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No he didn't he won 3 out of 5, and though I don't think he beat Sturm, he definitely beat Mosley in their second fight... the guy many of you are stating would give Floyd his best fight, Also Oscar right before facing Floyd beat the shit out of Mayorga way worse than Mosley did to a much lesser version,and one of the guys he lost to was Bernard Hopkins who is currently the best light heavyweight in the world and one of the top 5 best fighters of hte past 20 years.
that fight was six years, oscar and shane. Mayorga was drinking in bars for a year before he faced oscar...Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
Oscar lost to Shane, Sturm, KAoyed by bhop, beat mayorga then fought Floyd.
Oh Hatton was limited at WW. Now ya'll believe us. When PBF fans said Hatton was limited in 2005 ya'll didn't beleive us and said PBF needed to fight Hatton. Now after PBF beats Hatton he is considered a limted fighter so the fight means nothing because Hatton was overrated like we said. Excuse me he was overrated until PAC beat him. After the PAC fight Hatton went right back to being a great fighter who lost to another great fighter.
All i want is for people to be consitant. I gotta go to class i'll be back later.
Well since i know for a fact that I made that comment about hatton i assume that youre speaking about me. Now it is fact that even before They fought, I mean immediately after floyd beat gatti, people were talking about that fight. My exact words then:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boxer
"It would look just like the Gatti fight except hatton would take more damage because he's stronger"
Then on the night of the fight I picked floyd in 10...
If its consistency you ask that's what my comment is rooted in. Staying the course and wanting Floyd to clean out the division by actually fighting the guys in the division not giving him "on paper" victories.
Does Floyd have what it takes to beat them all? Yes! Did he beat them? No!
No i wasn't speaking to you directly. Maybe indirectly if you don't think PBF doesn't deserve credit for beating Hatton. i Just don't understand why he gets no credit for this fight.
When the Judah fight was first proposed most people were very excited because they felt like this was a great match up and was a fight that fans wanted to see for years. Now when Judah stepped into the ring with Baldamir the Judah PBF was already a done deal and scheduled for april 8th. Also lets not forget that Judah was the WW champ when the PBF Judah fight was first set to happen. Hence the reason the PBF Judah fight still took place after Judah lost to Baldamir.
Floyd got total credit for his wins against everyone except this past bullshit with marquez
There are a lot of people who down PBF for fighting Hatton. To me that was his most meaningful above 135. JMM small but at the same time it's not like PBF does that all the time and JMM is top 5 P4P.
Also lets be real i love JMM but he wouldn't have beat an 130lb PBF but
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Originally Posted by The Boxer
Its not about whether he'd have beat him, but floyd isnt 120-107 better than a well conditioned marquez without that huge weight advantage. And it seems that just like FLoyd, most of his fans believe that if people arent saying
"hey floyd that was the greatest performance ever until your next fight and will you please aim for my left nostril when you skeet" then you must be a hater or jealous.
You must be kidding?
Mayweather steps into the ring with Shane Mosley, Cotto, Clottey, Antonio Margarito and what everyone wants Pacquiao and hes stepping into a fight. Any fight and it's a win. Stepping into the ring against Paul Williams would earn something more from fans that he doesn't get from most and that is respect.
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Originally Posted by fan johnny
I'll be the first to say that if he fights paul williams its not that impressive...I still dont think he's ready for a boxer like floyd. Quintana schooled him. And until Paul develops a "real" jab floyd will stay low and beat him.
This thread is a joke. Every one of floyd fans know deep down who he's ducking. If he fights Mosley (before he gets any older), Cotto (if he gets past Pac), or P Will (if he can still make 147), then he has proven himself wether he wins or loses.
In the end, floyd is the one who has to live with not taking the risks. All the above mentioned fighters have better resumes than floyd. Well maybe not Paul yet but if he gets more guys to fight him he will. He's not to blame for guys not wanting to take the risk of fighting him although i think he should remain at 154 or 160 to have more competitive fight because i think he's just too big for these guys.
Cotto and Shane match up well with floyd stylewise. Moreso Shane IMO but Paul would be a nightmare for floyd. You can talk about the Quintana fight all you want but if you know anything about boxing then you would know how styles affect fights.
Quintanas defence is based on movement and thats how he was able to cut Pauls punch output in half by making him miss and good timely counters. floyd on the other hand defends himself by rolling his shoulder mostly and staying in the pocket and and that would play greatly into Pauls strategy.
Stop making floyd look like the victim here. The victims are the people who fall into the deceit of thinking he's really looking to take a risk and pay money for PPVs or whatever they do to watch the fight.
Plain and simple bro, the guy is a fraud. Stop being fooled.
I point you to PBF-CORRALES and tell me if you think FLoyd can't move to avoid punches. If Quintana moved to beat him, Floyd would do the same. Floyd only sits in the pocket after he feel's he's in control of the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NY
You may be right but talk is cheap. Let's see if he can actually do it like Quintana did.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherI point you to PBF-CORRALES and tell me if you think FLoyd can't move to avoid punches. If Quintana moved to beat him, Floyd would do the same. Floyd only sits in the pocket after he feel's he's in control of the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NY
Secondly, I know your now comparing Corrales to Williams. You are talking about a guy 3-4 inches taller who is stronger, throws way more punches and has a way better chin.
No, he was talking about Mayweather's ability to move around the ring rather than sit in the pocket. He didn't say anything about KOing Williams, just that Mayweather would move around him & under his punches to box to a win. Which if Quintana can do, Mayweather certainly can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NYYou may be right but talk is cheap. Let's see if he can actually do it like Quintana did.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherI point you to PBF-CORRALES and tell me if you think FLoyd can't move to avoid punches. If Quintana moved to beat him, Floyd would do the same. Floyd only sits in the pocket after he feel's he's in control of the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NY
Secondly, I know your now comparing Corrales to Williams. You are talking about a guy 3-4 inches taller who is stronger, throws way more punches and has a way better chin.
Its funny that he got stuck on the Corrales part instead of the Floyd being able to move part. Which also brings me back his own reasoning that Quintana was able to win because his movement didn't allow paul to throw a lot of punches. Floyd would circle him all night, it would look almost exactly like corrales v floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinNo, he was talking about Mayweather's ability to move around the ring rather than sit in the pocket. He didn't say anything about KOing Williams, just that Mayweather would move around him & under his punches to box to a win. Which if Quintana can do, Mayweather certainly can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NYYou may be right but talk is cheap. Let's see if he can actually do it like Quintana did.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Secondly, I know your now comparing Corrales to Williams. You are talking about a guy 3-4 inches taller who is stronger, throws way more punches and has a way better chin.
Paul williams' size is an advantage, but he doesn't use it. If he used his Jab, floyd would be in serious trouble as would any fighter @ 147, because paul would dwarf them.