Re: what is the best blood testing compromise for pacquiao-mayweather fight?
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NSAC has it's own regulations and penalties for coming in overweight, so why does Pacquiao have to make up a $10 million per lb clause?
i think the blood tests should happen, and it should be the norm, not just in this fight
we can discuss the weight penalty clause in another thread since it's a completely separate issue from blood testing. these 2 are not related.
stringent blood testing might be the way to go in the future but its total implementation still needs to be studied thoroughly. some issues are;
- will it be for all boxers? (as what you suggested) including those undercard boxers
- who will shoulder the blood testing cost of roughly $20k per boxer per fight ($20k is larger than some boxers' purses)
until such time that boxing commissions already has the blood testing in place, we can contend ourselves with compromise testing.
Well you can start by putting it on title fights and make the IBF wbo wbc wba etc etc pay for it. Failing that take it out of the fight purse.
That would be a decent start.
good suggestion. until such time that it's already in place, a compromise agreement might be the best solution to make this fight a reality.
Re: what is the best blood testing compromise for pacquiao-mayweather fight?
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toe2toe
we can discuss the weight penalty clause in another thread since it's a completely separate issue from blood testing. these 2 are not related.
stringent blood testing might be the way to go in the future but its total implementation still needs to be studied thoroughly. some issues are;
- will it be for all boxers? (as what you suggested) including those undercard boxers
- who will shoulder the blood testing cost of roughly $20k per boxer per fight ($20k is larger than some boxers' purses)
until such time that boxing commissions already has the blood testing in place, we can contend ourselves with compromise testing.
Well you can start by putting it on title fights and make the IBF wbo wbc wba etc etc pay for it. Failing that take it out of the fight purse.
That would be a decent start.
good suggestion. until such time that it's already in place, a compromise agreement might be the best solution to make this fight a reality.
the weight penalty clause has everything to do with this, cause it goes hand in hand with the blood testing seeing how they were the demands made in this particular fight
Re: what is the best blood testing compromise for pacquiao-mayweather fight?
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Hornfinger
Well you can start by putting it on title fights and make the IBF wbo wbc wba etc etc pay for it. Failing that take it out of the fight purse.
That would be a decent start.
good suggestion. until such time that it's already in place, a compromise agreement might be the best solution to make this fight a reality.
the weight penalty clause has everything to do with this, cause it goes hand in hand with the blood testing seeing how they were the demands made in this particular fight
so you want the purse split, the size of the gloves, the size of the ring be discussed on this thread as well?
granting these 2 issues are related, does pacquiao dropping the weight penalty clause causes mayweather to drop the blood testing demand too?
the thread title says it all. the weight penalty clause is not related to the subject of this thread.
Re: what is the best blood testing compromise for pacquiao-mayweather fight?
on another note, any info if usada testers got blood from floyd and mosley right after the fight?
how many days from blood letting 'til the results be known, any info?
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I was actually hopeful when Pac said he'd do a 14 day cut off - But the more I think about, the only way it is completely fair is the 1 day cut off.
If it's good enough for Mosley who was the man at Welter then it should be good enough for Miss Phillipines too if he grows some balls and does the right thing.
I don't know whether I'd sacrifice Floyd agreeing for the 14 day cut off..actually, of course I would...I want this fight to happen regardless but it would still leave a teeny doubt about Pac for me.
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18 days cutoff and testing right after the fight is a good compromise already for this fight to happen.
anything they can compromise as long as the fight happens. ;D
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If the fight ain't fair I'm not interested in seeing it.
Re: what is the best blood testing compromise for pacquiao-mayweather fight?
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I was actually hopeful when Pac said he'd do a 14 day cut off - But the more I think about, the only way it is completely fair is the 1 day cut off.
If it's good enough for Mosley who was the man at Welter then it should be good enough for Miss Phillipines too if he grows some balls and does the right thing.
HAHAHAHAHAAHA!!! That's made my day! ;D
Re: what is the best blood testing compromise for pacquiao-mayweather fight?
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If the fight ain't fair I'm not interested in seeing it.
if the boxers can compromise and agree to fight, it's good enough for me. can't wait to see this fight.
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Just accept the 14 day cutoff and fight.
Re: what is the best blood testing compromise for pacquiao-mayweather fight?
14 days and a test straight after the fight could be decent it if is the last resort but personally, I think that such funny arrangements aren't a good trend.
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14 days and a test straight after the fight could be decent it if is the last resort but personally, I think that such funny arrangements aren't a good trend.
all these funny arrangements will be gone once boxing commissions adapted the olympic style blood testing as the standard drug testing for all professional boxers at all level.
let's support to clean this sport we love most that suspected being full of drug cheats.
until then let's contend with compromise arrangements.
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As I've said before can Olympic style drug testing detect A-side Meth? I mean a drug that can make you take .38 and .45 caliber bullets on the battlefield of war is dangerous in any sport.
I mean there was a respected Saddo member here that said the North Vietnamese soldiers used A-side Meth during the war against the US military, and they seemed invincible to the M-16 bullets that the US infantry used.
So think if Pacquiao is using this A-side meth, no wonder he's invincible in the ring.
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As I've said before can Olympic style drug testing detect A-side Meth? I mean a drug that can make you take .38 and .45 caliber bullets on the battlefield of war is dangerous in any sport.
I mean there was a respected Saddo member here that said the North Vietnamese soldiers used A-side Meth during the war against the US military, and they seemed invincible to the M-16 bullets that the US infantry used.
So think if Pacquiao is using this A-side meth, no wonder he's invincible in the ring.
imo that a-side-meth drug is so difficult to detect.
Re: what is the best blood testing compromise for pacquiao-mayweather fight?
whatever is required by the commission. otherwise it is BS.