Re: How good is Chad Dawson?
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ElTerribleMorales
boxing is a sport not a show, if you want a show go watch WWE
If you want sports go watch track and field or amateur boxing.
Anyway, no matter how you call it, pay per view $ give unbiasad estimate how hot Chad Dawson is. People won't pay 29,99$ for "sports" - they want blood, knock downs, drama, humilitations, intelligent and funny trash talk, unbeatable legends, beasts and missing ears, good guys vs. evil guys, rags to riches stories, David vs Goliat, etc.
yea that explain why they have MLB Network, NBA on PPV, and NFL season pass, all subscription channels that allow you to catch every game :-X
Re: How good is Chad Dawson?
Going to sound unfair but when your fighting rematches off passable wins in the first place it says something.He and camp should have done everything in power to avoid 40 yr old Tarver rematch.I believe hes taken a step sideways rather than forward.Has all the skill but he coasts....he settles and gets too content in ring.Have to agree with 'charisma' point.As much as it cheapens and seems shallow to life in the ring...networks want "umpf" factor.Someone knocking heads as well as skilled.He needs to have a fire lit under him less he gets caught on the ropes one day .
Re: How good is Chad Dawson?
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The Fightfan
The answer to the question for me is I just don't know. He seems to have alot of potential and be an ATG but to tell you the truth he and Paulie Malignaggi are in the same class in one regard. I would would rather watch grass grow then tune into one of there fight's. Dawson just doesn't create enough excitement. His last two fight's with Tarver and the last fight with Glen (the first had some ebbs and flows) were downright boring. No doubt about it he is the top dog in the division and B-Hop should step up to the plate and give Dawson a shot.
Ohhh come on you can't be serious... I will agree that the 2nd Tarver fight was meh.
But he's no Paulie that is for damn sure.
Paulie = Dib
Re: How good is Chad Dawson?
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The Fightfan
The answer to the question for me is I just don't know. He seems to have alot of potential and be an ATG but to tell you the truth he and Paulie Malignaggi are in the same class in one regard. I would would rather watch grass grow then tune into one of there fight's. Dawson just doesn't create enough excitement. His last two fight's with Tarver and the last fight with Glen (the first had some ebbs and flows) were downright boring. No doubt about it he is the top dog in the division and B-Hop should step up to the plate and give Dawson a shot.
Ohhh come on you can't be serious... I will agree that the 2nd Tarver fight was meh.
But he's no Paulie that is for damn sure.
Paulie = Dib
Hey I just call it like I see it. I've fallen asleep (seriously) in his last three fight's. He was better than Johnson and Tarver in every single aspect and still fought safety first. If you are faster,stronger,younger at least try to land something solid to get your man out of there or to at least hurt them. I call Dawson what most on here call Wlad "No Balls".The only difference is Wlad eventually stops his man. He is exciting for the first few rounds and then bam he sleeps and goes into a complete shell. Cloud is getting some ink not do to his incredible skill or speed he simply FIGHT'S. Sure he isn't talented enough right now to take Dawson but give him a few more fight's and he will be a much bigger draw then Dawson simply do to excitement.
Re: How good is Chad Dawson?
A little off topic but I've heard that Kelly Pavlik wants to fight Chad Dawson or Tavoris Cloud, would that make it more exciting for you to watch?
I had high hopes for Dawson but I am not especially impressed. Good defense, fast hands, a little less than average pop.
Re: How good is Chad Dawson?
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A little off topic but I've heard that Kelly Pavlik wants to fight Chad Dawson or Tavoris Cloud, would that make it more exciting for you to watch?
I had high hopes for Dawson but I am not especially impressed. Good defense, fast hands, a little less than average pop.
Yeah or Angulo.. Article was posted earlier in thread
Re: How good is Chad Dawson?
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El Kabong
A little off topic but I've heard that Kelly Pavlik wants to fight Chad Dawson or Tavoris Cloud, would that make it more exciting for you to watch?
I had high hopes for Dawson but I am not especially impressed. Good defense, fast hands, a little less than average pop.
Yes absolutely I think a fight with Pavlik would be great. Pavlik's team was toying with that idea when Kelly lost to Martinez because he couldn't lose the weight properly anymore. Most people think it would be a whitewash on the cards for Dawson but I do think otherwise. Dawson does lose concentration and those lapses could cause Kelly to mix it up and land some good stuff.
