Re: does numbing your hands gives advantage in actual boxing fight?
Of course it's an advantage, anything that allows you to take more pain in a combat sport is wrong IMO.
Re: does numbing your hands gives advantage in actual boxing fight?
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Kel
Of course it's an advantage, anything that allows you to take more pain in a combat sport is wrong IMO.
Yep. As Bigragu explained boxing is pain. And anything that masks that pain is an advantage.
BTW, most states in the US have ban this drug in boxing matches, even Nevada has followed suit. I believe all boxers should be natural. No pain injections, no PEDs, nothing.
BUt the USADA and WADA says it's not illegal to use, go figure. The plot sure thickens.
What the xylocaine/lidocaine drugs do.
-Increase pain threshold
-Sensation of euphoria
-Feelings of invincibility
-Failure to recognize injury
-psychological stimulation
This is a big discussion now on other boxing boards. And not everyone that is saying that this shit is an unfair advantage is a Pacman dikrider. Bigragu isn't one and neither am I. In fact I have been pretty hard on Pacman for refusing random blood test. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Re: does numbing your hands gives advantage in actual boxing fight?
...I need to get some of that stuff man, my hands are aching a bit after my heavybag workout. ;)
Just when boxing had so much momentum and now I feel as if we're going to fall off big time because the 2 guys at the top of the P4P rankings are both cheating or suspected of cheating......damn shame and different than the way Ali, Holyfield, Tyson, et al "cheated" (just so I clarify, they didn't really "cheat" per say but they all bent the rules pretty good)
Re: does numbing your hands gives advantage in actual boxing fight?
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
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Originally Posted by
Kel
Of course it's an advantage, anything that allows you to take more pain in a combat sport is wrong IMO.
Yep. As Bigragu explained boxing is pain. And anything that masks that pain is an advantage.
BTW, most states in the US have ban this drug in boxing matches, even Nevada has followed suit. I believe all boxers should be natural. No pain injections, no PEDs, nothing.
BUt the USADA and WADA says it's not illegal to use, go figure. The plot sure thickens.
What the xylocaine/lidocaine drugs do.
-Increase pain threshold
-Sensation of euphoria
-Feelings of invincibility
-Failure to recognize injury
-psychological stimulation
This is a big discussion now on other boxing boards. And not everyone that is
saying that this shit is an unfair advantage is a Pacman dikrider. Bigragu isn't one and neither am I. In fact I have been pretty hard on Pacman for refusing random blood test. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
i'm confused :(
You realize that Floyd is the one using xylocaine and not Pacquiao right? for his hands?
I believe the topic is about Mayweather or even DLH who used it before. What does Pac has to do with Floyd or even Oscar using drugs for their hands?
Re: does numbing your hands gives advantage in actual boxing fight?
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Originally Posted by
miron_lang
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
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Originally Posted by
Kel
Of course it's an advantage, anything that allows you to take more pain in a combat sport is wrong IMO.
Yep. As Bigragu explained boxing is pain. And anything that masks that pain is an advantage.
BTW, most states in the US have ban this drug in boxing matches, even Nevada has followed suit. I believe all boxers should be natural. No pain injections, no PEDs, nothing.
BUt the USADA and WADA says it's not illegal to use, go figure. The plot sure thickens.
What the xylocaine/lidocaine drugs do.
-Increase pain threshold
-Sensation of euphoria
-Feelings of invincibility
-Failure to recognize injury
-psychological stimulation
This is a big discussion now on other boxing boards. And not everyone that is
saying that this shit is an unfair advantage is a Pacman dikrider. Bigragu isn't one and neither am I. In fact I have been pretty hard on Pacman for refusing random blood test. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
i'm confused :(
You realize that Floyd is the one using xylocaine and not Pacquiao right? for his hands?
I believe the topic is about Mayweather or even DLH who used it before. What does Pac has to do with Floyd or even Oscar using drugs for their hands?
Believe it or not it is more harmful then good in the long run...Aside from the whole using to fight issue...From what I understand the joints in your hand become dependent on the stuff...Often becoming sore all the time because of joint swelling...
