Re: should dirrell be removed from the super 6?
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erics44
just out of interest does anyone think dirrell won the froch fight?
i read some articles on east side boxing that suggested some people did
At the time I didn't but I've watched it once since and took some of the posters on here views into consideration and now I'd probably say Dirrell won!!
Re: should dirrell be removed from the super 6?
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erics44
just out of interest does anyone think dirrell won the froch fight?
i read some articles on east side boxing that suggested some people did
I thought he had won. Sure it wasnt exciting but i felt he did.
perhaps all these controvesial results arent that controvesial
i thought the froch dirrell fight was clear to froch, i was shocked the scores were so close
then again i watched a commonwealth light-middleweight fight not that long ago between john odonnell and craig watson and i felt watson walked it, i thought you could have argued 1 round for odonnell, but the judges and barry mcguigan disagreed
Re: should dirrell be removed from the super 6?
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I agree that the Froch fight was horrible, he held and ran for most of the fight. It looked like he dodn't really want to fight. Should he be removed? No , he fought a great fight against Abraham, he has great boxing ability and i'm really looking forward to him and Ward going at it. Regadless of what happened at the end of the AA fight he still outboxed him for 11 rounds.
styles worked perfectly in dirrells favour didnt they? id of liked to have seen what would have happened
do you think abraham might have caught up with him?
Abraham does have the one punch power, but nothing in the previous 11 rounds showed me that he was able to do it that night.
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Dirrell is talented and should stay in for sure. Anyone interested in the act of being hit while on the way down or down simply has to download the Sakio Bika vs Jean paul mendy fight I added to the file sharing area. Truly unreal, makes Abrahams swing at Dirrell look like a joke.....
Re: should dirrell be removed from the super 6?
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erics44
just out of interest does anyone think dirrell won the froch fight?
i read some articles on east side boxing that suggested some people did
I thought Dirrell took it by a few rounds, but I haven't re-watched so I can't say whether I'd see it the same way if I saw it again. Awful fight though. No way he should be removed, the fight with Abraham was a great performance, the controversy over the end shouldn't detract from what was a very dominant display.
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Dirrel shouldnt be removed. He is no worse than Ward who wrestles and headbutts his way through fights. Dirrell may be abit of a coward but for pure skill he is up there.
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if you remove direll for acting, then remove abraham for giving direll the open door to do it. Amazing to see the guy catching the illegal blow catching shit. Abraham supposidly is this huge puncher and strong beast yet he was getting his ass kicked by this guy who supposidly is crap..c'mon. Oh yea direll is to blame for fans leaving, not b.s. promoters, crappy match up's, worthless belts and ranking systems , stupid catchweights etc.....Direll's acting is horrible yet margarito acting like he didn't know he was cheating is ok ??? Speaking of acting abraham's acting wasn't so great either, as all of the sudden his comprehention of the english language was gone and he had no idea it was wrong to hit a guy even if you had to bend damn near halfway over and hit a guy down so far his shoelaces even tried to duck. How bout froch's poor acting and crying after he lost ? Acting like he didn't know where the next fight was when they already agreed and then threatned to take his ball and go home if he didn't get his way. There are tons of things wrong in this sport direll isn't one of them. He is what he is, he fought like that before the tourny now it's up to his comp to figure out a way around it. Same with ward. No one had a problem with the kid till he started beating guys people had favored. And who gives a rats ass how he does it. Everyone here and all his opponets already know what to expect, so if you let him get away with it still, your bad. The belts and atm machines don't care or look at how he wins.........only that he does. If guys spent as much time preparing for his breaking the rules as they do crying about it. Maybe the outcomes would be different. Bradley uses his head, and b hop cheats too...guess i ruined those surprises too. Anyone who buys pac/margo but yet still wants to complain about things wrong in boxing make no sense to me.
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Mar
if you remove direll for acting, then remove abraham for giving direll the open door to do it. Amazing to see the guy catching the illegal blow catching shit. Abraham supposidly is this huge puncher and strong beast yet he was getting his ass kicked by this guy who supposidly is crap..c'mon. Oh yea direll is to blame for fans leaving, not b.s. promoters, crappy match up's, worthless belts and ranking systems , stupid catchweights etc.....Direll's acting is horrible yet margarito acting like he didn't know he was cheating is ok ??? Speaking of acting abraham's acting wasn't so great either, as all of the sudden his comprehention of the english language was gone and he had no idea it was wrong to hit a guy even if you had to bend damn near halfway over and hit a guy down so far his shoelaces even tried to duck. How bout froch's poor acting and crying after he lost ? Acting like he didn't know where the next fight was when they already agreed and then threatned to take his ball and go home if he didn't get his way. There are tons of things wrong in this sport direll isn't one of them. He is what he is, he fought like that before the tourny now it's up to his comp to figure out a way around it. Same with ward. No one had a problem with the kid till he started beating guys people had favored. And who gives a rats ass how he does it. Everyone here and all his opponets already know what to expect, so if you let him get away with it still, your bad. The belts and atm machines don't care or look at how he wins.........only that he does. If guys spent as much time preparing for his breaking the rules as they do crying about it. Maybe the outcomes would be different. Bradley uses his head, and b hop cheats too...guess i ruined those surprises too. Anyone who buys pac/margo but yet still wants to complain about things wrong in boxing make no sense to me.
