The only good things about the Pac-Clottey fight was...

Well another good thing about the fight was that it exceeded the 45,000 seat limit and maxed out at close to 51,000 in attendance. Let's see an MMA event rival that. Fat chance. Hell I'm certain that a Floyd-Pac fight would sell out at any outdoor stadium, Lesnar and Fedor fighting probably couldn't do that.

Clottey just doesn't have that extra something. He had his many chances in several fights to show it. Congrats Pac. I'll chalk this one up as a "stay busy" fight for Pac. Even though it was more like working on the heavybag.

I thought Clottey fought his usual fight. His problem was, Pac is just an incredible elite fighter.

There were plenty of occasions Clottey got in position to throw the uppercut he was looking for, yet ended up getting machine gunned out of there. If he'd taken more of a chance he'd have been stopped, which I think dawned on him early in the fight.

Another great showing by Pac.

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

Well another good thing about the fight was that it exceeded the 45,000 seat limit and maxed out at close to 51,000 in attendance. Let's see an MMA event rival that. Fat chance. Hell I'm certain that a Floyd-Pac fight would sell out at any outdoor stadium, Lesnar and Fedor fighting probably couldn't do that.

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Yeah, but wouldn't you agree that for the attendance that was a pretty piss poor night of boxing? Kinda bad when if the world is watching and you put on a crap performance if anything it will make people slide MORE to MMA

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Originally Posted by Majesty

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

Well another good thing about the fight was that it exceeded the 45,000 seat limit and maxed out at close to 51,000 in attendance. Let's see an MMA event rival that. Fat chance. Hell I'm certain that a Floyd-Pac fight would sell out at any outdoor stadium, Lesnar and Fedor fighting probably couldn't do that.

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Yeah, but wouldn't you agree that for the attendance that was a pretty piss poor night of boxing? Kinda bad when if the world is watching and you put on a crap performance if anything it will make people slide MORE to MMA

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I'm pretty sure the vast majority of those 50,000 punters were thrilled with the fight - Pac was the seller. And certain they'd weigh-in again.

Plus the world wasn't watching from the TV side. That fight would not have gone close to breaking any PPV records.

I thought Pacquaio really got hit more than he could have or should have. The main thing he was getting hit with was that left uppercut, at least late, and it only happened when he just sat on the inside, with his foot speed and movement there was no reason to just be a sitting duck in there at times. But they didn't seem to bother him and maybe that had something to do with it, starting to think one of the more underrated things about him is his chin. The body shot KO was like a decade ago and other than that he just doesn't get hurt much. Strangely enough it was guys like Nedal Hussein, Oscar Larios that have seemingly bothered him as much as anybody.

I'm probably in the wrong thread, not like anybody's discussing any of this stuff. :shakehead:

There's some wonderful quotes from Arum in this article about last night's fight & a possible fight with Mayweather. Seriously I don't know how he gets so little blame for it all going south on that negotiation.

No sense in ducking Pacquiao-Mayweather - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports

Here's the highlights from Arum's burst of verbal shitspewing

“There was no way Clottey was going to beat this guy, even if he took off his gloves and fought him bare-fisted,” Bob Arum, the fight’s promoter.

“You don’t negotiate,” Arum said, bringing up World War II history. “Neville Chamberlain negotiated with Hitler in Munich and look what happened.”

I can't believe he actually compared Mayweather to Hitler :vd:

Not to mention that he basically told us he sold everyone a sparring session. After him telling the fans they could 'go fuck themselves' regarding a Lopez/Gamboa fight, he really is on a roll. I hate this bastard so much.

Oh yeah & I agree with everything OumaFan said. Not that anyone is discussing it.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy G-Force

Full credit to Manny for forcing the fight and taking risks, but it takes two to tango, and Clottey had cleary forgotten his dancing shoes. To be honest I was disgusted in Clottey. The biggest opportunity of his life, his 'Miracle' fight and he hides in his shell like a narcoleptic Tortoise for 36 minutes. Pathetic.

Bearing in mind Clottey's background, and the notoriously brutal upbringing in Accra, this guy had no fight in him. He outweighed Manny by nearly two weight divisions on the night, and still didnt show the bottle to try and at least make it a fight. There was so many times Manny let his hands go in bunches and looked downstairs to finish off the combinations. Where was the big right hand counter ? I'll tell you where, covering his face like a bad case of acne.

I have no doubt that if Clottey had at least attempted to throw some leather he could have had some success. To sit there, content in surviving against a much smaller foe is shameless in my book. Jim Watt and even Darkie were talking shite throughout that fight, and I love Darkie, but come on ? Courageous and brave Clottey ? WTF !!! ???

Cotto was brave and courageous, Clottey was a fucking coward. At first I thought or more so hoped that Clottey was just weathering the early storm and would come on strong in the second half of the fight, using his size and strength, but no, fuck all.

Disgraceful from Clottey who shouldnt be given another shot like this as long as he lives. That may sound harsh, but it was called the 'Event', the only thing vented was my anger at such a bitch poor showing from Joshua.

Roll on Floyd and Shane, that fight didnt do boxing any favours.

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I agree, very disappointed with Clottey in this fight. From the moment the fight began he was in survival mode, he got the paypacket and just wanted to go the distance. Clottey shouldn't get another big fight after that lacklustre performance, it was a weak effort.

Fenster's right though, its the same guy that beat Cotto on my scorecard (well, the second time I watched it) and could have easily beaten him (there's the rub obviously, he always COULD do better). He's a tough out for most welters, but he'll never be elite. Still I guarantee he'll have people on here speculating on how good he'll be when he wakes up when he'll NEVER wake up. Fact. He is what he is to use a stupid phrase.

Clottey covered up and took very little chances. He didn't want to risk getting knocked out or risk winning. Theres no two ways about it. Pacquaio made it a fairly exciting fight but Clottey didn't even try to win.

Azumah Nelson would have FOUGHT Pacquaio. Thats for damn sure.

And despite HBO's bashing of Ike Quartey. I believe Ike would have put up a much better fight against Pac man as well.

On that effort i see Clottey taking the same path as another tough fighter in Ben Tackie. Being tough and taking a punch won't win you to many fights unless you fight back!

fight also shows pacquiao really got a chin. he ate some good uppercuts from clottey.

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Originally Posted by Pugilistic

People on here are saying Clottey didn't throw enough punches.

How can Clottey throw when he has to protect himself from Pacquiao's constant speedy attacks ? Is he supposed to just leave himself open to get some shots in ?

When Pacquiao wasn't on his case, he did throw and land.

Throughout the fight though, Clottey was simply not able to fight at the pace Pacquiao was, and Pacquiao's footwork and speed made it harder for Clottey to close the gap.

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How ANYONE could defend Clottey's disgraceful performance Saturday night is beyond me. If you ask me, he should have had at least 50% of his purse withheld. You don't want to fight and give the fans a show for their hard-earned money? Then F-You. Here's half your money... now shove off before I change my mind.

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Originally Posted by toe2toe

fight also shows pacquiao really got a chin. he ate some good uppercuts from clottey.

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when was the last time Clottey scored a KO ?

this fight also shows that pacquiao doesn't know how to coast. he's dominating clottey for 11 rounds and he's still looking for a ko in the last round.