It may seem that I don't like Dawson but that's not the truth. I simply think he doesn't do one thing spectacular and that is not making him a must see fighter that he could be. He seems to have great speed and combos but he can be countered, hurt and knocked down, he seems to have good power but he is more reluctant to keep his distance and box with a safety first attitude, he seems to have savvy ring intelligence but he falls asleep and sticks out a lackluster performance. To me he doesn't show enough guts to go in for the kill when he can easily end the fight.
Re: How good is Chad Dawson?
I am gonna go ahead and say Cloud can beat Bad Chad at this moment in time. This is boxing and Dawson while very good technically, doesn't have the intangibles like killer instinct. If Chad trys to fight at all with Cloud he could get in trouble, so I predict another jab/movement fight, crowds gonna boo in this one again I think.
Re: How good is Chad Dawson?
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The Fightfan
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El Kabong
A little off topic but I've heard that Kelly Pavlik wants to fight Chad Dawson or Tavoris Cloud, would that make it more exciting for you to watch?
I had high hopes for Dawson but I am not especially impressed. Good defense, fast hands, a little less than average pop.
Yes absolutely I think a fight with Pavlik would be great. Pavlik's team was toying with that idea when Kelly lost to Martinez because he couldn't lose the weight properly anymore. Most people think it would be a whitewash on the cards for Dawson but I do think otherwise. Dawson does lose concentration and those lapses could cause Kelly to mix it up and land some good stuff.
It may seem that I don't like Dawson but that's not the truth. I simply think he doesn't do one thing spectacular and that is not making him a must see fighter that he could be. He seems to have great speed and combos but he can be countered, hurt and knocked down, he seems to have good power but he is more reluctant to keep his distance and box with a safety first attitude, he seems to have savvy ring intelligence but he falls asleep and sticks out a lackluster performance. To me he doesn't show enough guts to go in for the kill when he can easily end the fight.
Dawson doesn't do one thing spectacular? He does great body work, he is one of the best combination punchers in the sport, and one of the best pure boxers in the sport. I think his power is underrated because he doesnt' ko guys, but like Wright and Floyd he definitely earns opponents respect with his power. Also he's tried to be an exciting fighter like in the first Johnson fight which was really exciting, but he almost payed the price for trying to go to war with somebody better suited for that type of fight. I think once he beats enough top end guys which there are so many to choose from these days that people will finally respect him enough to realize how good he is. Like I've said before if you don't like a pure boxer then you don't like boxing. If you need a knockout to be excited then I suggest you go watch UFC.
Re: How good is Chad Dawson?
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I am gonna go ahead and say Cloud can beat Bad Chad at this moment in time. This is boxing and Dawson while very good technically, doesn't have the intangibles like killer instinct. If Chad trys to fight at all with Cloud he could get in trouble, so I predict another jab/movement fight, crowds gonna boo in this one again I think.
My worry about Cloud is that his fight vs Glen Johnson will not be easy and he could fall into the same trap that Yusaff Mack fell into. You HAVE to box a bit vs Johnson and Cloud hasn't shown that he's smart enough yet. Believe me I LOVE the way Cloud fights but he's very vulnerable to Johnson. because Glen has good defense a great chin and can counter solidly...he also won't let you rest in the ring with him.
Cloud vs Dawson I think would be a hell of a fight...Chad is quick and good on defense but Cloud is aggressive and powerful. I would love to see Cloud-Pavlik which is also under consideration by Pavlik's team.
Re: How good is Chad Dawson?
Chad is a brilliant boxer and has the potential to clean up the division. Pascal fight is going to exciting, but Chad has beaten the best fighters out there and Hopkins is just avoiding him.
Re: How good is Chad Dawson?
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No Contest
I am gonna go ahead and say Cloud can beat Bad Chad at this moment in time. This is boxing and Dawson while very good technically, doesn't have the intangibles like killer instinct. If Chad trys to fight at all with Cloud he could get in trouble, so I predict another jab/movement fight, crowds gonna boo in this one again I think.
Really ? Tavoris Cloud to me seems like another Jeff Lacy, although he picks he's punches better.
Re: How good is Chad Dawson?
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Really ? Tavoris Cloud to me seems like another Jeff Lacy, although he picks he's punches better.
Well I think his attack is more versatile, his hands are faster, and because of that his punches are sharper/crisper. But he has been looking very onesided recently and that will be a problem vs Johnson.
I would LOVE to see Cloud-Pavlik
Yeah Dawson-Pascal should be a pretty solid scrap
Re: How good is Chad Dawson?
I said could, he has the power to put Chad on queer st. You saw Johnson take Dawson to deep waters the first fight, too late though after losing early rounds. Cloud will have a better pace I think.
