Manny agreed to have an IMMEDIATE blood test right after the fight. It's as good as pre-fight testing.
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Manny agreed to have an IMMEDIATE blood test right after the fight. It's as good as pre-fight testing.
No, what Tygart is saying is that Pac's people are missing the point. What thwarts most of the cheating is the element of surprise. They don't know when the cheaters are cheating and the cheaters don't know the day they will stop the random testing. Therefore, they must reserve the option that all days are a testing day. If someone is cheating and they know they can be tested on call on any given day that bluff by itself is a call most cheaters won't challenge and this makes for a huge and necessary hinderance to the cheaters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlik
US dope body says Pacquiao misses point | Manila Bulletin
Exactly, I find the whole need for a window to be fishy in itself. Random testing should be just that. Random.Quote:
Originally Posted by blegitNo, what Tygart is saying is that Pac's people are missing the point. What thwarts most of the cheating is the element of surprise. They don't know when the cheaters are cheating and the cheaters don't know the day they will stop the random testing. Therefore, they must reserve the option that all days are a testing day. If someone is cheating and they know they can be tested on call on any given day that bluff by itself is a call most cheaters won't challenge and this makes for a huge and necessary hinderance to the cheaters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlik
US dope body says Pacquiao misses point | Manila Bulletin
I want the fight and actually want Pac to win, but he should take random tests. There is no good reason not to.
Pacquiaos camp agreed to take random urine tests all the way up to the fight, which is sufficient to detect EPO abuse EPO Detection - World Anti-Doping Agency
Stimulants are only effectove during the fight so should be detected in the agreed upon post fight test. Not sure if steroids and HGH can be detected using urine tests alone, either way am scepitical about the gains a boxer could make in the winding down period of training. Much more effective during off season which is tested by olympic athletes, yet curiously isn't tested or promoted by PBF (who seems to get bigger every fight) who apparently wants to clean up the sport, and whose followers have not demanded the likes of Marquez-Vazquez-Williams-Cintron-adamek-arreola-pavlik-martinez etc to do so in recent weeks.
14 days was good enough for Mayweather in January, and is sure as hell more than good enough for me (a fan) who wants to the most meaningful fight in recent years actually take fucking place.
A little deja vu perhaps?
Perhaps I should post the 50+ links that held all these same arguments before.
I can't wait for the two divas Pac and Mayweather to retire, I don't watch boxing to hear a couple of queens hash out details for months on end squabbling over the finer details of morality and the obligations of private parties vs. professional athletes. The last round of negotiations really soured me to this fight at all. I used to really want this fight, now I will only care when (if) that opening bell sounds. In the mean time I'm gonna focus on fighters that do their fighting in the ring, not the soap opera that this has become.
Sad thing is all this can be avoided if Pacquiao just says "Alright, i'll take the random blood test let's fight."
PACQUIAO is the one trying to make it fit to the mold he wants saying "I'll do it weeks out, ill do it right after the fight, ill do it these many days, I don't want it this time i want it that time" he apparently doesn't get the meaning of 'random'.
So if you want to blame anyone for all this stalling blame Pacquiao. All he has to do is give a simple "sure, drug test me, lets fight" and all this ends.
This is what I was wondering about, can Manny actually make any gains within that 14 day window? I mean he won't be training that much in the week leading up to the fight so I can't imagine cheating will be of any benefit to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bomp
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Originally Posted by Pavlik
USADA and the Random-Tests are a SHAM...;D