He clearly was acting. He was on his way to being KO'ed. Abraham was getting stronger, and the ref clearly stole a knock down from him. That fight would have ended in the 11th.
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He clearly was acting. He was on his way to being KO'ed. Abraham was getting stronger, and the ref clearly stole a knock down from him. That fight would have ended in the 11th.
I do think Dirrell did do an acting job BUT like one guy said earlier it was still a clear foul and all Dirrell had to say was that he couldn't continue. Just like Montell Griffin acted his way to a win against RJJ. Dirrell did a better acting job by the way. Dirrell should've just took the time out and danced the last 1 and a half rounds away. Its a lot harder to catch Dirrell than probably any other fighter, especially while having the fight won, so Abraham had a much slimmer chance than catching a JT. Anyway, I think the 2 Andres gave brilliant performances against guys favored to win the whole thing. This kept the tournament up for grabs.
Would of, could of.....Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleskins
didn't.
Irrelevent.
Thanks for your contribution.
Sorry, Im tired of arguing the same thing over and over and then someone comes and posts the exact same false logic again.
@NinjaSpy
I like your arguments in the official fight thread but read the title of this thread "Why would Dirrell need to act, he was going to win anyway" a hypotheical statement the poster is simply replying by stating that Dirrel had no legs and was backpedaling to the ropes and was about to be stopped by Abraham if it were not for the DQ
For those saying "he acted and should have just gotten up and fought, but instead took the DQ" what sport are you watching...ITS A FOUL!!!!
That's like after Tyson bit Holyfield, tyson's camp argued "The ear has nothing to do with boxing, it won't impede his punching or nothing and he could have continued"...How about next time they just let AA get a free punch with knockout power behind it at the start of the fight, then if Dirrel manages to get up we'll have a clean fight because the fight will surely be even after that....:rolleyes:
But you see, in reply to the thread title, the real question is "How much does one need to act to have the opponent DQ'd?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Truth
....I wasn't aware that -any- acting was necessary for this to occur. I believe a DQ is issued in response to an illegal action.
Hence: "Why would he need to act if he was going to win?"
Answer: He didn't need to act.
exactly...Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjaspy3But you see, in reply to the thread title, the real question is "How much does one need to act to have the opponent DQ'd?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Truth
....I wasn't aware that -any- acting was necessary for this to occur. I believe a DQ is issued in response to an illegal action.
Hence: "Why would he need to act if he was going to win?"
Answer: He didn't need to act.
I interpreted the question differently, the wonderful direct english language once again :rolleyes: going by the question you were attempting to answer. Yes he didn't need to Act.. Abraham was already Dq'd but his absolutely laughable antics were embarassing (he obviously wanted no bit of fighting again... yes even though the fight was over) All people on the forum are pointing out is though Dirrell was hit with a CHEAP shot he obviously wanted to ues it to get out of that ring ASAP. I've seen people KO'd they're all quiet a little shellshocked and very calm to get up Dirrell rushed up started yelling let me breathe and behaved like a little child.
and a knockdown was not given to Dirrell either.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleskins
Dirrell was beating that ass, clearly hit em when he did the splits off the slick canvas ad.
Abraham was acting pretty good actually with the so called low blows. Many of those punches were just deflected from his defense.
Abraham got shown up for what he is, a small, strong, slow 1 dimensional fighter.
Hes done well against middle weights, including a shot middleweight Jermain Taylor but as soon as he fights a genuine supermiddle he gets shown up, he got dropped, cut shoved around and outboxed, he looked shiit;D
I dont think he would have KO'd Dirrell had the fight gone on, I dont think his power is going to look anywhere near as effective as it did against middleweights from now on.
As for that pretending everythings a low blow, what a girl!! Dirrell nearly caught him because of it when Andre realised the ref was paying no attention to Abraham and his pathetic low blow calls;D
Abraham has just fought probably the 2 weekest fighters in the tournament, its only going to get worse for him now;D
Ross Abraham has knocked his last 3 opponents out cold and you are questioning his power? LOl
He wasn't definitely going to win. He was leading and Abraham was putting it on.
Just seen it again now. Disgrace. He hits him, he looks back at Abraham, grabs his nose, takes a second to think about it, and then flops down and rolls round a little bit before starting the leg shaking routine.
On a side note i don't think i've ever witnessed so much one sided commentary. They barely even acknowledged Dirrell's knockdown, refusing to believe that the punch caused it. I can't believe that out of the commentary team, not one of them even questioned Dirrell's play-acting skills.
Dirrell is a 100% shithouse
What do you expect really?Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
All Amercians in Amercia in a fight between an Amercian vs a European. Abs was never going to get a fair share and was frustrated late in the fights because he had been the victim of an uncalled knockdown, recipient of low blows and a headbutt that opened a wound. In a neutral location he wouldnt have been treated like that. Same can be said for Kesslers fight with Ward.