Exactly. Abraham fucked up bottom line. Whether or not Dirrell was acting, the bottom line was Abraham was getting outboxed for the majority of rounds and then whether or not he intended to hit Dirrel while he was down, he still hit him. It's a justifiable DQ. Sort of like Jones-Griffin 1, Jones fucked up while hitting the guy while he was down.
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Nobody disputes Abraham messed up by hitting Dirrell but Andre had a choice and he took the easy way out. not what you wana see from a young fighter
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Nobody disputes Abraham messed up by hitting Dirrell but Andre had a choice and he took the easy way out. not what you wana see from a young fighter
Agreed, although the decision Dirrell made was a split second one, and he had to go with it once he decided he was 'knocked out'.
Maybe if he had longer to think about it, he'd have realised how much of an idiot he would have looked. The only thing that was more ridiculous than the leg twitching was listening to Showtime's WWE/Jim Ross style commentary. It was reminiscent of when The Undertaker locked The Ultimate Warrior in that coffin and everyone fought he was dead.
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erics44
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Not every fighter brings excitement to the ring every time.
It's just something that comes with a fight where you get to wear gloves, fight defensively almost every round, and clinch without warning. (Dirrel)
Dirrel should not be removed, but I think he is my least favorite part about this tournament.
And your boy Froch is not all that great either. He needs to take a note from Margarito or Maidana, by learning how to effectively cut off the ring against skilled defensive fighters. If he was effective against fighters who could move, it would make the tournament a little more interesting.
im not saying froch is the most gifted boxer, and im not siding with him in particular
all the other boxers in the tournament have given us entertainment including Taylor
dirrell did everything to make the froch fight a dull fight, and yes he was on the way to redeeming (spelling) himself in the abraham fight, but then he did what he did
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GAME
Nobody disputes Abraham messed up by hitting Dirrell but Andre had a choice and he took the easy way out. not what you wana see from a young fighter
Agreed, although the decision Dirrell made was a split second one, and he had to go with it once he decided he was 'knocked out'.
Maybe if he had longer to think about it, he'd have realised how much of an idiot he would have looked. The only thing that was more ridiculous than the leg twitching was listening to Showtime's WWE/Jim Ross style commentary. It was reminiscent of when The Undertaker locked The Ultimate Warrior in that coffin and everyone fought he was dead.
Abraham should have been dq'd either way for hitting after the guy is down. It shouldn't have mattered whether Dirrell was out or not. In my opinion, he wasn't acting either. He was hurt.
This is a stupid post. Is Dirrell the most fun to watch? No. Was his fight versus Froch a disgrace? Yes. Does he need to redeem himself against Ward? Yes. But, he is in it at this point as much as the next guy.
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Yes, kick him out. Might as well. :-X;D
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ono
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GAME
Nobody disputes Abraham messed up by hitting Dirrell but Andre had a choice and he took the easy way out. not what you wana see from a young fighter
Agreed, although the decision Dirrell made was a split second one, and he had to go with it once he decided he was 'knocked out'.
Maybe if he had longer to think about it, he'd have realised how much of an idiot he would have looked. The only thing that was more ridiculous than the leg twitching was listening to Showtime's WWE/Jim Ross style commentary. It was reminiscent of when The Undertaker locked The Ultimate Warrior in that coffin and everyone fought he was dead.
LOL i remember that Ono i was so young at the time, i actually used to really like wrestling back in the day. Although i grew out of it when i was like 13.
I don't like Andre Dirrell but he did beat Carl Froch, and it was Arthur Abraham's fault whether Andre Dirrell acted or not.
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ICB
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ono
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GAME
Nobody disputes Abraham messed up by hitting Dirrell but Andre had a choice and he took the easy way out. not what you wana see from a young fighter
Agreed, although the decision Dirrell made was a split second one, and he had to go with it once he decided he was 'knocked out'.
Maybe if he had longer to think about it, he'd have realised how much of an idiot he would have looked. The only thing that was more ridiculous than the leg twitching was listening to Showtime's WWE/Jim Ross style commentary. It was reminiscent of when The Undertaker locked The Ultimate Warrior in that coffin and everyone fought he was dead.
LOL i remember that Ono i was so young at the time, i actually used to really like wrestling back in the day. Although i grew out of it when i was like 13.
I don't like Andre Dirrell but he did beat Carl Froch, and it was Arthur Abraham's fault whether Andre Dirrell acted or not.
I ran out of the house crying. I actually thought he was dead. I only cheered up when the Ice Cream man came round.
Yeah agreed on Abraham. It was still his fault, and the decision was the correct one.