Re: UK Prime Ministerial candidate debate
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miles
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Howlin Mad Missy
didn't watch it all. Clegg came off best IMO. Will be voting lib dem.
I haven't seen it in full, but by all accounts it appears that Clegg was the only one saying anything remotely interesting. He is trying to set the Lib Dems apart as somewhat anti-establishment and I think it is the correct approach. People are not happy with Brown who represents the party of war and who was chancellor whilst the economic bubble was brewing. He is not a responsible leader and to try and paint himself as being so is false. Cameron provides no real alternative and TBH I see little distinction between Labour and Tory right now. The Lib Dems aren't massively different, but they are realistic about things and Clegg seems to have his head screwed on straight. I hope a lot of people do become swayed by him. Hung parliament or not, I want to see as many votes go to the Lib Dems as possible. It's time for a sea change in British politics. The main two parties have been too cosy for too long and it's time for the people to wake up and vote for real change. We all know what the Tories are and now Labour has shown us for too long what it is now about.
vote bnp???????????????????????????
i`ll get my coat
Re: UK Prime Ministerial candidate debate
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Originally Posted by
hattonthehammer
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
Howlin Mad Missy
didn't watch it all. Clegg came off best IMO. Will be voting lib dem.
I haven't seen it in full, but by all accounts it appears that Clegg was the only one saying anything remotely interesting. He is trying to set the Lib Dems apart as somewhat anti-establishment and I think it is the correct approach. People are not happy with Brown who represents the party of war and who was chancellor whilst the economic bubble was brewing. He is not a responsible leader and to try and paint himself as being so is false. Cameron provides no real alternative and TBH I see little distinction between Labour and Tory right now. The Lib Dems aren't massively different, but they are realistic about things and Clegg seems to have his head screwed on straight. I hope a lot of people do become swayed by him. Hung parliament or not, I want to see as many votes go to the Lib Dems as possible. It's time for a sea change in British politics. The main two parties have been too cosy for too long and it's time for the people to wake up and vote for real change. We all know what the Tories are and now Labour has shown us for too long what it is now about.
vote bnp???????????????????????????
i`ll get my coat
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Re: UK Prime Ministerial candidate debate
Voting for Lib Dem isn't aiming for real change though is it.
Re: UK Prime Ministerial candidate debate
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Jimboogie
Voting for Lib Dem isn't aiming for real change though is it.
agreed
almost like voting to no vote
Re: UK Prime Ministerial candidate debate
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Jimboogie
Voting for Lib Dem isn't aiming for real change though is it.
To an extent I would agree. But considering how the main two are going about things, the Lib Dems are like a breath of fresh air. They are the only viable alternative and the only hope of anything remotely positive or different.
Re: UK Prime Ministerial candidate debate
I was watching Question Time after the debates, and the presenter asked Labour's Ed Milliband:
"Wouldn't a hung parliament be the worst possible result?"
He replied: "It's not the worst POSSIBLE result, no...."
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Jimboogie
Voting for Lib Dem isn't aiming for real change though is it.
I suppose it depends on how big the change you're looking for is. There's the far right and the far left who would be willing to destroy the current system for you, but I don't see either side's arguments getting enough oxygen to build any kind of base. The Greens are proposing their environmental revolution and promising 500,000 new "green" jobs. I think the real choice has to be which part of the middle ground do we take.
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superheavyrhun
I was watching Question Time after the debates, and the presenter asked Labour's Ed Milliband:
"Wouldn't a hung parliament be the worst possible result?"
He replied: "It's not the worst POSSIBLE result, no...."
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Originally Posted by
Jimboogie
Voting for Lib Dem isn't aiming for real change though is it.
I suppose it depends on how big the change you're looking for is. There's the far right and the far left who would be willing to destroy the current system for you, but I don't see either side's arguments getting enough oxygen to build any kind of base. The Greens are proposing their environmental revolution and promising 500,000 new "green" jobs. I think the real choice has to be which part of the middle ground do we take.
correct me if im wrong here as im a complete political novice
The likelihood is a hung parliament with a tory majority. Does that then mean Mr Cameron goes to buckingham palace and asks the queens permission to form a government consisting pretty much of all colours of the rainbow which in turn would cause chaos in trying to get new measures passed what with both sides simply choosing to cancel eachother out?
Re: UK Prime Ministerial candidate debate
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superheavyrhun
I was watching Question Time after the
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Jimboogie
Voting for Lib Dem isn't aiming for real change though is it.
I suppose it depends on how big the change you're looking for is.
Ah you got me there.
Personally, I'd like to see someone come up and turn this country on it's head.
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politically I'm green/anarchist but there isn't such a party. :cool:
Re: UK Prime Ministerial candidate debate
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Howlin Mad Missy
politically I'm green/anarchist but there isn't such a party. :cool:
See... Why do we have to be seen to vote for change? Why cant we/ don't we just change it our bloody selves?!
I'm starting to hog threads again. I'm going for lunch :rolleyes:
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hattonthehammer
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Originally Posted by
superheavyrhun
I was watching Question Time after the debates, and the presenter asked Labour's Ed Milliband:
"Wouldn't a hung parliament be the worst possible result?"
He replied: "It's not the worst POSSIBLE result, no...."
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Originally Posted by
Jimboogie
Voting for Lib Dem isn't aiming for real change though is it.
I suppose it depends on how big the change you're looking for is. There's the far right and the far left who would be willing to destroy the current system for you, but I don't see either side's arguments getting enough oxygen to build any kind of base. The Greens are proposing their environmental revolution and promising 500,000 new "green" jobs. I think the real choice has to be which part of the middle ground do we take.
correct me if im wrong here as im a complete political novice
The likelihood is a hung parliament with a tory majority. Does that then mean Mr Cameron goes to buckingham palace and asks the queens permission to form a government consisting pretty much of all colours of the rainbow which in turn would cause chaos in trying to get new measures passed what with both sides simply choosing to cancel eachother out?
If there is a hung parliament the party that received most votes does not have to be included in a coalition. So say if the Tories got most seats but not an overall majority it could be the Lib Dems and Labour that form a coalition. In regards to coalitions not getting anything done that is usually the fear. But they have worked before and do work very well in other countries. It wouldn't be so bad I don't think as it would force a period of consenus and real problem solving rather than the usual adverserial populist crap.
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I'm not entirely sure myself Missy, but I imagine that if the Tories don't get a majority, and Labour/Lib Dems have enough if they join together then they could form their own coalition.
Tried to find out on the BBC website, and I think this says that it's possible, but not entirely sure:
BBC News - Q&A: What is a hung parliament?
Re: UK Prime Ministerial candidate debate
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superheavyrhun
I'm not entirely sure myself Missy, but I imagine that if the Tories don't get a majority, and Labour/Lib Dems have enough if they join together then they could form their own coalition.
Tried to find out on the BBC website, and I think this says that it's possible, but not entirely sure:
BBC News - Q&A: What is a hung parliament?
That is correct.
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I know quite a lot about this crap . Feel free to ask any questions relating to processes etc. I have a politics degree don't you know? ;)
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Re: UK Prime Ministerial candidate debate
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ryanman
I know quite a lot about this crap . Feel free to ask any questions relating to processes etc. I have a politics degree don't you know? ;)
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With your expertise in these opposame matters, can you tell me who is most likely to "win" the next debate?
The yellow man is now 1/2 favourite (5/2 blue 5/1 red). Now that people know who the yellow man is, surely that puts him under the cosh for the next show?
Do you think a blue or red bet is value? Thanks.
