Casa is shot to pieces
2) Malignaggi just boxed circles around Diaz and got screwed
3) Floyd ruined hatton before Pac got to him
4)Gatti got absolutely destroyed by Floyd at 140 and then fought Gomez at 147, you know the same Gomez who has fought at Middleweight before
There is no skill or attribute JMM has that Floyd isint better at
You really dont know your ass from a hole in the ground pal.. Stick to what you know best, and thats inspecting Pac's dirty underwear
Corrales was a Good action Fighter but he's chinny. Chavez was still standing when it was stopped by the cornerman & he's no JMM.
I didn't say He cannot beat Juan Diaz. I said He can't Ko Diaz like JMM did.
Gatti Koed by DLH too at below 147. Pac TKO DLH at 147. JMM still standing against Pac after 24 rds. JMM will be tougher than Chavez & Chico for sure!!!
You're full of excuses. I'm not even picking JMM.
Re: whats juans best chance of victory tommorow night?
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
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Originally Posted by
JT Rock
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
JMM is almost as skilled as PBF. PBF is just a little faster & Quicker. But the power advantage belongs to JMM. PBF really didn't show he has the Power at Higher weights. He did KO hatton but Pac showed how easy it is to Ko Hatton. He TKO Gatti but Alfonso Gomez did it too. Cotto Destroy Judah but Judah survived 12 rds with PBF.
You think PBF could've Koed Casa & Juan at 135??? I don't think so!!!
PBF main advantage is speed. But JMM already dealt with it with Pac & Diaz and showed he has an antidote for it. What JMM can't deal is slickness which PBF greatest attributes. If JMM can't find PBF, it will result in a boring fight. But If PBF lost a step then this will be a tactical & Competitive fight.
I can see the 1st 4 rds as a warm up & will very tactical with PBF winning 3-1. Around the middle rd, I can see JMM landing some Precision overhand right & uppercuts. PBF will be effecive with Lead Right & Jab. JMM will take most of the Middle rds. PBF will switch to hit & run the rest of the fight & will win a Split Decision on the cards. JMM will cry robbery but will eventually get his third fight with Pac after Pac Koes PBF & JMM unify 140 lbs Class.
Could you be anymore full of shit?
HAve you seen Floyd at 130-135??? did you see how he annilated Chavez, Corrales etc..
1) Casa is shot to pieces
2) Malignaggi just boxed circles around Diaz and got screwed
3) Floyd ruined hatton before Pac got to him
4)Gatti got absolutely destroyed by Floyd at 140 and then fought Gomez at 147, you know the same Gomez who has fought at Middleweight before
There is no skill or attribute JMM has that Floyd isint better at
You really dont know your ass from a hole in the ground pal.. Stick to what you know best, and thats inspecting Pac's dirty underwear
Corrales was a Good action Fighter but he's chinny. Chavez was still standing when it was stopped by the cornerman & he's no JMM.
I didn't say He cannot beat Juan Diaz. I said He can't Ko Diaz like JMM did.
Gatti Koed by DLH too at below 147. Pac TKO DLH at 147. JMM still standing against Pac after 24 rds. JMM will be tougher than Chavez & Chico for sure!!!
You're full of excuses. I'm not even picking JMM.
Id be pretty confident Mayweather stops Diaz and Old cassamayor at 135.
Re: whats juans best chance of victory tommorow night?
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
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Originally Posted by
JT Rock
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
JMM is almost as skilled as PBF. PBF is just a little faster & Quicker. But the power advantage belongs to JMM. PBF really didn't show he has the Power at Higher weights. He did KO hatton but Pac showed how easy it is to Ko Hatton. He TKO Gatti but Alfonso Gomez did it too. Cotto Destroy Judah but Judah survived 12 rds with PBF.
You think PBF could've Koed Casa & Juan at 135??? I don't think so!!!
PBF main advantage is speed. But JMM already dealt with it with Pac & Diaz and showed he has an antidote for it. What JMM can't deal is slickness which PBF greatest attributes. If JMM can't find PBF, it will result in a boring fight. But If PBF lost a step then this will be a tactical & Competitive fight.
