How much do you REALLY know about boxing???

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Everyone in boxing uses the internet these days - boxers, trainers, managers, promoters the lot.

As for fans knowledge - it has nothing to do with being in a gym, knowing fighters or being involved with people in the trade.

You don't have to experience being punched in the face to form an opinion. Some fighters/trainers are terrible fight pickers.

Anyone can research and become an expert on the history of boxing. No different to taking an interest in anything.

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Has nothing to do with history of boxing I mean you can read a book for that..

I actually own a boxing Encyclopedia...
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Has nothing to do with being hit...More or less had to do with how do you get your knowledge..

EG- I mean can someone carry a conversation without looking up replies on Boxrec? That type of thing

There is a difference between looking things up and studying them be it internet or elsewhere or fact checking and having to take time out to look up a reply on a question

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Everyone in boxing uses the internet these days - boxers, trainers, managers, promoters the lot.

As for fans knowledge - it has nothing to do with being in a gym, knowing fighters or being involved with people in the trade.

You don't have to experience being punched in the face to form an opinion. Some fighters/trainers are terrible fight pickers.

Anyone can research and become an expert on the history of boxing. No different to taking an interest in anything.

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Has nothing to do with history of boxing I mean you can read a book for that..

I actually own a boxing Encyclopedia...
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Has nothing to do with being hit...More or less had to do with how do you get your knowledge..

EG- I mean can someone carry a conversation without looking up replies on Boxrec? That type of thing

There is a difference between looking things up and studying them be it internet or elsewhere or fact checking and having to take time out to look up a reply on a question

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Oh right. But people arguing on the internet would be foolish to not use boxrec and the like. If you state incorrect things you look like a chump. A couple of seconds clicking makes you look like a genius ;)

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...cons/icon1.gif Re: How much do you REALLY know about boxing???
As far as physical aspect and performing the craft...next to nothing.Have stepped into a professionally run gym twice in my entire life.Both in Va.Beach.Have stepped into the ring both times and just slapped boxed around.Never officially spared,never received instruction and frankly never took advantage of vast surroundings to learn and soak up the knowledge of the ones who's company I was in at the time......my physical participation to any thing "boxing" related consist of home implimentation....A heavy bag at work...one at home and gloves we put on to knock around in the backyard,not school yard right hand happy crap....but def not serious studied proper footwork etc aspects.More or less I know what I am and I know what I am not...and thats a professional prize fighter,besides I'm too old and fat for that now HA.Mainly work the bag alot for cardio,flexibility,work many muscles that may go dormant and it is a GREAT stress relief,done properly.

As far as an observer and 'arm chair warrior' if you will.Quite simply I am an addict.Its my tar heroin.Started watching late in age,17,18 I believe on ABC wide world of sports and ESPN in 87'.Originally followed Baseball and scored games,kept stats on everything.After a year it was bye bye baseball and full time boxing junkie.No internet,no computer so I kept 5x8 bio cards on every fighter featured,newspaper articles and notebooks be they a super star or some 5-5 club fighter.Gathered info through all publications,Ring,KO,Boxing Illustrated,World boxing and newspapers,and Ralph citros record books and 'Fight fax inc'Had to call 900 #'s for global updates and started trading/buying tapes in 90'.Ive joked that I was forming a Box-rec before it existed and somehow let technology pass me by.Quit a very good job to do so and actually payed some bills for a while.Ultimately a dumb thing to do.The shit takes you over and blurs lines on reality and sports world.Had little to no internet-computer reliance up until a few years ago..long story.Found Saddo's one night looking for results (on dial up :bucktooth:) and wondered "who are all of these over seas fighters Ive never heard of".Made an account that night,no floating and jumped right in.Has not been the same since and cannot imagine following this sport with no internet...damn near impossible and a lonely azz task.We have a great thing in the instant availability and living in the 'now' with the sport as opposed to what many here remember in the past.After all until recently the major networks did not exactly scramble to cover the fights.Ive recently canceled Cable tv last month and have not seen a live fight in three weeks (streams a rarity or fail often it seems) but make due.Have rethought this decision as I feel like I'm having with drawls ;D.Shite...quite the novel here,need coffee.

In addition to my previous posts.
In terms of forming opinions of fights/fighters etc, that always comes from me. I won't just take someone elses opinion and use it as my own. And I don't comment on matters that I don't feel I can contribute to. Any opinion I express on a fight or a fighter comes from my analysis on that particular fighter or fight. But in terms of keeping up to date with the latest news and whatnot that comes from places like this.

Well, I don't box like YB does and I don't go to watch fights like CMM....but I do follow boxing as a hobby and having been on this site for nigh on half a decade and having had a fair bit of interest before I joined up, I would say I know a bit about boxing. There are others here who follow things more closely than I do and others who have more encyclopedic knowledge than I do, but I think I hold my own on the fighters and areas that hold my own interest.

