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Nothing to say on the matter.. it's pretty clear Mayweather wants to fight, 14 day cut off is more than fair. Now Pacneedle will go down as the fighter who was scared to fight Floyd.
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Originally Posted by JazMerkin
Nothing to say on the matter.. it's pretty clear Mayweather wants to fight, 14 day cut off is more than fair. Now Pacneedle will go down as the fighter who was scared to fight Floyd.
apparently if you're not weight drained or shot (or a combination of both), then you don't qualify to be one of Pacquiao's opponents :-XQuote:
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Originally Posted by JazMerkin
Nothing to say on the matter.. it's pretty clear Mayweather wants to fight, 14 day cut off is more than fair. Now Pacneedle will go down as the fighter who was scared to fight Floyd.
i agree. with all these statements coming everybody i dont know who to believe anymore. f all of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesyup i'm leaning towards..... fuck Bob Arum, Richard Schaeffer, Al Heyman, Manny Pacquiao, and Floyd Mayweather Jr. at this point, they need to stop the drama and make the fight, if they're trying to make up for the lack of time to promote the fight with this bullshit well i'd prefer that it happen at the end of the year, cause this crap is beyond ridiculousQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
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apparently if you're not weight drained or shot (or a combination of both), then you don't qualify to be one of Pacquiao's opponents :-X[/quote]
Another low IQ post
NSCA has BOTH found out clean (Pac and Floyd), In this bargaining Manny and Floyd can you tell me if this fight with FloydvsPac comes in 146 or 145?
Pacquiao never calls ODLH remember its out scope, until ODLH call him at 147
Cotto said never have a problem at 145 can you give some link that there been a huge issue with Cotto at 145?
and Hatton @ 140
Pac he's not goin to do it again he used to be with Morales I, so lets respect for that.
Like Floyd the first time he calls for this random well just respect for that.
I would say they are both they are super stars and who had egos and pride the bargaining for what they want and cant be reach even the commission NSCA can do nothing with their current agreement coz its not implemented for this new kind of testing.
Well the commision need to upgrade, need to decide ASAP and to implement for the safety of boxers.
apparently if you're not weight drained or shot (or a combination of both), then you don't qualify to be one of Pacquiao's opponents :-X[/quote]
Another low IQ post
NSCA has BOTH found out clean (Pac and Floyd), In this bargaining Manny and Floyd can you tell me if this fight with FloydvsPac comes in 146 or 145?
Pacquiao never calls ODLH remember its out scope, until ODLH call him at 147
Cotto said never have a problem at 145 can you give some link that there been a huge issue with Cotto at 145?
and Hatton @ 140
Pac he's not goin to do it again he used to be with Morales I, so lets respect for that.
Like Floyd the first time he calls for this random well just respect for that.
I would say they are both they are super stars and who had egos and pride the bargaining for what they want and cant be reach even the commission NSCA can do nothing with their current agreement coz its not implemented for this new kind of testing.
Well the commision need to upgrade, need to decide ASAP and to implement for the safety of boxers.[/QUOTE]
umm did this make any sense to you before typing it cause you're just rambling on about bull dude,
you basically acknowledged what i said is true, if you're not weight drained or shot or a bit of both, you wont get a fight with Pacquiao
Mayweather is neither and as of yesterday the fight is off, due to the fact that Manny Pacquiao refuses to take a simple series of blood tests
DLH was both, shot and weight drained
Hatton could very well be finished
and Cotto boiled down to 145 and well unless does something dramatic like put his uncle in his corner again he could very well be done as well
Pacquiao is a bitch who thinks that everything needs to go as he says, well sorry he holds no leverage over Mayweather (seeing how he's still the biggest PPV draw right now) and Floyd has agreed to all of Manny's terms, but well apparently Pacquiao is afraid to take on the best fighter in the world on even terms, or it could be like Nate Campbell said and Manny Pacquiao is afraid of taking on a black fighter lmao :-X
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Ok...I can name it the 8oz gloves? at welters 147lbs? and Las Vegas? Who do you think has all the advantages? 8oz gloves like a 5 year veteran at welters how about at weight 147lbs.?who do you think has the experience advantage still as we see PAc at Cotto at 144? Still a big deal even Pac accept at 147? How about the Las Vegas his turf.?
As you can see Pac has youd said has the leverages that i dont see any advantage of it really, Physically, the reach and the experience at welters are all for FLOYD.
The funny thing of this I can SEE Floyd winning over the MIDGET Pac even on NSCA standard procedure. BOTH are found clean in their last 5-10 fights, so why Floyd whining? doubt? scared?
Like i said the commission has to update, i agree on youd what said for the random testing still if the commission has to implement it.why not...
