Re: Have either Klitchko ever beaten anybody better than John Ruiz?
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Lyle
Here are the fights I rate as the best/biggest wins for the Klitschko's
Wlad: Sam Peter, Ruslan Chagaev (1st person to stop him), Chris Byrd X 2, Calvin Brock(1st person to stop him), Tony Thompson (1st person to stop him)
Vitali: Cris Arreola (1st person to stop him), Corrie Sanders, Sam Peter(1st person to stop him), Danny Williams
....if Ruiz would fit on anyone's top 3 it would have to be Vitali, because before fighting Lewis Vitali didn't have any top teir fighters on his record outside of Chris Byrd. The guys Wlad fought (that I listed) were all tough, they had awkward styles or big power and he wiped the floor with all of them.
I would add Sultan Ibragimov to Wlad's resume. He might be small and not a lot of power, but the guy can scrap. I think Sultan would take John.
Re: Have either Klitchko ever beaten anybody better than John Ruiz?
The problem with most of the "better" fighters on the Klitscho hit list is that most of them turned up (or didn't bother, depending on how you look at it) and then had the worst performances of their careers.
I can't remember the last fighter that looked prepared for the Klitscho 1-2 combo, all of the ones I can remember were like rabbits in headlights as they stood around and took a beating. Who was the last good aggresive fighter they fought? It's easy to fight someone who doesn't really fight back!
Re: Have either Klitchko ever beaten anybody better than John Ruiz?
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Originally Posted by
0james0
The problem with most of the "better" fighters on the Klitscho hit list is that most of them turned up (or didn't bother, depending on how you look at it) and then had the worst performances of their careers.
I can't remember the last fighter that looked prepared for the Klitscho 1-2 combo, all of the ones I can remember were like rabbits in headlights as they stood around and took a beating. Who was the last good aggresive fighter they fought? It's easy to fight someone who doesn't really fight back!
It's hard to fight back and not look like a deer caught up in headlights when you're getting your ass pummeled. Excuses aside, the Klit bros have better opposition on their record than David Haye. That's a fact.
Beating Barret, Valuev, and Ruiz doesn't make 1 have a better HW record than the Klit bros.
Re: Have either Klitchko ever beaten anybody better than John Ruiz?
Ruiz is far "greater" in a historical perspective than anybody on either guy's list except for Chris Byrd maybe(who has a TKO over Vitali remember). "Better" is just subjective I guess, but there's nobody that great on either guy's resume especially Vitali's and then you've got to take into account the Byrd TKO and the Pele Reid debacle.
Re: Have either Klitchko ever beaten anybody better than John Ruiz?
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Originally Posted by
OumaFan
Ruiz is far "greater" in a historical perspective than anybody on either guy's list except for Chris Byrd maybe(who has a TKO over Vitali remember). "Better" is just subjective I guess, but there's nobody that great on either guy's resume especially Vitali's and then you've got to take into account the Byrd TKO and the Pele Reid debacle.
As much as I dislike both Klitchsco brothers. Who else could they have fought? From memmory there haven't been many/any decent opposition for them in the last 10 years.
Even if there was, those fighters probably wouldn't have wanted to get in a ring with them anyway!
Re: Have either Klitchko ever beaten anybody better than John Ruiz?
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generalbulldog
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Originally Posted by
0james0
The problem with most of the "better" fighters on the Klitscho hit list is that most of them turned up (or didn't bother, depending on how you look at it) and then had the worst performances of their careers.
I can't remember the last fighter that looked prepared for the Klitscho 1-2 combo, all of the ones I can remember were like rabbits in headlights as they stood around and took a beating. Who was the last good aggresive fighter they fought? It's easy to fight someone who doesn't really fight back!
It's hard to fight back and not look like a deer caught up in headlights when you're getting your ass pummeled. Excuses aside, the Klit bros have better opposition on their record than David Haye. That's a fact.
Beating Barret, Valuev, and Ruiz doesn't make 1 have a better HW record than the Klit bros.
Thats true, but unifying the division below (every belt) including knocking out the french champion in France does count for something
Re: Have either Klitchko ever beaten anybody better than John Ruiz?
havent managed to get through this yet. Chagaev would probably be a similar scenario as to saturday night. Savvy fighter but lacks the physical attributes to bother haye.
Arreola for his power alone though haye would just run rings around him and would be far more active than vitali was leading to a much earlier stoppage. Same with chambers.
The klitschkos biggest challenge in their dominance is haye and haye alone, nothing else really needs thinking about