The internet has been a wonderful tool for boxing fans in that we can get hold of pretty much any fight and quickly too. This access to fights has been vital in maintaining a relatively informed boxing public. The problem with the internet is in all the gossiping and rumour spreading, but we should learn to rise above that really.

I can't remember the last time I picked a fight wrong. :oooh:

I just watch fights. I don't even read much on the internet or Ring mag anymore. I don't even consider myself a hardcore boxing fan anymore honestly. Well I guess I'm fairly hardcore, anybody that watches FNF is I guess. But its not close to my favorite sport anymore. I don't go to many fights, like at all (not out of lack of interest, I just live in a boxing graveyard.)

I talked to a guy who got jacked up by Audley Harrison in 2. I was pretty good at sock gloves boxing when I was a kid. I was a volume puncher, just head down throwing hooks.

Well I am 22 years old now. I began watching boxing with my Dad when I was about 12. I believe the first fight I watched and really paid attention to was Holyfield vs. Lewis II. Then Mosley vs. Delahoya and so on.

On TV I've watched easily over 1,000 fights, probably around 1,500. I watch all that I can be it, ESPN 2, Showbox, FSN, HDNET, and HBO and PPV.

Yes I've really been in a gym and done more than hit a heavy bag. lol

I first learned to box properly from a boxing trainer who himself had 80 amatuer fights and was 13th in the nation and #1 in the state of California at one time.

Since then I've boxed and trained for 2 years at the MMA gym in my town because that is the only fighting gym we have.

I've sparred hundreds of rounds, with anyone who would spar me, including pro MMA fighters.

As far as fights go I have had 3 "smokers" which are unofficial amatuer boxing matches with 16 oz gloves and headgear and only 3, 2 min rounds.

Two of my opponents were pro MMA fighters. The first outweighed me by a good 25 lbs of muscle and that was a hell of a fight that I am very proud of. lol

And I get all my boxing news from here, ESPN 2, and Yahoo sports.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Everyone in boxing uses the internet these days - boxers, trainers, managers, promoters the lot.

As for fans knowledge - it has nothing to do with being in a gym, knowing fighters or being involved with people in the trade.

You don't have to experience being punched in the face to form an opinion. Some fighters/trainers are terrible fight pickers.

Anyone can research and become an expert on the history of boxing. No different to taking an interest in anything.

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Has nothing to do with history of boxing I mean you can read a book for that..

I actually own a boxing Encyclopedia...
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Has nothing to do with being hit...More or less had to do with how do you get your knowledge..

EG- I mean can someone carry a conversation without looking up replies on Boxrec? That type of thing

There is a difference between looking things up and studying them be it internet or elsewhere or fact checking and having to take time out to look up a reply on a question

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Oh right. But people arguing on the internet would be foolish to not use boxrec and the like. If you state incorrect things you look like a chump. A couple of seconds clicking makes you look like a genius ;)

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Hence the point...If that is how one goes about it then they don't know what their talking about

This was just a topic of curiosity...I think I said several times in several post I am not trying to make anyone look stupid or put anyone down..

You on the other hand I am sure get the point of the topic and are just looking to cause some drama and hopefully an argument....So pretty much i am done discussing this with you and I am not going to feed into your bullshit,,

So take some rep and thanks for your input

Generally I have pretty good knowledge on the sport with regards to fighter's accomplishments, records and history on the boxing stars of past and present, but kind of hazy and probably need the internet on lesser known fighters like a Malinaggi or Chuvalo type. Been following boxing since the late 80s when my older brothers got me hooked. It was Tyson-Bruno I that did it for me. Probably my 2nd favorite sport to follow after the NFL.

As far as knowing the ins and outs of being in a boxing ring, slipping a punch, or getting dazed and trying to buy time for the round to end, things like that, then I know next to nothing. I've only been to a boxing gym probably 4 or 5 times in my life. Like another poster here, I do have a heavy bag, speed bag, and boxing gloves at home. I'm no expert on it but find it to be a great cardiovascular exercise.

I've been to a few fights in my life such as the De La Hoya-Quartey fight, Mayweather-Jesus Chavez fight, Mosley-De La Hoya I, etc. Mainly nose bleed seats, but it was a fun atmosphere to be in.

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Originally Posted by Hulk

Well I am 22 years old now. I began watching boxing with my Dad when I was about 12. I believe the first fight I watched and really paid attention to was Holyfield vs. Lewis II. Then Mosley vs. Delahoya and so on.

On TV I've watched easily over 1,000 fights, probably around 1,500. I watch all that I can be it, ESPN 2, Showbox, FSN, HDNET, and HBO and PPV.