I can see the 1st 4 rds as a warm up & will very tactical with PBF winning 3-1. Around the middle rd, I can see JMM landing some Precision overhand right & uppercuts. PBF will be effecive with Lead Right & Jab. JMM will take most of the Middle rds. PBF will switch to hit & run the rest of the fight & will win a Split Decision on the cards. JMM will cry robbery but will eventually get his third fight with Pac after Pac Koes PBF & JMM unify 140 lbs Class.
Could you be anymore full of shit?
HAve you seen Floyd at 130-135??? did you see how he annilated Chavez, Corrales etc..
1) Casa is shot to pieces
2) Malignaggi just boxed circles around Diaz and got screwed
3) Floyd ruined hatton before Pac got to him
4)Gatti got absolutely destroyed by Floyd at 140 and then fought Gomez at 147, you know the same Gomez who has fought at Middleweight before
There is no skill or attribute JMM has that Floyd isint better at
You really dont know your ass from a hole in the ground pal.. Stick to what you know best, and thats inspecting Pac's dirty underwear
Corrales was a Good action Fighter but he's chinny. Chavez was still standing when it was stopped by the cornerman & he's no JMM.
I didn't say He cannot beat Juan Diaz. I said He can't Ko Diaz like JMM did.
Gatti Koed by DLH too at below 147. Pac TKO DLH at 147. JMM still standing against Pac after 24 rds. JMM will be tougher than Chavez & Chico for sure!!!
You're full of excuses. I'm not even picking JMM.
What excuses? Those are the facts Jack, Casa was shot to pieces grandpa cant even get in the ring because of a bad back. Juan Diaz would have been broken up pretty bad by Floyd too
Re: whats juans best chance of victory tommorow night?
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skel1983
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
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Originally Posted by
JT Rock
Could you be anymore full of shit?
HAve you seen Floyd at 130-135??? did you see how he annilated Chavez, Corrales etc..
1) Casa is shot to pieces
2) Malignaggi just boxed circles around Diaz and got screwed
3) Floyd ruined hatton before Pac got to him
4)Gatti got absolutely destroyed by Floyd at 140 and then fought Gomez at 147, you know the same Gomez who has fought at Middleweight before
There is no skill or attribute JMM has that Floyd isint better at
You really dont know your ass from a hole in the ground pal.. Stick to what you know best, and thats inspecting Pac's dirty underwear
Corrales was a Good action Fighter but he's chinny. Chavez was still standing when it was stopped by the cornerman & he's no JMM.
I didn't say He cannot beat Juan Diaz. I said He can't Ko Diaz like JMM did.
Gatti Koed by DLH too at below 147. Pac TKO DLH at 147. JMM still standing against Pac after 24 rds. JMM will be tougher than Chavez & Chico for sure!!!
You're full of excuses. I'm not even picking JMM.
Id be pretty confident Mayweather stops Diaz and Old cassamayor at 135.
I want proof not your confident opinion!! You think PBF stops JMM???
Re: whats juans best chance of victory tommorow night?
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Pacdbest2
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skel1983
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Pacdbest2
Corrales was a Good action Fighter but he's chinny. Chavez was still standing when it was stopped by the cornerman & he's no JMM.
I didn't say He cannot beat Juan Diaz. I said He can't Ko Diaz like JMM did.
Gatti Koed by DLH too at below 147. Pac TKO DLH at 147. JMM still standing against Pac after 24 rds. JMM will be tougher than Chavez & Chico for sure!!!
You're full of excuses. I'm not even picking JMM.
Id be pretty confident Mayweather stops Diaz and Old cassamayor at 135.
I want proof not your confident opinion!! You think PBF stops JMM???
I think there is a strong possibility, I have gone for tko Maywather 9th round.
Re: whats juans best chance of victory tommorow night?
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Pacdbest2
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skel1983
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Pacdbest2
Corrales was a Good action Fighter but he's chinny. Chavez was still standing when it was stopped by the cornerman & he's no JMM.
