pavlik agrees to fight martinez!

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Originally Posted by themacmagician

I'd say Martinez has a good chin so 2D Pavlik for me gets thouroughly outboxed by Martinez. Anyone agree? Disagree?

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i agree pavlik is gona come at him majority of the time like williams did and hes gona outbox him. i felt martinez outboxed williams and won the fight any one agree or disagree?

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Originally Posted by nyc champ

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Originally Posted by themacmagician

I'd say Martinez has a good chin so 2D Pavlik for me gets thouroughly outboxed by Martinez. Anyone agree? Disagree?

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i agree pavlik is gona come at him majority of the time like williams did and hes gona outbox him. i felt martinez outboxed williams and won the fight any one agree or disagree?

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I have to disagree although I had it razor thin... I had it for Williams. Martinez fought a great fight though and he will give Pavlik fits. As I said, I have him over Kelly by SD

I guess I'm in the minority yet again, but I think Pavlik stops Martinez. Martinez is an exciting fighter and I love watching him box, but he does get hit and if Williams can hurt him than so can Pavlik. Pavlik is going to be the biggest fight Martinez has ever faced and while Martinez can outbox him, he's going to get hit at some point and if he gasses like he did against Williams he won't survive Pavlik.

And anyone who calls Kelly Pavlik a coward is a fucking idiot. I strongly dislike Pavlik and I loathe the people he surrounds himself with, but a coward he is not. He fought Miranda when he was arguably the most avoided fighter in boxing, he fought the unified champion in Jermaine Taylor, and an all-time great in Hopkins. Furthermore, he seems to be willing to fight Bute after Martinez. Just because he ducked out of a gimme fight with Sergio Mora and couldn't fight Williams does not make him a coward.

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Originally Posted by CFH

I guess I'm in the minority yet again, but I think Pavlik stops Martinez. Martinez is an exciting fighter and I love watching him box, but he does get hit and if Williams can hurt him than so can Pavlik. Pavlik is going to be the biggest fight Martinez has ever faced and while Martinez can outbox him, he's going to get hit at some point and if he gasses like he did against Williams he won't survive Pavlik.

And anyone who calls Kelly Pavlik a coward is a fucking idiot. I strongly dislike Pavlik and I loathe the people he surrounds himself with, but a coward he is not. He fought Miranda when he was arguably the most avoided fighter in boxing, he fought the unified champion in Jermaine Taylor, and an all-time great in Hopkins. Furthermore, he seems to be willing to fight Bute after Martinez. Just because he ducked out of a gimme fight with Sergio Mora and couldn't fight Williams does not make him a coward.

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Anyone who sits on a messageboard and calls ANY professional fighter a coward is an idiot of the highest order. Apparently there's a load of keyboard Corrales out there.

Anyway, I'm with you, I see a Pavlik win, he's got crazy power at 160 and Martinez can't afford to get hit even a third as much as he did against Williams. On the other hand it will be a different fight, I don't think he'll engage as much and I think he hurt Williams more than the other way round. Still I see a Pavlik win by TKO and Youngblood pissing both of us off gloating in the chat room.

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Originally Posted by ICB

If Antonio Margarito can beat the stuffing out of Sergio Martinez, then Kelly Pavlik has a chance. Paul Williams isn't really a big puncher especially at the higher weightclasses. And i just think Sergio Martinez's style was tailor made to look good against Paul Williams, seeing as how Paul Williams lost to Carlos Quintana another slick Southpaw.

I think Sergio Martinez is a good fighter, but i think he gets a bit overrated on this board. Yes he beat Kermit Cintron but again i don't think much of Kermit Cintron, and he looked good against a good journeyman in Alex Bunema. And he had a good showing against Paul Williams, but again see above what i said about that fight.

But i just don't think Sergio Martinez is as good as some people claim, and i think Kelly Pavlik has a chance to stop Sergio Martinez. Who's defense at times is pretty poor, Kelly Pavlik has a very good straight right hand. Which is a southpaw's weakness, and he has good power. Remind me how many times as Sergio Martinez fought at Middleweight ?

And Kelly Pavlik also puts the pressure on for the full 12 rounds, and as i said if Antonio Margarito can stop Sergio Martinez, who technically isn't even as good as Kelly Pavlik, then i wouldn't be shocked if Kelly Pavlik done the samething. Considering there both similar in the fact they both, put alot of pressure on. And Sergio Martinez wilted against Antonio Margarito.

Finally i've got nothing against Sergio Martinez, and maybe im being a bit harsh on him. But im just not that high on him personally, and im still a fan of Kelly Pavlik. So i'll be rooting for him all the way, but i wouldn't be disappointed if Sergio Martinez won.

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And if Martinez was the same fighter he was back then, then Williams and Cintron would have beat the stuffing out of him. he got a lot better since then. Using margarito as a reason that Martinez would get beat is like still bringing up Castillo to say Hatton had a chance to beat Mayweather.

martinez is a better fighter now. And Pavlik's only chance is his power, don't see him outboxing Martinez