If Pac still insist on the new implementation of the commission well I will the one to jump on your bandwagon....and Will say HE was disgrace in boxing community.
first off, the 8oz gloves were Pacquiao's demands, Floyd's only request was that each fighter use whatever brand they want, Grant for Mayweather, Reyes for PacquiaoQuote:
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Ok...I can name it the 8oz gloves? at welters 147lbs? and Las Vegas? Who do you think has all the advantages? 8oz gloves like a 5 year veteran at welters how about at weight 147lbs.?who do you think has the experience advantage still as we see PAc at Cotto at 144? Still a big deal even Pac accept at 147? How about the Las Vegas his turf.?
As you can see Pac has youd said has the leverages that i dont see any advantage of it really, Physically, the reach and the experience at welters are all for FLOYD.
The funny thing of this I can SEE Floyd winning over the MIDGET Pac even on NSCA standard procedure. BOTH are found clean in their last 5-10 fights, so why Floyd whining? doubt? scared?
Like i said the commission has to update, i agree on youd what said for the random testing still if the commission has to implement it.why not...
If Pac still insist on the new implementation of the commission well I will the one to jump on your bandwagon....and Will say HE was disgrace in boxing community.
Cotto having the hometown advantage at LV? most of Cotto's big fights have been on the east coast, mainly MSG or Atlantic City
DLH boiled down to 146 lbs. and weighed less than Pacquiao on fight night :-\
and all of the following Pacquiao fights were in Vegas
Ledwaba
Marquez I
Morales I
Morales II
Morales III
Barrera II
Marquez II
D. Diaz
DLH
Hatton
Cotto
so it's not like he's a stranger in Vegas, there have only been two bad calls in that list and those were both Marquez fights, and they went in favor of Pacquiao :-X
If this is indeed true than Pussiauo, has gone from hero to zero in a matter of months...
The funniest part to me out of all the credibility Pac and Roach HAD, Freddie and Arum were more than prepared to fight Yuri Foreman at 154lbs to cherry pick a title.. Yet they absolutely boiled down Delahoya to 147 so as to be a corpse even though 154 was his optimal weight... BUT WAIT Cotto had to be at 145 to 147 yet they were ready to make a move to 154.. Until Puss said Foreman was to tall:rolleyes:
What an absolute disgust and puke of a Team
If what Mayweather says is true why does'nt Bob Arum call his bluff and say we will fight you and the cut of point is 14days for the blood test. But no bob arum comes out and says you are lying its your fault any1 else find this strange?
It is strange how they have been so silent.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebif
But it's not as if they could say something truthful now after all the rubbish they have spewed. :-\
Pac lost this war big time. He looks pathetic.
His career is lost as far as I can see. He had a chance to shine as one of the best and he shunned it over a blood test. What a wimp.
Here's Freddie Roach before Christmas :Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
"I will not let my fighter take a blood test the day before a fight," Roach said. "If they give me a five-day window or something like that I have no problem with it."
Manny Pacquiao's blood test refusal puts Floyd Mayweather Jr fight at risk | Sport | guardian.co.uk
It's amazing how his own trainer didn't know about the 30 day superstition.
Here's another good quote from Koncz :
"[Experts told us that any PEDs] will be in your blood 40 days before the fight or the day after the fight. Whatever is there is there for that time period. So what the hell does 14 days have to do with it? Nothing other than to irritate Manny knowing that he has whatever, a fear or a superstition of extracting blood less than 30 days."
This quote and a lot of what Arum has had to say over the past couple of weeks (blood tests are meaningless, our experts claim urine tests are better etc.) is basically for domestic Phillipine consumption. It's just damage limitation for Pacneedle's reputation back home as they can trust the domestic media not to ask too many questions and expose the bs. I bet Arum is fucking furious about this whole mess though.
Arum is just covering up for Manny. He's doing the best he can with a bad hand. It's obvious Manny feels he needs at least 24 days to take enough PEDs to win the fight, 14 days just isn't long enough for the Phillipino drug cheat.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebif
...and if you accept to fight him without any blood tests, if not, you don't qualify either :-X.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesapparently if you're not weight drained or shot (or a combination of both), then you don't qualify to be one of Pacquiao's opponents :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by JoeyUKLOL. Rep ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
Nothing to say on the matter.. it's pretty clear Mayweather wants to fight, 14 day cut off is more than fair. Now Pacneedle will go down as the fighter who was scared to fight Floyd.
Funny how all of these threads just keep going around in circles. Anyway, everything I have read on this mediation is that everyone in that room agreed on everything. Then both sides went back to their respective fighters to show them what had been tabled. Manny agreed and Floyd didn't.
don't know where you read that cause everything i've read on yahoo and espn has said the oppositeQuote:
Originally Posted by 15rounder