Re: Fights Where you thought the official winner lost
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Mosely vs de la hoya 2 - I thought shane landed 2 decent shots the whole fight. And thats when he did throw which wasn't often at all.
Both Pac vs marquez fights. Yes I'm well aware the first one was a draw, but still I think jaun had him beat.
Fury vs Mcdermot - Battle of the bums, Mcdermot won it, felt sorry for him.
Ottke vs Reid - Most of Sven Ottke's fights should be on here.
Corrales ve Castillio 1 - Very dubious circumstanses there.
Lewis vs holyfield - was a draw but lewis won by a mile
De la hoy vs sturm - Big controversy at the time
wut was dubious about that fight?? are u saying chico should have been disqualified for the mouth piece spitting?? that was one of the greatest fights of all time, particularly cause of the ending, a great display of heart by one of the most corageous fighters to ever do it and a great job of refeering by Tony Weeks not calling it after the second knock down since chico obviously had a lot left in the tank.
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Quartey vs ODH - had quartey winning that one 114-113
Gatti vs Ward 1- the worst thing that could have been was a draw
Whitaker vs ODH - thought Whitaker beat him
Sturn vs ODH - Sturn kicked his fuckin ass LOL
Duran vs Camacho 1 - though close I had Duran winning
Malinagi vs Diaz 1 - that was home town cooking
Collazo vs Hatton - close but Collazo should have atleast got the draw if not the W
Barrera vs Morrales 1 - Barrera won that one by atleast 3 points
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Peter Buckley V about 50 opponents unluckiest boxer ever !
Oscar V Mayweather, i had him winning by 1 rd
Michael Brodie V Willie Jorrin.
Obviously two of the three Morrales V Barrera fights, two fights went the wrong way completely.
boxer dude ; are you serious with this one Quartey vs ODH - had quartey winning that one 114-113
I cannot remember Ike Quartey actually throwing a meaningful punch in the whole fight :confused:
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Oscar - Mosley II
Oscar - Tito
Augustus - Burton
Ali - Norton III
Ali - Frazier II (One of the most overlooked robberies in boxing history)
Foreman - Briggs
Not sure about Frazier-Ali being that close. I do think it was closer than people remember it.
Oscar, Foreman, SweetPea, and Ali are the most cited?
Re: Fights Where you thought the official winner lost
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Quartey vs ODH - had quartey winning that one 114-113
Gatti vs Ward 1- the worst thing that could have been was a draw
Whitaker vs ODH - thought Whitaker beat him
Sturn vs ODH - Sturn kicked his fuckin ass LOL
Duran vs Camacho 1 - though close I had Duran winning
Malinagi vs Diaz 1 - that was home town cooking
Collazo vs Hatton - close but Collazo should have atleast got the draw if not the W
Barrera vs Morrales 1 - Barrera won that one by atleast 3 points
Gatti - Ward1? I don't think anyone had any problem with either fighter winning that fight. The difference there was the KD. You might be the first person I have every hear actually say that was not a good decision. With a guaranteed rematch, nobody cared who won or how close it was. And if Ward never got the nod for that fight, we would have never gotten Gatti Ward III! imagine how bad that would have been?
Oscar - Sturum* did win in my eyes too. But he didn't spank him or anything. Again, close fight.
Hatton - Callazo was very close. I was holding my breathe for the scores. I think Callazo found his rhythm WAY too late. He started finding his home in the 11th and 12th. Granted if it went 1 more round I think he was going to stop Hatton. But that Callazo's fault for not stepping on the gas in time.
Barrera - Morales I had the victories the other way around for the first two fights. I agree Barrera, then morales wins the rematch.
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Peter Buckley V about 50 opponents unluckiest boxer ever !
Oscar V Mayweather, i had him winning by 1 rd
Michael Brodie V Willie Jorrin.
Obviously two of the three Morrales V Barrera fights, two fights went the wrong way completely.
boxer dude ; are you serious with this one Quartey vs ODH - had quartey winning that one 114-113
I cannot remember Ike Quartey actually throwing a meaningful punch in the whole fight :confused:
How bout the punch that knocked Oscar on his ass?? u gotta watch that fight again Hittman, it was a very close exciting fight, I could see how u could score it for Oscar but Quartey not landing a meaningful punch the whole fight?? I think your way off on that observation dude.
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I had Quartey 114-113 too
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boxer dude
Quartey vs ODH - had quartey winning that one 114-113
Gatti vs Ward 1- the worst thing that could have been was a draw
Whitaker vs ODH - thought Whitaker beat him
Sturn vs ODH - Sturn kicked his fuckin ass LOL
Duran vs Camacho 1 - though close I had Duran winning
Malinagi vs Diaz 1 - that was home town cooking
Collazo vs Hatton - close but Collazo should have atleast got the draw if not the W
Barrera vs Morrales 1 - Barrera won that one by atleast 3 points
Gatti - Ward1? I don't think anyone had any problem with either fighter winning that fight. The difference there was the KD. You might be the first person I have every hear actually say that was not a good decision. With a guaranteed rematch, nobody cared who won or how close it was. And if Ward never got the nod for that fight, we would have never gotten Gatti Ward III! imagine how bad that would have been?
Oscar - Sturum* did win in my eyes too. But he didn't spank him or anything. Again, close fight.
