Kevin Johnson the biggest retard in boxing??

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Originally Posted by ninjaspy3

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Originally Posted by ninjaspy3

Ok. I'm going play devil's advocate since everyone else wants to hate on Johnson.

So Kevin Johnson, a name many people did not even know before the fight with Vitali, comes in without the proper experience level, and tries to fight Vitali. Everyone who knew boxing, knew he didn't have the fights under his belt to warrant a fight with Vitali.

Then when Johnson goes in there and chooses not to get KO'd, then everyone wants to hate on him.

Now lets be logical about this: lacking experience and lacking power, what other option would Johnson have then to either get KO'd or try not to get KO'd? So what he tried not to get KO'd? He was not going to outbox or KO Vitali. EVERYONE knows this and yet everyone wants to jump on the hate johnson bandwagon. Who decided to throw Johnson in with Vitali anyway? I mean seriously. Maybe Johnson was just supposed to be another KO on Vitali's record or what?

And so now we have this message from his website. It's just Hype people. Who doesn't know that. Come on. It's Hype. What other choices does Johnson have? It's for publicity.

-If- you want to be logical about it all, obviously what should have happened was that Johnson should have fought some lower level names 1st. At least 3 or so before the fight with Vitali even came as a possibility. Then at least there would be more validity for the Johnson hating. But as it stands,

I refuse to jump on the "Hate Johnson" bandwagon

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....anyone wish to dispute the point that I was trying to make though?
To put some logic behind the "class b retard" remarks?

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What are you talking about?? The guy is a retard living in a dream world have a look at some the shit he spouted, apparently according to him he " busted Vitali open " Clowns like him need to shut the fuck up with shit like that.

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Originally Posted by skel1983

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Originally Posted by ninjaspy3

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Originally Posted by ninjaspy3

Ok. I'm going play devil's advocate since everyone else wants to hate on Johnson.

So Kevin Johnson, a name many people did not even know before the fight with Vitali, comes in without the proper experience level, and tries to fight Vitali. Everyone who knew boxing, knew he didn't have the fights under his belt to warrant a fight with Vitali.

Then when Johnson goes in there and chooses not to get KO'd, then everyone wants to hate on him.

Now lets be logical about this: lacking experience and lacking power, what other option would Johnson have then to either get KO'd or try not to get KO'd? So what he tried not to get KO'd? He was not going to outbox or KO Vitali. EVERYONE knows this and yet everyone wants to jump on the hate johnson bandwagon. Who decided to throw Johnson in with Vitali anyway? I mean seriously. Maybe Johnson was just supposed to be another KO on Vitali's record or what?

And so now we have this message from his website. It's just Hype people. Who doesn't know that. Come on. It's Hype. What other choices does Johnson have? It's for publicity.

-If- you want to be logical about it all, obviously what should have happened was that Johnson should have fought some lower level names 1st. At least 3 or so before the fight with Vitali even came as a possibility. Then at least there would be more validity for the Johnson hating. But as it stands,

I refuse to jump on the "Hate Johnson" bandwagon

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....anyone wish to dispute the point that I was trying to make though?
To put some logic behind the "class b retard" remarks?

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What are you talking about?? The guy is a retard living in a dream world have a look at some the shit he spouted, apparently according to him he " busted Vitali open " Clowns like him need to shut the fuck up with shit like that.

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You are serious arent you? It's hype man! It's a show. That's all.

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Originally Posted by ninjaspy3

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Originally Posted by skel1983

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Originally Posted by ninjaspy3

....anyone wish to dispute the point that I was trying to make though?
To put some logic behind the "class b retard" remarks?

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What are you talking about?? The guy is a retard living in a dream world have a look at some the shit he spouted, apparently according to him he " busted Vitali open " Clowns like him need to shut the fuck up with shit like that.

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You are serious arent you? It's hype man! It's a show. That's all.

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This is a forum mate, where fans discuss different aspects of Boxing and share there opinion, now my opinion and many others within this thread think Johnson is a retard for coming out with shit like he did. We no what Johnson is but maybe we should just keep our opinions to ourself in the future? It's only a forum after all :rolleyes:

Actually,

I'm going to explain this fully here and now just so it's out there.

Before the fight even took place:

All of the talking Johnson did was just to hype the fight up.
I doubt that he seriously believes what he says for this hype. It's just a show.
I am pretty sure he knew he would not win.
Whatever his reason for taking the fight... we may never know, but I'm pretty sure he knew the deal.

Now, after the fight, since he is not retiring soon, he will obviously have more fights - therefore - he must generate interest.
Hence, the hype that you are seeing now from his page.
It is just 1 method (as there are many ways) to generate attention.

When you see this sort of thing, keep that in mind. Many boxers do this.
Talking bigger than they are. This is not new. Not all boxers use this but some do. It's not new.

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Originally Posted by killersheep

I didn't realize a torn bicep would cause you to lay up on the ropes and nod your head a lot.

Johnson, can beat a lot of b-level fighters still, so he is still semi-relevant to the division. But yeah, have yet to hear from any of his fans?

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I went to the website and hit the media section....Every article is from ESB:-\...

Maybe that is where his fans are :D.....Poor Kevin :vd:

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Originally Posted by ninjaspy3

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Originally Posted by ninjaspy3

Ok. I'm going play devil's advocate since everyone else wants to hate on Johnson.

