Nigel Benn Steroid Claim - 16 years later..........

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Originally Posted by yvonne

There's no way Benn would have took steroid intentionally,"NO WAY!"

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How could you take them unintentionally?;D

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Originally Posted by yvonne

Yeah i read this in yesterday's SUN paper and was gutted to read it.Nigel Benn was and still is me favourite boxer.I grew up as a young kid in the 80's-90's watching his great fights.He was just soo raw and game every fight he was in.What a heart and desire Benn had.I only watched his dvd of his fights a couple of days ago before this news came up about him taking Steroids.I read his autobiography book a couple of years ago(its a great read,recommend it to anyone)and he does mention having wild parties AFTER his big fights with famous celebraties.He mentions having wild orgies with famous celebraties(most of which he did'nt want to mention due to reputation status).Benn was undefeated as he served in the army before going pro.Infact his record still stands today i think.Benn fought cruiserweights and heavyweight fighters in the army and still won,mainly by KO,that just goes to show how raw Benn was.There's no way Benn would have took steroid intentionally,"NO WAY!"

Benn is still me idol and always will be.Propper warrior Benn.Their sure dont create fighters like him anymore


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TVgkCN_1aE


Legend!!;)

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I hate to repeat myself but.....

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

It is IMPOSSIBLE to say definitively that an athlete has or has not used steroids without testing (although it is down to the athlete to prove that he is clean not the other way round). You don't know nigel Benn, You weren't in his training camps etc etc

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If the referee was worth a damn, that fight would have ended cleanly without any controversy.

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Originally Posted by ross

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Originally Posted by yvonne

There's no way Benn would have took steroid intentionally,"NO WAY!"

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How could you take them unintentionally?;D

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see "BALCO"

I wonder if the McLelland family are starting to run out of money for his care etc, and are seeing this as a cash cow.

Benn is one of my all time favourite fighters, I'd hate to see his name dragged through the mud.

There is no real hard evidence against him and he has denied it himself. Seems like a load of nonsense to me. A bit wrong of McClennans family to suddenly discover 'evidence' after so long. It's like they waited for the Manny/Floyd debacle to get the idea. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by miles

There is no real hard evidence against him and he has denied it himself. Seems like a load of nonsense to me. A bit wrong of McClennans family to suddenly discover 'evidence' after so long. It's like they waited for the Manny/Floyd debacle to get the idea. :rolleyes:

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Especially because they say there is "steroids or enhancing substances" involved but they can't say what it is, which is a nonsense in itself, if you detect something, you normally know what it is to make such claim. Also, from a 16 years old blood sampler taken on a boot which has passed through X hands in the meantime, it's one of the less credible assertion ever.

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

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Originally Posted by ross

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Originally Posted by yvonne

There's no way Benn would have took steroid intentionally,"NO WAY!"

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How could you take them unintentionally?;D

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see "BALCO"

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Balco has always been upfront with all the athlete's he has supplied, some might say differently. But I can't see how Conteh decide's to let some of his athletes know but keep others in the dark.

Chambers,Jones and Kelly White to just name a few have fully admitted now there involvement and they don't even blame Conteh, they say the only negative light in him is he may have manipulated them a little or as Chambers put it " groomed " him, but they all say the fella was upfront from the start told them all 100% this was illegal and gave them the final decision. So that's where I think the athletes who have been involved with Balco but still say they had no idea is total bullshit i.e Shane Mosley.

So for me everyone caught/involved with Balco new exactly what they were doing.

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Originally Posted by skel1983

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

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Originally Posted by ross

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Originally Posted by yvonne

There's no way Benn would have took steroid intentionally,"NO WAY!"

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How could you take them unintentionally?;D

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see "BALCO"

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Balco has always been upfront with all the athlete's he has supplied, some might say differently. But I can't see how Conteh decide's to let some of his athletes know but keep others in the dark.

Chambers,Jones and Kelly White to just name a few have fully admitted now there involvement and they don't even blame Conteh, they say the only negative light in him is he may have manipulated them a little or as Chambers put it " groomed " him, but they all say the fella was upfront from the start told them all 100% this was illegal and gave them the final decision. So that's where I think the athletes who have been involved with Balco but still say they had no idea is total bullshit i.e Shane Mosley.

So for me everyone caught/involved with Balco new exactly what they were doing.

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I don't know, when a guy is administered dosages of chemicals under the advisal of a company, without full knowledge of what he is injecting then I am sceptical.
I don't want to spoil this thread, but it is possible that athletes take what they believe is legal under the advisal of a company or individual.

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

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Originally Posted by skel1983

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

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Originally Posted by ross

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Originally Posted by yvonne

There's no way Benn would have took steroid intentionally,"NO WAY!"

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How could you take them unintentionally?;D

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see "BALCO"

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Balco has always been upfront with all the athlete's he has supplied, some might say differently. But I can't see how Conteh decide's to let some of his athletes know but keep others in the dark.

