Tyson v Holyfield 3 - "King in talks with Tyson"

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Originally Posted by ross

Mike is not an animal that needs supresants:rolleyes:

King as Finkel didnt, wont let anyone with Mikes best interests and health at heart anywhere near him:rolleyes:

My sig comes from a home video filmed by Steve Lott, I speak to him a bit and hes told me that he still sends mail and trys phoning but everything gets blocked by Mikes helpers and that deep down Mike is embarassed about the way hes treated them, going from someone who had such a brilliant team that he had his own video game, he was advertising coke a cola, was a spokes person for the FBI and New york police department to someone who is rubbed up the wrong way in an airport by a pap for a cheap story.

Steve also told me a few months before Mike fought Lewis that he visited or tried viiting Kevin and Steve but neither were around, Steve found out and managed to get hold of Mike, they met up at a hotel and Steve spoke with mike about rejoining Kevin and doing a comeback tour colminating in a title challenege, Mike was very interested but as soon as he got back with a bloke called Daryll "Rolls Royce" someone and his other leaches, including Finkel, he never heard from him again.

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interesting

I think this could well happen if Holyfield can beat Botha;)

i wouldnt mind seeing this fight but i get the feeling tyson would only have 2 or 3 good rounds in him at most

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Originally Posted by smashup

Yeah he'd need to lose at least 5 stone maybe more.

Still would watch it...we all would and we know it;)

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people would watch this the same way they would watch Butterbean :cool:

If someone could drag Mike away and get him back to the catskills as cheesy as it sounds, if he were to talk to Kevin and Steve again, I think if any comeback were to happen this is the only way it could with any success, Mike just doesnt and never has had the respect for any other trainer, even Roach got fuucked around by Mike, he would know Kevin wouldnt be there for the money and would just tell him to grow up if he stareted slacking.

I dont for one minute think Mike can be made in to the threshing machine he was 23 years ago but I do think he can still have success with Holyfield.

If he manned up and got past all the bullshiit that was his fault to start with then I do think he would be like a child showing off to his parents at a football game, just giving his all to please them, he could still beat Holyfield but the man needs to want to train because even now Holyfield is streets ahead, hes been figting regularly and if he fought Mike hed be fighjting someone that hasnt fought for 5 years and has been through rehab and all sorts of shiit, Mike would have to put a shiit load of effort in and I cant see him doing that for anyone else other than Rooney.

There has been so many Tyson comeback reports with little substance.

Im a bit suprised only one website is claiming this comeback if in fact its true.
The only thing that makes it somewhat believeable is Don King's track record of dragging fighters out of retirment.

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Originally Posted by ross

If someone could drag Mike away and get him back to the catskills as cheesy as it sounds, if he were to talk to Kevin and Steve again, I think if any comeback were to happen this is the only way it could with any success, Mike just doesnt and never has had the respect for any other trainer, even Roach got fuucked around by Mike, he would know Kevin wouldnt be there for the money and would just tell him to grow up if he stareted slacking.

I dont for one minute think Mike can be made in to the threshing machine he was 23 years ago but I do think he can still have success with Holyfield.

If he manned up and got past all the bullshiit that was his fault to start with then I do think he would be like a child showing off to his parents at a football game, just giving his all to please them, he could still beat Holyfield but the man needs to want to train because even now Holyfield is streets ahead, hes been figting regularly and if he fought Mike hed be fighjting someone that hasnt fought for 5 years and has been through rehab and all sorts of shiit, Mike would have to put a shiit load of effort in and I cant see him doing that for anyone else other than Rooney.

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He should do all that anyway without the fight. It is far too late for a come back. He has made up with King he should make up with Rooney and Steve.

I love Tyson for his natural gifts, speed, power, ko artist. But the guy didn't have the mental makeup. People can blame Don King and whoever was leeching off of him, but MIke only has himself to blame for his downfall. Him and him alone is the reason he never fullfilled his potential greatness.

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

I love Tyson for his natural gifts, speed, power, ko artist. But the guy didn't have the mental makeup. People can blame Don King and whoever was leeching off of him, but MIke only has himself to blame for his downfall. Him and him alone is the reason he never fullfilled his potential greatness.

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Most fighters need another force in their corner to make them excel. By all early accounts of Tyson he seemed to realize that.
A trainer or father figure can make all the difference in the world if you need that mental reinforcement.
Tyson didnt seem to have the mental makeup to do it on his own but he had people in his corner that helped him get through tough situations. When that was gone I think what you are saying came to head very quickly.
I dont think its a total knock on Tyson himself as many great fighters have become great by having a solid structure and team in place.
I dont know too many fighters that have been able to get to the level Tyson did on their own or switching trainers every other fight.