So Kevin Johnson, a name many people did not even know before the fight with Vitali, comes in without the proper experience level, and tries to fight Vitali. Everyone who knew boxing, knew he didn't have the fights under his belt to warrant a fight with Vitali.

Then when Johnson goes in there and chooses not to get KO'd, then everyone wants to hate on him.

Now lets be logical about this: lacking experience and lacking power, what other option would Johnson have then to either get KO'd or try not to get KO'd? So what he tried not to get KO'd? He was not going to outbox or KO Vitali. EVERYONE knows this and yet everyone wants to jump on the hate johnson bandwagon. Who decided to throw Johnson in with Vitali anyway? I mean seriously. Maybe Johnson was just supposed to be another KO on Vitali's record or what?

And so now we have this message from his website. It's just Hype people. Who doesn't know that. Come on. It's Hype. What other choices does Johnson have? It's for publicity.

-If- you want to be logical about it all, obviously what should have happened was that Johnson should have fought some lower level names 1st. At least 3 or so before the fight with Vitali even came as a possibility. Then at least there would be more validity for the Johnson hating. But as it stands,

I refuse to jump on the "Hate Johnson" bandwagon

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....anyone wish to dispute the point that I was trying to make though?
To put some logic behind the "class b retard" remarks?

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It has NOTHING to do with the points you were trying to make....

It was just based on his comments is all....He acted like a tool during the fight, after the fight and in the media......that is where the whole Retard thing is coming from

Besides what does Ninjaspies 1 and 2 have to say about it all

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

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Originally Posted by ninjaspy3

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Originally Posted by ninjaspy3

Ok. I'm going play devil's advocate since everyone else wants to hate on Johnson.

So Kevin Johnson, a name many people did not even know before the fight with Vitali, comes in without the proper experience level, and tries to fight Vitali. Everyone who knew boxing, knew he didn't have the fights under his belt to warrant a fight with Vitali.

Then when Johnson goes in there and chooses not to get KO'd, then everyone wants to hate on him.

Now lets be logical about this: lacking experience and lacking power, what other option would Johnson have then to either get KO'd or try not to get KO'd? So what he tried not to get KO'd? He was not going to outbox or KO Vitali. EVERYONE knows this and yet everyone wants to jump on the hate johnson bandwagon. Who decided to throw Johnson in with Vitali anyway? I mean seriously. Maybe Johnson was just supposed to be another KO on Vitali's record or what?

And so now we have this message from his website. It's just Hype people. Who doesn't know that. Come on. It's Hype. What other choices does Johnson have? It's for publicity.

-If- you want to be logical about it all, obviously what should have happened was that Johnson should have fought some lower level names 1st. At least 3 or so before the fight with Vitali even came as a possibility. Then at least there would be more validity for the Johnson hating. But as it stands,

I refuse to jump on the "Hate Johnson" bandwagon

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....anyone wish to dispute the point that I was trying to make though?
To put some logic behind the "class b retard" remarks?

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It has NOTHING to do with the points you were trying to make....

It was just based on his comments is all....He acted like a tool during the fight, after the fight and in the media......that is where the whole Retard thing is coming from

Besides what does Ninjaspies 1 and 2 have to say about it all

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You have missed the point I was trying to make. The acting a tool is just show boating. Creating a spectacle for the purpose of creating publicity.
Naturally good publicity is better than bad publicity. But bad publicity is better tha none.

So, Johnson went from a relatively unknown to a somewhat more known due to the Vitali fight and his antics. This is simply a part of the whole act. Why do you think none of this was going on -before- the Vitali fight? It's because this is all a publicity move. So, the horse should be sufficiently dead now.

KJ NO.1 FAN! RIGHT HERE!.......MAYBE HIS ONLY FAN...;D

who is this guy?

He is playing the game, getting attention and hoping for another shot and pay day, hoping you ll forget his pitiful performance. The US version of Audley Harrison.

Well... one has the right to dream, right? it's a bit like Charlie Zelenoff believing that there is a z-train following him somewhere somehow.

Johnson wasted everyones time, and wasted the very scarce opportunity to challenge for the heavyweight title. He took that spot from some other fighter, who may have actually tried to win the fight.

Now, he thinks he will somehow get that golden opportunity again. Never. He committed the unforgivable sin of cowardice. He was too afraid to get hurt, so he didn't even try win.


I think the title of the thread is appropriate.

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Originally Posted by ninjaspy3

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Originally Posted by ninjaspy3

....anyone wish to dispute the point that I was trying to make though?
To put some logic behind the "class b retard" remarks?

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It has NOTHING to do with the points you were trying to make....

It was just based on his comments is all....He acted like a tool during the fight, after the fight and in the media......that is where the whole Retard thing is coming from

Besides what does Ninjaspies 1 and 2 have to say about it all

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You have missed the point I was trying to make. The acting a tool is just show boating. Creating a spectacle for the purpose of creating publicity.
Naturally good publicity is better than bad publicity. But bad publicity is better tha none.

So, Johnson went from a relatively unknown to a somewhat more known due to the Vitali fight and his antics. This is simply a part of the whole act. Why do you think none of this was going on -before- the Vitali fight? It's because this is all a publicity move. So, the horse should be sufficiently dead now.

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Sorry bud but it was going on way before the Vitali fight, he was making little press releases fro sometime saying fighters like Haye and the Klits are avoiding him while he carried on fighting cab drivers in the local school gym, do a bit more research next time matey ;).

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