Chambers,Jones and Kelly White to just name a few have fully admitted now there involvement and they don't even blame Conteh, they say the only negative light in him is he may have manipulated them a little or as Chambers put it " groomed " him, but they all say the fella was upfront from the start told them all 100% this was illegal and gave them the final decision. So that's where I think the athletes who have been involved with Balco but still say they had no idea is total bullshit i.e Shane Mosley.

So for me everyone caught/involved with Balco new exactly what they were doing.

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I don't know, when a guy is administered dosages of chemicals under the advisal of a company, without full knowledge of what he is injecting then I am sceptical.
I don't want to spoil this thread, but it is possible that athletes take what they believe is legal under the advisal of a company or individual.

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There is video proof I posted on here a little while back of Mosely admitting he knew everything that was going on, that he was cheating. Then he has a fight that has random testing and doe absolutely shite!

It makes me feel sorry for Mayorga, although he has taken diuretics to lose weight he hasnt tried turning his body in to a weapon by being faster, stronger or be able to fight for longer. If there had been random testing in their fight I believe Mayorga would have won!

....too long ago for me to care either way. Even floyd's steroid detection team thinks this is riddiculous.

On another note without specualting to much if this is a way to get some sort of financial gain by G-Mans family, this is quite low. I know people in desperate situations do desperate things.But after what Nigel did few years back bit sad to see.

Nigel Benn off his own back in 2007 organised a fund raising night for G-MAN in and got alot of past and present fighters with deep pockets to attend, and in the end raised $300k for McLelland's family, which was a nice touch by Nigel.

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Originally Posted by ross

There is video proof I posted on here a little while back of Mosely admitting he knew everything that was going on, that he was cheating. Then he has a fight that has random testing and doe absolutely shite!

It makes me feel sorry for Mayorga, although he has taken diuretics to lose weight he hasnt tried turning his body in to a weapon by being faster, stronger or be able to fight for longer. If there had been random testing in their fight I believe Mayorga would have won!

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Ok I certainly didn't want to turn this thread into a doping conversation, but i have to take issue with this.
Mosley nearing forty years of age, fought the most technically accomplished fighter of our generation and went the distance. Along the way he managed to rock Mayweather and although he was never active enough. I wouldn't deem that a "shite" performance.

Additionally, Shane Mosley was accused of HGH use for the De la Hoya fight only. Having competed at world title level for so so many years that is the only fight in which anything suspect was detected. That does not mean that Mosley was not tested on numerous occasions throughout his career. Given that he was involved with Balco and finally admitted to having used the Cream and the Clear, it would be foolish to think that Mosley was not more stringently tested before and after all of his fights following the scandal.

Mayorga was a relatively recent fight. That merely means that the fight took place having benefited from the lastest of testing methods which are more sensitive to supplements, performance enhancing chemicals and hormone levels. It is safe to say whatever occurred in the past, Shane Mosley was an aged fighter whose body was clean for the Mayorga fight.

And he still stopped Mayorga hard.

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

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Originally Posted by ross

There is video proof I posted on here a little while back of Mosely admitting he knew everything that was going on, that he was cheating. Then he has a fight that has random testing and doe absolutely shite!

It makes me feel sorry for Mayorga, although he has taken diuretics to lose weight he hasnt tried turning his body in to a weapon by being faster, stronger or be able to fight for longer. If there had been random testing in their fight I believe Mayorga would have won!

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Ok I certainly didn't want to turn this thread into a doping conversation, but i have to take issue with this.
Mosley nearing forty years of age, fought the most technically accomplished fighter of our generation and went the distance. Along the way he managed to rock Mayweather and although he was never active enough. I wouldn't deem that a "shite" performance.

Additionally, Shane Mosley was accused of HGH use for the De la Hoya fight only. Having competed at world title level for so so many years that is the only fight in which anything suspect was detected. That does not mean that Mosley was not tested on numerous occasions throughout his career. Given that he was involved with Balco and finally admitted to having used the Cream and the Clear, it would be foolish to think that Mosley was not more stringently tested before and after all of his fights following the scandal.

Mayorga was a relatively recent fight. That merely means that the fight took place having benefited from the lastest of testing methods which are more sensitive to supplements, performance enhancing chemicals and hormone levels. It is safe to say whatever occurred in the past, Shane Mosley was an aged fighter whose body was clean for the Mayorga fight.

And he still stopped Mayorga hard.

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Mayorga admitted to using EPO, I believe he used something in the Mayorga and Margarito fights, he didnt tire in those fights like he did with Cotto and Floyd.

This is a video of Mosely admitting hes a filthy cheat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JMIB7g1mq0

I remember seeing how hard Benn trained on the way up. He was a fitness freak and had trained hard in the Army before becoming a Professional boxer.

There's no way he took PED's.