Re: does numbing your hands gives advantage in actual boxing fight?
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DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by
miron_lang
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
Yep. As Bigragu explained boxing is pain. And anything that masks that pain is an advantage.
BTW, most states in the US have ban this drug in boxing matches, even Nevada has followed suit. I believe all boxers should be natural. No pain injections, no PEDs, nothing.
BUt the USADA and WADA says it's not illegal to use, go figure. The plot sure thickens.
What the xylocaine/lidocaine drugs do.
-Increase pain threshold
-Sensation of euphoria
-Feelings of invincibility
-Failure to recognize injury
-psychological stimulation
This is a big discussion now on other boxing boards. And not everyone that is saying that this shit is an unfair advantage is a Pacman dikrider. Bigragu isn't one and neither am I. In fact I have been pretty hard on Pacman for refusing random blood test. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
i'm confused :(
You realize that Floyd is the one using xylocaine and not Pacquiao right? for his hands?
I believe the topic is about Mayweather or even DLH who used it before. What does Pac has to do with Floyd or even Oscar using drugs for their hands?
Believe it or not it is more harmful then good in the long run...Aside from the whole using to fight issue...From what I understand the joints in your hand become dependent on the stuff...Often becoming sore all the time because of joint swelling...
that might be true. but people have different ideas about this. and what does Pacquiao have to do with this? that's what im asking bulldog
Re: does numbing your hands gives advantage in actual boxing fight?
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Originally Posted by
DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by
miron_lang
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
Yep. As Bigragu explained boxing is pain. And anything that masks that pain is an advantage.
BTW, most states in the US have ban this drug in boxing matches, even Nevada has followed suit. I believe all boxers should be natural. No pain injections, no PEDs, nothing.
BUt the USADA and WADA says it's not illegal to use, go figure. The plot sure thickens.
What the xylocaine/lidocaine drugs do.
-Increase pain threshold
-Sensation of euphoria
-Feelings of invincibility
-Failure to recognize injury
-psychological stimulation
This is a big discussion now on other boxing boards. And not everyone that is saying that this shit is an unfair advantage is a Pacman dikrider. Bigragu isn't one and neither am I. In fact I have been pretty hard on Pacman for refusing random blood test. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
i'm confused :(
You realize that Floyd is the one using xylocaine and not Pacquiao right? for his hands?
I believe the topic is about Mayweather or even DLH who used it before. What does Pac has to do with Floyd or even Oscar using drugs for their hands?
Believe it or not it is more harmful then good in the long run...Aside from the whole using to fight issue...From what I understand the joints in your hand become dependent on the stuff...Often becoming sore all the time because of joint swelling...
That's what I'm saying, don't get me wrong - it is cheating... but if you have ruined hands it's just allowing you to use your hands in the way that a normal person without damaged hands would.
PEDs/Plaster wraps take you ABOVE the level of a normal person... so whilst this is bad, PEDs and loaded wraps are far worse in my opinion.
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killersheep
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zbolt
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generalbulldog
good insights. whats bigragu's username here at saddo?
He went by BigRagu or THEBigRagu
He was a cool guy really, very objective in his posting.
@WayneFlint - He's allowed his view that NO drugs should be allowed in the ring.
I didnt have a problem with the no drugs in the ring point he was trying to prove,i had a problem with the hand gesture he made, it seemd disrespectful to people with inhalers, just like i wouldnt make a pie eating gesture towards him as it might be considered rude, im always careful not to discriminate against people.. oops
Re: does numbing your hands gives advantage in actual boxing fight?
On the rules and restrictions side of the argument, logic dictates that if it is within the law to use it, then by no means should there be a problem for its use.
On the physical side of it is that, there seem to be more harm in its usage than any undue advantage it will ever provide. It will not set the hands for heavier hitting like a plastergate will, and it can never add any power to the punches.
It does add a sense of false security in striking for volume tho, but to which end can eventually, in the future, move the drug user to a state of incapacity.
More cons than pros, in my view.