I didn't say He cannot beat Juan Diaz. I said He can't Ko Diaz like JMM did.
Gatti Koed by DLH too at below 147. Pac TKO DLH at 147. JMM still standing against Pac after 24 rds. JMM will be tougher than Chavez & Chico for sure!!!
You're full of excuses. I'm not even picking JMM.
Id be pretty confident Mayweather stops Diaz and Old cassamayor at 135.
I want proof not your confident opinion!! You think PBF stops JMM???
Since I dont have a crystal ball all anyone can do is offer confident opinion. I think most of you Pac fans have your head shoved so far up his ass that you forget their are other great fighters exist. Remember who was PFP#1 before he retired FLOYD MAYWEATHER! Manny Pacquiao became #1 by default
So yes my opinion and prediction is Marquez gets stopped late
Re: whats juans best chance of victory tommorow night?
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Originally Posted by
JT Rock
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
Id be pretty confident Mayweather stops Diaz and Old cassamayor at 135.
I want proof not your confident opinion!! You think PBF stops JMM???
Since I dont have a crystal ball all anyone can do is offer confident opinion. I think most of you Pac fans have your head shoved so far up his ass that you forget their are other great fighters exist. Remember who was PFP#1 before he retired FLOYD MAYWEATHER! Manny Pacquiao became #1 by default
So yes my opinion and prediction is Marquez gets stopped late
You don't have the crystal ball coz I have it!!!
Re: whats juans best chance of victory tommorow night?
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Pacdbest2
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Originally Posted by
JT Rock
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
I want proof not your confident opinion!! You think PBF stops JMM???
Since I dont have a crystal ball all anyone can do is offer confident opinion. I think most of you Pac fans have your head shoved so far up his ass that you forget their are other great fighters exist. Remember who was PFP#1 before he retired FLOYD MAYWEATHER! Manny Pacquiao became #1 by default
So yes my opinion and prediction is Marquez gets stopped late
You don't have Pac's balls coz I have them!!!
Fixed it for you;);D
Re: whats juans best chance of victory tommorow night?
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Originally Posted by
JT Rock
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
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Originally Posted by
JT Rock
Since I dont have a crystal ball all anyone can do is offer confident opinion. I think most of you Pac fans have your head shoved so far up his ass that you forget their are other great fighters exist. Remember who was PFP#1 before he retired FLOYD MAYWEATHER! Manny Pacquiao became #1 by default
So yes my opinion and prediction is Marquez gets stopped late
You don't have Pac's balls coz I have them!!!
Fixed it for you;);D
looooooool
Re: whats juans best chance of victory tommorow night?
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Originally Posted by
JT Rock
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
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Originally Posted by
JT Rock
Since I dont have a crystal ball all anyone can do is offer confident opinion. I think most of you Pac fans have your head shoved so far up his ass that you forget their are other great fighters exist. Remember who was PFP#1 before he retired FLOYD MAYWEATHER! Manny Pacquiao became #1 by default
So yes my opinion and prediction is Marquez gets stopped late
You don't have Pac's balls coz I have them!!!
Fixed it for you;);D
haha :owned:
Re: whats juans best chance of victory tommorow night?
Marquez's best chance is to set the pace but not get greedy. I've always maintained that too many of floyds opponents either try to box with him or swarm him. Floyds a fighter thats great defensively and when he gets going, good and accurate offensively. Its in the transitions that he's vunerable.
Constantly swarm him and he'll never come out of his shell and roll his shoulders, clinch and potshot Marquez because he got greedy and overstayed his welcome in the pocket. If JMM lays back too much and tries to box, Floyd will start to pick at him with his speed and slip out before Marquez can counter. If JMM pressures him wisely and engages him intermittenly, Floyd will cover up at first, allowing Marquez to get the points and when Marquez steps away instead of taking the bait, Floyd will have to come after him to get those points back. He'll have to come out his comfort zone for that against a game fighter that can counter punch. Thats Marquez's best chance of landing heavy leather and making it Floyds choice to slip away from the counters and leave the points with marquez or to man up and go to war with a someone whos used to fighting that way. Just my opinion, of course.