Yes I've really been in a gym and done more than hit a heavy bag. lol

I first learned to box properly from a boxing trainer who himself had 80 amatuer fights and was 13th in the nation and #1 in the state of California at one time.

Since then I've boxed and trained for 2 years at the MMA gym in my town because that is the only fighting gym we have.

I've sparred hundreds of rounds, with anyone who would spar me, including pro MMA fighters.

As far as fights go I have had 3 "smokers" which are unofficial amatuer boxing matches with 16 oz gloves and headgear and only 3, 2 min rounds.

Two of my opponents were pro MMA fighters. The first outweighed me by a good 25 lbs of muscle and that was a hell of a fight that I am very proud of. lol

And I get all my boxing news from here, ESPN 2, and Yahoo sports.

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Yeah that how I started off as well watching with my Dad....Ali Vs Spinks 1 was my first actual fight

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Has nothing to do with history of boxing I mean you can read a book for that..

I actually own a boxing Encyclopedia...
\
Has nothing to do with being hit...More or less had to do with how do you get your knowledge..

EG- I mean can someone carry a conversation without looking up replies on Boxrec? That type of thing

There is a difference between looking things up and studying them be it internet or elsewhere or fact checking and having to take time out to look up a reply on a question

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Oh right. But people arguing on the internet would be foolish to not use boxrec and the like. If you state incorrect things you look like a chump. A couple of seconds clicking makes you look like a genius ;)

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Hence the point...If that is how one goes about it then they don't know what their talking about

This was just a topic of curiosity...I think I said several times in several post I am not trying to make anyone look stupid or put anyone down..

You on the other hand I am sure get the point of the topic and are just looking to cause some drama and hopefully an argument....So pretty much i am done discussing this with you and I am not going to feed into your bullshit,,

So take some rep and thanks for your input

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I haven't got a clue what you're pissed about. Sorry :-\

Did someone beat you in an online debate that you think you would have won man to man?

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

I am just wondering how some people get their information on boxing....

I mean how long have you been watching the sport, how many fights have you really seen be it in person or video, have you ever really been in a gym other then a few times hitting the bag...Do you actually know any fighters and that does not mean third hand because you know a guy who knows a guy.....Can you actually get into a debate on a fighters career without having to look at boxrec to see if they won or lost a fight?....

Seriously though I am wondering because it seems so many people these days actually know little about boxing itself other then what they get off the internet yet they will try to debate things as if they know it first hand...

EG- When someone says Fighter A wants X amount of dollars to face Fighter B and a ring size of 16X16...But Fighter B states they wont fight in a ring less then 20X20..

Where do you get your info from?...Website, ESPN, chatroom, Reliable news source like a newspaper or do you get it from Forums and gossip columns

It what you are saying based on REAL boxing knowledge or all second hand info

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I haven't been watching boxing very long (since about 2005 I think), but I feel my opinions are legitimate. I've been in a boxing gym, I've sparred, but that is as far as I've gone in regards to competing. I don't know any professional fighters, but I do know an amateur Canadian National Champion :p. Kinda.

As for the news I get regarding the sport, the only other site I regularly look at aside from Saddo's is Fightnews. I occasionally peruse Boxingtalk for the interviews, but they're so ridiculously biased that almost everything on that site is useless.

I don't think the legitimacy of someone's argument or the depth of their understanding of the sport is predicated on experience or the result of years of study and I certainly do not buy the elitist view that someone needs to be involved "in the buis" (sorry, couldn't resist) to have a deep understanding of the game or to formulate solid opinions.

I haven't looked at boxingtalk in ages. There was actually a period of about a year (that coincided with my joining here) where I was obsessed with the sport and learning as much as possible about it as I could so I think I do know a fair bit but the last few years I've just been coasting on that previous knowledge.

CFH, are you insinuating that you know as much as TM? :mad:

How many of you people know as much as I do about Niccolino Loche? Who was James Toney's first trainer? Which fighter did TM want an apology from in blood?

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I haven't looked at boxingtalk in ages. There was actually a period of about a year (that coincided with my joining here) where I was obsessed with the sport and learning as much as possible about it as I could so I think I do know a fair bit but the last few years I've just been coasting on that previous knowledge.

CFH, are you insinuating that you know as much as TM? :mad:

How many of you people know as much as I do about Niccolino Loche? Who was James Toney's first trainer? Which fighter did TM want an apology from in blood?

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Not at all man, I'm not "in the buis"

Why would you write it as "buis" anyways? Business is spelled with the "i" following the "s", not before.

None of you, Bill Miller, Anthony Mora (and he wanted it written in Mora's blood, not somebody else's.)