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Haye is not the finished article yet.
He's learning the heavyweight trade with every round.
If he were to fight Wlad today, he'd probably get a beating. BUT, give him a crack at Vitaly and lets see where he goes from there.
I genuinely feel he has the ability and power. I just worry that the Klits years of experience could be his downfall.
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Originally Posted by paddy448
He was quite subdued too be honest, the closest thing I heard him say to trash talking was him sayin that ruiz won't go the distance. But that's clutching at straws really. Think their was genuine respect for ruiz from haye. I expect that mouth going overtime tho once the klit fights r signedQuote:
Originally Posted by Hunter
He was still giving it, just didnt have anything to work with as ruiz is the ultimate gent
Claimed before the fight ruiz was a horrible champ for boxing. Claimed in the pre fight interviews that the 2nd he landed his right on ruiz he`d be unconcious.
I remember lewis saying he was retiring because there was no one left to beat especially after he stopped vitali. After Haye fights the klits who's left? Ademek maybe? and if he beats them there is no one left in the division of any worth to fight. Haye and the klits have shown if you want to be a legit heavyweight you need to come in to the ring in shape. hopefully fighters will take note and the next generation of heavyweight fighters will be decent.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
I've no problem with haye doing even 2 more fights. as long as it's against wlad and vit then theres no one left to fight.
i hope so! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by hattont[quote=paddy448
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Originally Posted by paddy448. I expect that mouth going overtime tho once the klit fights r signedQuote:
Originally Posted by Hunter
I think you might see a more measured approach from Haye if either Klit deal is signed.
He has been using his mouth to raise his profile, and so far its worked. Look at the level of respect he showed Ruiz last week. No major slanging matches.
If he signs to fight a Klit, he'll show them the repect they deserve.
I know I wasnt the only one who thought Ruiz was out cold from that knockdown in the first round as he went down his legs were stiff, the moment he hit he looked ok, but I could have sworn from the second that shot landed i thought he was knocked outQuote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by paddy448He was quite subdued too be honest, the closest thing I heard him say to trash talking was him sayin that ruiz won't go the distance. But that's clutching at straws really. Think their was genuine respect for ruiz from haye. I expect that mouth going overtime tho once the klit fights r signedQuote:
Originally Posted by Hunter
He was still giving it, just didnt have anything to work with as ruiz is the ultimate gent
Claimed before the fight ruiz was a horrible champ for boxing. Claimed in the pre fight interviews that the 2nd he landed his right on ruiz he`d be unconcious.
Haye seems too muscle bound and was breathing heavy early on. He needs to work on his stamina and not on how good his body looks if he is to have any chance against the Klits. A peak Holyfield would have problems with them but he would take them into the trenches, which is where Haye can beat them. The punch should be his back up plan.
....don't forget the constant threat of decapitation!Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by paddy448He was quite subdued too be honest, the closest thing I heard him say to trash talking was him sayin that ruiz won't go the distance. But that's clutching at straws really. Think their was genuine respect for ruiz from haye. I expect that mouth going overtime tho once the klit fights r signedQuote:
Originally Posted by Hunter
He was still giving it, just didnt have anything to work with as ruiz is the ultimate gent
Claimed before the fight ruiz was a horrible champ for boxing. Claimed in the pre fight interviews that the 2nd he landed his right on ruiz he`d be unconcious.
It doesn't matter what that chump says to Wlad and Vitali anymore, (those guys especially Wlad) are pissed and they are out to punish this dude.
I'd give Wlad plenty of credit for beating Haye. Haye will be the first person since Sanders Wlad has fought that is decent in both handspeed and power. Not saying that is Wlads fault the division is the worst it has ever been.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
The problem is, when Haye beats Wlad I can guarantee you WILL NOT give him the credit he is due because you hate him, plain and simple.
...I doubt I'll have to, but I'll give him full creditQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
I actually think four more fights is ambitious, presuming he rematches Valuev next time before getting it on with a Klitschko I'd say he's got two.
Without training injuries or contractual problems he should be retired in time for Christmas.
Speaking of injuries...who the hell cuts their hand sparring???? Was he sparring with razors in his gloves?!?!?!
So on the WBA Champ injury list he has 1. Thrown his back out shadow boxing and 2. Cut his hand sparring.....it makes you wonder what is next