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I feel like a piece of crap for saying it.....but i'd actually like to see this fight. Shit if andrade could beat this guy that first time then i'm pretty sure old ass irritating hopkins will find a way to if nothing else make it close. My call would be hopkins would loose a wide wide uni decision but then act like he can still fight and act like he won afterward.
B-Hop vs a Southpaw........oh God, I'd rather have steak knives driven into my eyes than watch that
Bute better avoid this fight. Old man Hopkins is going to tear his ass apart. Of course Hopkins is old and not the same fighter as in his prime but watch him mug Bute like a South Philly thug. his game plan may be boring and slow but effective. Hopkins is to gritty for Bute. Enough talk, just wait and see. Bute better not take this fight and u guys know it. A total back alley mugging is in store. This shit is going to be funny. Mark my word
Hopkins is old but I really don't see anything in Bute's style that would bother Hopkins. If edison miranda can find any kind of range on you and hit you consistently I wouldn't
want to think what Hopkins would hit especially with his spoiler style I could see him nailing Bute from the outside with straights and then getting inside and making it dirty and wearing Bute down late.
People seem to always overestimate someone against B-Hop after a bad performance I'm beginning to think its a ploy by Hopkins. Bute has a style Hopkins would pick apart, and for anyone that thinks Bute would stop Hopkins why would Hopkins ever be stopped by anyone? Everyone thought Pavlik would stop him too.
Which fight were you watching? I think Miranda landed one solid right hand in the entire fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
Hopkins looked awful in his last fight and i truly believe he should retire.
I still think Hopkins can beat Bute though.
Bute is a very good fighter (southpaw, good power and speed, good overall skills) but he isn't very good defensively and he appears to have stamina issues.
Another thing i would like to point out is his level of competition because although he has some decent names like Andrade, Bika and Miranda, all of those fighters are punching bags compared to Hopkins. Bute is obviously looking for the big fights but the Super six tourney basically limits his options so he's not all to blame.
I think Hopkins can win based on his sharp lead right hand and his rough tactics should throw Bute off also.
I still think that to beat the current Hopkins you have to put pressure on him and keep him throwing and moving. I don't see Bute being able to do it.
I am wondering what weight this fight will be held at ? 168 obviously appears like an obvious choice because it gives Hopkins the chance to notch a third world title in a different weight class but can he make 168 ? We all know he can make 170 but 168 might be a bit much for him at this stage.
Bute should win this even at light heavy, maybe after this fight it will be time for B Hop to call it a day.
Care to make a bet if it comes off?...I pick Bute and if I win you leave the site forever and spare us with your wanna be Teddy Atlas analogies...Quote:
Originally Posted by uwey
Hopkins is a pain in the ass, a spoiler and he knows how to take cheap shots out of the referee's view. He is known for being totally obnoxious. Just ask Trinidad how hhe felt when the man came out and made nasty comments in front of Trinidad's countrymen. If Bute can get past that, Hopkins will have a concussion that will finally retire him otherwise, it's the same old shit and one more money fight he does not deserve. It's time for the curtain to come down.
I am sure Bute can win this, especially with Stephane Larouche in his corner but it can't be a nice fight to see by any mean, grabbing, theater and head butt will be at the appointment.
Bernard the underdog. Bernard the man who has no chance against Bute. Yes, he is old,disrespectful,a little dirty but this aint no sissy game, and yes ,i said aint. He doesnt have the reflects of the past. Cant fight like he use to be. A complete bum and easy fight. He will make Bute alot of easy money. I hear yall. Why not fight him as a tune up and get paid at the same time. All that being said, this is going to be a complete mugging. South Philly style. I want to see this match up now so bad. Bute the great. make me laugh. Why retire when so many fighters can make easy money fighting Bernard. OK, LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE. Bernard by mugging. This fight wont be made. Bute people are not stupid.
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Originally Posted by miles
Bute should stop him alright. If he doesn't stop Hopkins it's shameful.
