Do you tip?

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Originally Posted by armin

I graduated college recently but am still serving while looking for a career. People that don't tip drive me nuts, esepcially the people that come in and get a kick out of treating you like jack and being inconsiderate and rude and then leaving something like a buck on 50$, makes me wana choke em. Due to some jacked up and outdated laws servers still only make 2.14 an hour, half of what original minimum wage used to be, minimum wage has since gone up to like 7+ and server wage has stayed the same. As long as there is no laws in place restaurants will just continue to pay servers 2.14 an hour and servers will be dependent on tips, which has been really shitty over the last year tip income has gone down considerably due to the economy. In case anyone is wondering 18-20% is a good tip, 15% is ok and anything below that is garabage since most waiters have to tip out about 5% of their tips to bussers, bar, front desk and such. Ok that's my rant sorry to bore. To answer the question I always tip 30% min

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$2.14 an hour is criminal and I cannot understand how they can get away with that. You are willing to get angry at the customer, but at the end of the day it is the industry and lack of regulation that allows your boss to get away with not giving you a fair minimum living wage. That's where the money should be coming from. If I ever went to America, knowing how they treat waiters I would certainly tip. I feel less obliged in the UK where workers definitely earn more than that, but still in that industry they are probably not having their earnings declared by their bosses and the money is still mediocre. I would feel obliged to tip. But I would still have my thinking of "Why should I tip here when other cultures don't have this system and function just fine without it?".

There are some interesting comments about tipping here if anyone is interested. Personally, I find it quite a fascinating area.

If employers pay their waiters/waitresses a wage to provide services to customers, why is it customary (and expected) to tip? | Notes and Queries | guardian.co.uk

Oh trust me I get mad at my boss more than any guests, he treats us like garbage, even though we're consistently the top restaurant in secret shoper surveys in our company. They did away with a few positions like expediter and such because supposedly the company wasn't doing well enough financially, yet a month after this they sent his ass on a 3 week cruise on the french riviera with like 15 other gms. It's just a bunch of corporate bs...the day I get out of the industry will be a glorious one...

I think tips are good because it makes the server work it really does, I definitely think quality of work would drop if tipping went away. Only on the busiest nights do I have to tip out 3%, host, bartender and expo. Like I said Applebees is a bit ghetto, this fcking 2 for 20 is cool because it makes people come in but I neeever get more then a 4 on it, it's nuts. Almost never.

Dam that sucks man if every tip was 10% it wouldn't even be worth it man, i'd just go work in a gas station and get benefits and shit at least. we have to tip out a minimum of 4.2% to everyone but you better throw in extra if you ever want them to get you out the weeds or get your table set up quicker than an hour.Service would just drop to the shitty ass tables that come in and just try and get their meal for free . You know the ones that come in eat everything and then it was no good cause they want a gift card or some shit. I really think the people that work hard would work even harder cause they know they're getting paid for it, and hard workers are usually intrinsically motivated, not just by money.Then again you could be right and servers could just stop givin a dam altogether...

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Originally Posted by amat

I think tips are good because it makes the server work it really does, I definitely think quality of work would drop if tipping went away. Only on the busiest nights do I have to tip out 3%, host, bartender and expo. Like I said Applebees is a bit ghetto, this fcking 2 for 20 is cool because it makes people come in but I neeever get more then a 4 on it, it's nuts. Almost never.

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Now I see how things are in America I see that tipping is quite neccessary there. I struggle to get my head around how an employer is allowed to pay 2 bucks an hour though, but as a customer there is no way I would be happy knowing my waiter is only earning that. I just wish that restaurant owners were more accountable and would provide a fair basic wage.

If you are happy with it, then it's fair enough I suppose. I just see it as being a bit unfair.

In regards to waiters, I NEVER TIP!!

I hate the idea of it... Especially if service is sub-standard... or just plain shit!

IMO i'm ALREADY paying for food AND service.

