There will be NO Pavlik vs Martinez rematch

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by miles

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by HattonTheHammer

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by skel1983

Come on Hulk my man if small Martinez can rough up and outbox imagine what Bute would do, add to that Pavlik I feel at 168 is not the monster he is at 160. Bute tko 7.

---

agree completely

pavliks qualitys at middle the made him a world champ was power. He aint gonna get any stronger at 168 and the boys up there will just tear him limb from limb once they get the chance.

Froch, kessler, bute, dirrell, ward, abraham, pascal and possibly diaconu all take pavlik at 168

---

I agree with that.

Pavlik has shown nothing recently that makes me think he can deal effectively at SMW against a fair bunch of them guys. He should stay at MW and fight Martinez again, if he can improve and show something, then he can move up. Otherwise, I'm really not so sure if he has all that much to offer right now.

---

yep me too

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hulk

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Owned by Youngblood

Nice guy Pavlik but the blueprints out on him and his 15 minutes is up.I just dont see Martinez needing him or the fight going any different.Def Pavlik would be a good propel fight for Bute as far as exposure.Think Bute would make a mess of him inside if distance.

---

I'm def not a Pavlik fan but if Librado Andrade can KO Bute, then so can Pavlik.

I don't think Pavlik would be a lamb led to the slaughter against Bute.

He would have a good chance of winning.

---

Punchers chance?Sure.But that won't get it done vs a bigger,harder hitting Bute if Martinez had him busted up,dejected and answerless at end.Do have to say that Andrade rematch left an exclamation point eh?

I just found this article from trainer Jack Loew.

Kelly Pavlik’s trainer Jack Loew said his fighter has not yet made a decision about his future, contrary to a report by HBO’s Larry Merchant.
Merchant reported Saturday night that Pavlik would bypass a rematch with Sergio Martinez and move up to super middleweight.
“I don’t know where Larry Merchant got that, I really don’t,” Loew said by phone Sunday afternoon.
Pavlik will talk with Loew, his father, co-manager Mike Pavlik Sr. and co-manager Cameron Dunkin at 2 p.m. today to discuss their next step.
Pavlik and Dunkin did not return messages seeking comment.
Pavlik (36-2, 32 KOs) lost his middleweight titles by unanimous decision to Martinez on April 17. He has until May 17 to activate the rematch clause.
The rematch must take place at 160 pounds; Pavlik’s rematch against Jermain Taylor in February of 2008 took place at a 164-pound catch weight.
If Pavlik declines the rematch, it will be because of weight. The 6-foot-21/2 Pavlik reportedly weighed 192 pounds in the weeks after the loss to Martinez, which is close to what he weighed before training camp. He struggled to make weight before the bout and weighed as much as 178 the night of the fight. The struggles to make weight may have contributed to Pavlik’s sluggish performance over the final four rounds.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by The Fightfan

I just found this article from trainer Jack Loew.

Kelly Pavlik’s trainer Jack Loew said his fighter has not yet made a decision about his future, contrary to a report by HBO’s Larry Merchant.
Merchant reported Saturday night that Pavlik would bypass a rematch with Sergio Martinez and move up to super middleweight.
“I don’t know where Larry Merchant got that, I really don’t,” Loew said by phone Sunday afternoon.
Pavlik will talk with Loew, his father, co-manager Mike Pavlik Sr. and co-manager Cameron Dunkin at 2 p.m. today to discuss their next step.
Pavlik and Dunkin did not return messages seeking comment.
Pavlik (36-2, 32 KOs) lost his middleweight titles by unanimous decision to Martinez on April 17. He has until May 17 to activate the rematch clause.
The rematch must take place at 160 pounds; Pavlik’s rematch against Jermain Taylor in February of 2008 took place at a 164-pound catch weight.
If Pavlik declines the rematch, it will be because of weight. The 6-foot-21/2 Pavlik reportedly weighed 192 pounds in the weeks after the loss to Martinez, which is close to what he weighed before training camp. He struggled to make weight before the bout and weighed as much as 178 the night of the fight. The struggles to make weight may have contributed to Pavlik’s sluggish performance over the final four rounds.

---

I hate jack loew and kelly pavlik from the very bottom of my soulless heart

I came close to crying the night of the hopkins fight. BHop staring at the media who all claimed he was past it and that pavlik was going to whoop him. Must of lasted a good minute or so

Would of liked to of seen a rematch, there's still some goods fight to be made tho

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by paddy448

Would of liked to of seen a rematch, there's still some goods fight to be made tho

---

Oh yeah like what, there r no other good matches other then Martinez pavlik,

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mularvar

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by paddy448

Would of liked to of seen a rematch, there's still some goods fight to be made tho

---

Oh yeah like what, there r no other good matches other then Martinez pavlik,

---

R u for real, pavlik is meant to be stepping up to 168 where I think a bute fight would be great and realistic, as for Martinez either cintron, Williams or margarito r all great matchups if u ask me

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by paddy448

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mularvar

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by paddy448

Would of liked to of seen a rematch, there's still some goods fight to be made tho

---

Oh yeah like what, there r no other good matches other then Martinez pavlik,

---

R u for real, pavlik is meant to be stepping up to 168 where I think a bute fight would be great and realistic, as for Martinez either cintron, Williams or margarito r all great matchups if u ask me

---

Yeah well where not asking u r we paddy, I've watched u on here with ur job biscuit nonsense, I don't take anything u say seriously, and I think I speak for everyone on here(douche bag)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mularvar

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by paddy448

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mularvar

Oh yeah like what, there r no other good matches other then Martinez pavlik,

---

R u for real, pavlik is meant to be stepping up to 168 where I think a bute fight would be great and realistic, as for Martinez either cintron, Williams or margarito r all great matchups if u ask me

---

Yeah well where not asking u r we paddy, I've watched u on here with ur job biscuit nonsense, I don't take anything u say seriously, and I think I speak for everyone on here(douche bag)

---

U need to calm down newbie, u won't last long on here they way u are, the mods on here are seriously unforgiving, as for the job biscuit, my computer was hacked

Don't threaten me tough guy, I'm an internet hard man, I can take u out with one click, i am tough and ready for action and u stand no chance against me, I am superior to U in everyway, I no everything, u no nothing, I am tall u r small, I rule and ur just a silly fool, don't try and test me cause I will get u

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mularvar

Don't threaten me tough guy, I'm an internet hard man, I can take u out with one click, i am tough and ready for action and u stand no chance against me, I am superior to U in everyway, I no everything, u no nothing, I am tall u r small, I rule and ur just a silly fool, don't try and test me cause I will get u

---

u r insane:LOS:

mularvar has got to be one of the older guys playin us for fools haha

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mularvar

Don't threaten me tough guy, I'm an internet hard man, I can take u out with one click, i am tough and ready for action and u stand no chance against me, I am superior to U in everyway, I no everything, u no nothing, I am tall u r small, I rule and ur just a silly fool, don't try and test me cause I will get u

---

JEsus

i think you guys forget i can read and match your IP address's.... cut this shit out or your legit account will get banned from this site... you know who i'm talking to.

i think Pavlik has a good go at supermiddle he could do Froch and if he lands big he could have Kessler, but the other guys would be much more competative with him thus resulting in him taking a whooping. ;D