Re: whats juans best chance of victory tommorow night?
Stick that jab in his face! I think Marquez' jab is what can win him this fight, throwing that straight right in there every now and then. No loopy punches, keep them straight down the pipe. Marquez may be able to "wow" the judges by throwing his combinations from different angles if he gets Mayweather on the ropes but I don't think those types of punches connect on Floyd. Like I said before, straight shots are his best bet.
For some reason, I think Mayweather is going to come out blazing tomorrow. Very much like he did against Gatti. The fight was supposed to be a catch weight but Floyd weighed in one pound under the welterweight limit. I see Floyd using his size advantage and looking for a knockout.
Re: whats juans best chance of victory tommorow night?
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C-Lo
Stick that jab in his face! I think Marquez' jab is what can win him this fight, throwing that straight right in there every now and then. No loopy punches, keep them straight down the pipe. Marquez may be able to "wow" the judges by throwing his combinations from different angles if he gets Mayweather on the ropes but I don't think those types of punches connect on Floyd. Like I said before, straight shots are his best bet.
For some reason, I think Mayweather is going to come out blazing tomorrow. Very much like he did against Gatti. The fight was supposed to be a catch weight but Floyd weighed in one pound under the welterweight limit. I see Floyd using his size advantage and looking for a knockout.
very good assesment if you ask me
only time ive genuinely seen mayweather bothered and unable to counter an opponent was the 1st castillo fight when he constantly landed straight shots that went through floyds guard.
It ensures you protection as long as the jabbing hand is face up and your able to sideduck any potential counters.
Re: whats juans best chance of victory tommorow night?
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hattonthehammer
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C-Lo
Stick that jab in his face! I think Marquez' jab is what can win him this fight, throwing that straight right in there every now and then. No loopy punches, keep them straight down the pipe. Marquez may be able to "wow" the judges by throwing his combinations from different angles if he gets Mayweather on the ropes but I don't think those types of punches connect on Floyd. Like I said before, straight shots are his best bet.
For some reason, I think Mayweather is going to come out blazing tomorrow. Very much like he did against Gatti. The fight was supposed to be a catch weight but Floyd weighed in one pound under the welterweight limit. I see Floyd using his size advantage and looking for a knockout.
very good assesment if you ask me
only time ive genuinely seen mayweather bothered and unable to counter an opponent was
the 1st castillo fight when he constantly landed straight shots that went through floyds guard.
It ensures you protection as long as the jabbing hand is face up and your able to sideduck any potential counters.
Thats the blueprint that Juan must follow for tonights fight.
He can duplicate what Castillo did that night. What he lacks in size he makes up for in class but Floyd has so many advantages that it would have to be a perfect gameplan from Marquez and thats a big ask.
He fought two good fights vs Pac and Barrera but two lapses in concentration saw him floored in those fights. For a guy who lost to Norwood and Chris John, I cant see him winning here unless Floyd turns up the worst he has ever been
Tactically Juan has to work the jab like Oscar. Keep Floyd guessing and whatever he does he cant stay in punching range without throwing like Gatti did. If he does all this he could take a decision but the likely outcome is Floyd on points.
Re: whats juans best chance of victory tommorow night?
Simple, JMM just have to be tough and smart. He can either pressure Floyd all night (which is what Floyd wants) and try to drain Floyd of energy or get Floyd to come to him (which Floyd doesn't want to do but he'll accomodate JMM) and try and counter the counterpuncher.
I think the best way JMM can take it to Floyd is to do both and try to mix Floyd up. JMM needs to lay back early, add pressure later on in the round and maybe try to draw Floyd into some exchanges which JMM can hopefully get the best of him.
If there are no exchanges then it's going to be a long night for JMM. The good news is JMM can throw pretty much every punch in the book, he's got a right right cross, great uppercut, and he's got a decent hook.
