Re: Super heavy? Super stupid
No Super-Heavyweight division is needed, absolutely NOT, and Jose Sulaiman has been one of the most cursed scourges to Boxing in history.
Why has 5'9" fat, old, blown up middleweight James Toney without heavyweight power been able to successfully compete with modern Heavyweights?
How did 6', feather-fisted, blown up 168 pounder Chris Byrd become a Heavyweight title holder in the New Millennium ?
Who gave 6'5" 244 lb Lennox Lewis his toughest fights?
Rahman and McCall aren't giants.
6'2" Holyfield was a natural 188 pounder who bulked up to about 215.
Ruslan's only 6'1"
Sultan Ibragimov is usually below 220 lbs.
David Haye is 215.
Size is only an advantage to the point where it compromises speed, athleticism, and endurance.
A lot of these 244 lbs Heavyweights these days carry a helluva lot of fat into the ring with them too; if they actually trained that fat off the way fighters in other weight-classes do, almost all of these guys would be in the 205 to 225 lbs range.
It p!$$es me off to see dead-heads like these sanctioning bodies getting together to further damage boxing in their transparent effort to make a few extra dollars.
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Let's also not forget another aging former middleweight champ, 5'11" Roy Jones, successfully taking a Heavyweight title in the modern era.
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Re: Super heavy? Super stupid
But keep in mind that if a Super heavyweight division is formed then the two people most affected would be the two best heavyweights right now in the Klitschko bros. who are not fat and out of shape.
Re: Super heavy? Super stupid
No way!
If a super heavyweight division is created, it immediately destroys the kudos of the heavyweight division.
I know the Klits have headlined in the bore-athon in the heavyweight division over the last few years, but surely there is light at the end of the tunnel. A Haye v Vlad fight would be the biggest attraction in that division for years.
Perhaps HDBO et al, have all forgotten just how big an event a "good" world heavyweight is.
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FTMatty
No way!
If a super heavyweight division is created, it immediately destroys the kudos of the heavyweight division.
I know the Klits have headlined in the bore-athon in the heavyweight division over the last few years, but surely there is light at the end of the tunnel. A Haye v Vlad fight would be the biggest attraction in that division for years.
Perhaps HDBO et al, have all forgotten just how big an event a "good" world heavyweight is.
agree completely
historic matchups like valuev-haye would never happen because valuev would have to lose a certain amount of weight to fight him.
Super heavyweight division would just be the creation of a freak show where rare entitys like someone who`s over 7 foot tall or 300pounds big would scrap with eachother
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The creation of SUPER Heavyweight division would be tragically ironic.
Having said that, i do still welcome the idea of essentially bridging the Gap between Cruiserweights and the Big Men... Whole heartedly AND with a passion.
Would it be so bad if there was a Super Cruiserweight Division ???
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I think there was.Booby Czyz.Super hvy has been kicked around forever.Late 90's I remember Kellerman every single week running on about its need with all of the 'Huge' hvys coming up.What was lost was that Goofy whitaker,Grant,Wolfgram pretty much amounted to busts.Size is overrated,strictly speaking of boxers of course.
Its not needed.The capable 'smaller' hvys can rise to the occasion and compete with the best.Just another division in a sea of far to many already.
Re: Super heavy? Super stupid
Boxing needs another weight class like it needs another governing body, belt, Don King, John Ruiz... Christ this is too easy.