Re: Berto Vs. Quintana April 10th
I see Collazo as the superior fighter to Quintana. I honestly think the only reason people think Collazo isn't all that is because he hurt his left hand early against Mosley because in those first three rounds he was doing better than mosley was in the fight. ONce he stopped throwing with conviction Mosley could do whatever he wanted and knew Collazo was throwing punches short. He has considerably faster hands than Quintana, and he has a much higher output and a much better chin. I think output bothers Berto more than technical skill because when Berto fights a technical fighter he fights more technical himself (like against Forbes) or when Collazo tried to box against Berto, Andre controlled him really easily on the outside with that speed.
Re: Berto Vs. Quintana April 10th
i'd say Quintana is plenty active, he beat Williams the first time around cause he was outworking Williams, he has a wider variety of punches and has better power than Collazo, and can't really knock his chin seeing how the only guys to hurt him are, hard hitting Joel Julio, the strongest guy at welter Miguel Cotto, and the freak of nature Paul Williams
Re: Berto Vs. Quintana April 10th
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ElTerribleMorales
i'd say Quintana is plenty active, he beat Williams the first time around cause he was outworking Williams, he has a wider variety of punches and has better power than Collazo, and can't really knock his chin seeing how the only guys to hurt him are, hard hitting Joel Julio, the strongest guy at welter Miguel Cotto, and the freak of nature Paul Williams
I'm not trying to hate on Quintana, I like him a lot. However, I just don't see him at that elite level, I think he had/has the right style to beat Paul Williams which is basically anyone who excels and boxing and moving. But Paul Williams isn't a big puncher and he got Williams out of there quick the second fight. Miguel Cotto is a massive puncher so I don't discredit Quintana for that except that every other welterweight Cotto fought handled his power a little bit better.
I just can't see him as a step up for Berto who beats a guy in Collazo who doesn't have the name, but could compete against anyone at the top level of the division if he has an "on" night. I honestly think the COllazo that fought Berto would have even given Mayweather or PAcquiao a ton of problems. A guy who could almost match their handspeed, throw 1000+ punches with a solid chin. Its like a welterweight Calzaghe.
Re: Berto Vs. Quintana April 10th
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Taeth
I see Collazo as the superior fighter to Quintana. I honestly think the only reason people think Collazo isn't all that is because he hurt his left hand early against Mosley because in those first three rounds he was doing better than mosley was in the fight. ONce he stopped throwing with conviction Mosley could do whatever he wanted and knew Collazo was throwing punches short. He has considerably faster hands than Quintana, and he has a much higher output and a much better chin. I think output bothers Berto more than technical skill because when Berto fights a technical fighter he fights more technical himself (like against Forbes) or when Collazo tried to box against Berto, Andre controlled him really easily on the outside with that speed.
Truthfully, a Collazo-Quintana is a great Puerto Rican welterweight scrap. What's up with Collazo btw?
Re: Berto Vs. Quintana April 10th
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Rantcatrat
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Taeth
I see Collazo as the superior fighter to Quintana. I honestly think the only reason people think Collazo isn't all that is because he hurt his left hand early against Mosley because in those first three rounds he was doing better than mosley was in the fight. ONce he stopped throwing with conviction Mosley could do whatever he wanted and knew Collazo was throwing punches short. He has considerably faster hands than Quintana, and he has a much higher output and a much better chin. I think output bothers Berto more than technical skill because when Berto fights a technical fighter he fights more technical himself (like against Forbes) or when Collazo tried to box against Berto, Andre controlled him really easily on the outside with that speed.
Truthfully, a Collazo-Quintana is a great Puerto Rican welterweight scrap. What's up with Collazo btw?
he's apparently in talks to fight undefeated Selcuk Aydin for some interim title
Re: Berto Vs. Quintana April 10th
Re: Berto Vs. Quintana April 10th
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ElTerribleMorales
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Rantcatrat
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Taeth
I see Collazo as the superior fighter to Quintana. I honestly think the only reason people think Collazo isn't all that is because he hurt his left hand early against Mosley because in those first three rounds he was doing better than mosley was in the fight. ONce he stopped throwing with conviction Mosley could do whatever he wanted and knew Collazo was throwing punches short. He has considerably faster hands than Quintana, and he has a much higher output and a much better chin. I think output bothers Berto more than technical skill because when Berto fights a technical fighter he fights more technical himself (like against Forbes) or when Collazo tried to box against Berto, Andre controlled him really easily on the outside with that speed.
Truthfully, a Collazo-Quintana is a great Puerto Rican welterweight scrap. What's up with Collazo btw?
he's apparently in talks to fight undefeated
Selcuk Aydin for some interim title
Really? I would love to see that, Aydin is one dimensional, but he is a wrecking ball. I really want to see Collazo back in the ring soon!