If the waiter/ waitress is upset about that, hers my tip...

GET A NEW JOB!! :mad:

Jim Boogie AKA Mr Pink ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-qV9wVGb38


What a great scene this is btw

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Originally Posted by Jimboogie

In regards to waiters, I NEVER TIP!!

I hate the idea of it... Especially if service is sub-standard... or just plain shit!

IMO i'm ALREADY paying for food AND service.

If the waiter/ waitress is upset about that, hers my tip...

GET A NEW JOB!! :mad:

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Who let The Grinch out! ;D

No, I know what you are saying. I kind of feel the same way and seven years of living in a country where people just don't tip, makes me question it's role and purpose.

The US food service sector sounds atrocious. Still quite shocked that they earn so little tbh. Tips are almost like a charity thing over there. "Please pay the wages of the underpaid serfs who are serving your meal because I as the restaurant owner and don't want to!". That's just not cool. :-\

Its something iv'e always felt stongly about...
That, and the whole ''and thats why i don't want a daughter'' thing (another story :rolleyes: )

But yeah, i do pitty the failed actors and actresses who ply their trade deep within the realms of the food service sector.

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Originally Posted by armin

I graduated college recently but am still serving while looking for a career. People that don't tip drive me nuts, esepcially the people that come in and get a kick out of treating you like jack and being inconsiderate and rude and then leaving something like a buck on 50$, makes me wana choke em. Due to some jacked up and outdated laws servers still only make 2.14 an hour, half of what original minimum wage used to be, minimum wage has since gone up to like 7+ and server wage has stayed the same. As long as there is no laws in place restaurants will just continue to pay servers 2.14 an hour and servers will be dependent on tips, which has been really shitty over the last year tip income has gone down considerably due to the economy. In case anyone is wondering 18-20% is a good tip, 15% is ok and anything below that is garabage since most waiters have to tip out about 5% of their tips to bussers, bar, front desk and such. Ok that's my rant sorry to bore. To answer the question I always tip 30% min

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:smilie_whisper: Next time they come in why not Tip stuff over the non tippers that would be quite just in a screwy kind of way:cooldevil: ..
..:domo-kun:"whoops here comes your meal and drinks.

I tip usually because the places I go out to I frequent certain establishments and I appreciate the service they give me. Now I don't like it when they add the tip into a check, that's bullshit!

I think what some of yall are mising is that many bartenders and waitstaff make pretty damn good money in only a few shifts and at a relatively small price to the consumer. This is actually a much better system for the US considering what the price for goods would be if the food and beverage industry had to pay a reasonable rate to keep good help. If I had to pay my barstaff what they were worth it would cost me a at least 400% increase in hourly wages paid which would probably account for at least a 30-40% increase in overhead. You can bet your ass that my owner would have made sure to pass this increase along to you the consumer.

Personally, I always tip when I go to restaurant or when I buy alcohol in a bar, in canada i always give 15% as it is normally what we could give to servers, in Luxembourg, service is include in the price you pay but I always add a little euro or 1.5 euros when the service has been good (i.e not trying to force us to buy more than what we want, a nice smile and a correct speed for the occupation of the restaurant at that moment). For the rest, I rarely tip though, sometimes if the taxi Driver was nice I give him an extra dollar but that is it.

i tip when i am on holiday (strange really)

but when i am in the states & sum guy pours me a beer, why the fk should i tip him for that? took him like 10 seconds & its his fkin job

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Originally Posted by Drago

i tip when i am on holiday (strange really)

but when i am in the states & sum guy pours me a beer, why the fk should i tip him for that? took him like 10 seconds & its his fkin job

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It seems he is earning $2.14 per hour. I agree with you, but it seems the Americans still have a thing for slavery. It's just that the punters are expected to prop up the wages instead. It's a crappy system obviously. Civilised countries don't have this kind of nonsense.

The UK tip system seems to be based on merit. The US one is based on a case of "tip or the waiters die hungry".