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Originally Posted by uwey
WOW!!! You sound so street...You are so cool....You must come from the hard core Getto....I bet your SOUTH PHILLY STYLE is the bomb!!!!....You don't even care about saying "Aint"...Then even backed it up!!!!...... Since you said it this musty be true....
Hopkins will beat bute and I AINT caring what no body sayz different.....
BTW the whole Philly Style is about obsolete....It sits right now about the same as Cus Damatos peek a boo...Great back then...not so much now
Bute dominated Edison Miranda. Try and watch that one more time. It won't take you very long because Miranda had lost all sense of time and place by the middle of the 4th. That means basically all you need is ten minutes to check it out. The knockout was killer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
But, I agree no one is knocking Hopkins out. In fact, that is the only way this ends well for Bute becaue if he beats Hopkins by decision, people will chalk it up to Hopkins being passed his prime. Hopkins never is an easy opponent and makes for boring fights. The only impressive thing Bute can do is knock Hopkins out, which I feel is impossible.
It would be a test for Bute, but consider when was the last time Bute really was dominated in a round. The only round I've seen Bute lose convincingly in recent memory was the last one with Andrade in their first fight. I mean I haven't seen anyone win a round on him in a while. At least not dominated a round against him. He beat Zuniga, Miranda, and Andrade within four rounds. He was the first person to knock out Andrade - and with a body shot! He won every single round against Bika, well, maybe he lost one, but pretty much dominated the whole entire fight. Joppy and Berrio never really won a round either. Actually, that's not true Berrio may have won a couple, but you get my drift. From never really losing a round, to losing every round against Hopkins, would be a bit wild.
While I agree more then likely he will not stop Hopkins lets not get crazy and not think it could not happen be it against Bute or any of the other SMW at this point...They are all in their primes and all hard hard fighters....Hopkins is past his best severly....He is begging for glory years that escaped him due to the fact he was an ignored champion due to his own attitude for most of his MW reign.....But these guys at SMW Bute, Ward, Froch, Abraham are all tough guys that are willing to get dirty with him....IMO his best chance against Bute is a nasty fight that he will still lose by dec but to say a KO is impossible (Not that you said it inparticular) is a bit overboard....Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratBute dominated Edison Miranda. Try and watch that one more time. It won't take you very long because Miranda had lost all sense of time and place by the middle of the 4th. That means basically all you need is ten minutes to check it out. The knockout was killer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
But, I agree no one is knocking Hopkins out. In fact, that is the only way this ends well for Bute becaue if he beats Hopkins by decision, people will chalk it up to Hopkins being passed his prime. Hopkins never is an easy opponent and makes for boring fights. The only impressive thing Bute can do is knock Hopkins out, which I feel is impossible.
It would be a test for Bute, but consider when was the last time Bute really was dominated in a round. The only round I've seen Bute lose convincingly in recent memory was the last one with Andrade in their first fight. I mean I haven't seen anyone win a round on him in a while. At least not dominated a round against him. He beat Zuniga, Miranda, and Andrade within four rounds. He was the first person to knock out Andrade - and with a body shot! He won every single round against Bika, well, maybe he lost one, but pretty much dominated the whole entire fight. Joppy and Berrio never really won a round either. Actually, that's not true Berrio may have won a couple, but you get my drift. From never really losing a round, to losing every round against Hopkins, would be a bit wild.
IMO a fight with Abraham or Froch guys who like that dirty style of fighting would beat Hopkins down at this stage
Who thought Jones would get KO'd by Tarver and Johnson...
Whot thought Tony would get stopped by Mosley? Andrade by Bute? Darchinyan by Donaire etc....All guys no one ever expected to be stopped especially in the fashion they did...Hopkins is just a man like the rest and a man who waayyyy past his best years....
I was once a big big Hopkins fan but now he is just embaressing himself by his antics and performances in the ring and making a mockery of the sport by thinking this is world class and what people want to see...Why does it matter what the people want? Well because in the end thats who really pays the purses