Hatton - Callazo was very close. I was holding my breathe for the scores. I think Callazo found his rhythm WAY too late. He started finding his home in the 11th and 12th. Granted if it went 1 more round I think he was going to stop Hatton. But that Callazo's fault for not stepping on the gas in time.
Barrera - Morales I had the victories the other way around for the first two fights. I agree Barrera, then morales wins the rematch.
Jonny the second Barrera-Morrales fight was closer than the first, Barrera was winning the first fight IMO before the knock down in the 12th, granted it should have been ruled a slip but never the less u have to call it 10-8 I remember Harold Lederman had it like 116-112 Barrera or something of that nature.
As for the Sturum fight Oscar was a lumped up mess afterwards, granted had he not come in a gushy fat slob he would have probably won, but he did get his ass kicked that fight
And as exiting as the gatti-ward trilogy was gatti was the better man in all three fights, watch the first one closely and score it and i'm sure u will feel the same way.
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Williams - Martinez : Should of been a draw. Both fighters gave an excellent amount of effort.
Marquez - Pacquiao 2 : I had Marquez winning 115-112. I was more impressed with Marquez's well timed shots and how he was able to control the pace of the fight for the majority of it. Close fight overall though.
Calzaghe - Hopkins : I had Hopkins edging it 114-113. I was simply more impressed with Hopkins cleaner harder shots. Very close fight though.
Froch - Dirrell : I had Dirrell a clear winner. Froch came forward but landed very rarely and he was only successful really when he fought dirty which doesn't score points. Even though Dirrell over complained at times that doesn't change the fact that he landed he cleaner harder shots throughout and controlled the action with his superior boxing ability.
Mosley - De La Hoya 2 : I remember having DLH a close but clear winner. DLH outboxed Mosley behind his jab and i thought he took most of the early and middle rounds. Mosley had a late rally but in my opinion, it was too late.
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Mattyhitman
Peter Buckley V about 50 opponents unluckiest boxer ever !
Oscar V Mayweather, i had him winning by 1 rd
Michael Brodie V Willie Jorrin.
Obviously two of the three Morrales V Barrera fights, two fights went the wrong way completely.
boxer dude ; are you serious with this one Quartey vs ODH - had quartey winning that one 114-113
I cannot remember Ike Quartey actually throwing a meaningful punch in the whole fight :confused:
How bout the punch that knocked Oscar on his ass?? u gotta watch that fight again Hittman, it was a very close exciting fight, I could see how u could score it for Oscar but Quartey not landing a meaningful punch the whole fight?? I think your way off on that observation dude.
I may have to watch the fight again, but i may fall asleep it was that bloody boring from what i remember, more of a chess match than a boxing match. I must have erased the match from my memory somehow and forgot the knockdown :cool:
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Calzaghe v Reid.
Calzaghe v Hopkins.
Johnny Nelson v Guillermo Jones.
Valuev v Haye. ( awful fight , i didnt think Haye would get the verdict in Germany ).
Reid v Ottka.
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Sambu Kalambay v Herol Graham 2 was a robbery
Re: Fights Where you thought the official winner lost
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Some of these fights aren't really robberies, i mean fights like ODLH vs Whitaker, FMJ vs JLC 1, Shane Mosley vs ODLH 2, are very close fights that could of gone either way. Even Shane Mosley vs ODLH 2 is an overrated bad decision. Im thinking of fights like Tyrone Everett vs Alfredo Escalera that was just plain awful.
The threaisn't about robberies it's just about the loser being the you thought won.
And there are waaaay to many to list.
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there are a whole mess of fights like this
Hopkins/Calzaghe
Morales/Barrera I - Barrera should have won by at least 2 points although the KD was bullshit
Morales/Barrera II - Morales kept calm most the fight and won clearly
DLH/Trinidad - i had DLH winning 8 rds to 4 last time i watched it, still no way Tito won it
DLH/Sturm - Sturm won 115-113 on my card, no way was it an ass whooping either
DLH/Mosley II - I had Oscar winning 116-112
Hopkins/Taylor I & II - first fight at worse was a draw, Hopkins won the rematch clearer than the first time around
Froch/Dirrell - hometown cooking at its worst
Foreman/Briggs - the old man was robbed
Holyfield/Lewis I & II - Lewis won the first fight and IMO Holyfield did enough to earn the rematch
Holyfield/Moorer I - even while sick i thought he outworked Moorer and should have got the nod
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Mattyhitman
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Mattyhitman
Peter Buckley V about 50 opponents unluckiest boxer ever !
Oscar V Mayweather, i had him winning by 1 rd
Michael Brodie V Willie Jorrin.
Obviously two of the three Morrales V Barrera fights, two fights went the wrong way completely.
boxer dude ; are you serious with this one Quartey vs ODH - had quartey winning that one 114-113
I cannot remember Ike Quartey actually throwing a meaningful punch in the whole fight :confused:
How bout the punch that knocked Oscar on his ass?? u gotta watch that fight again Hittman, it was a very close exciting fight, I could see how u could score it for Oscar but Quartey not landing a meaningful punch the whole fight?? I think your way off on that observation dude.
I may have to watch the fight again, but i may fall asleep it was that bloody boring from what i remember, more of a chess match than a boxing match. I must have erased the match from my memory somehow and forgot the knockdown :cool:
They actually both went down in the same round, you add the way ODH finished and you have a hell of a fight, I don't know what u would consider an exciting fight because that fight was pretty awesome.