Re: Khan v Maidana not in the UK now Vegas or Detroit
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
miles
It's a step in the right direction though, Fenster. Maidana is no name, but carries a bit of lick. Khan might well outbox him, but it's on the record that I think it is a step in the right direction. A lot of people want to see Khan in with a puncher. Even if not the most skilled, it's a proper step in the direction of potential risk. And that's what all boxing fans want to see, a fight with just that slight element of danger. It Khan wins this, then no doubt I will want more danger! Khan is not among the elite at 140 yet, despite his win over Paulie. There are more important fighters out there. Stick him in there with Bradley, that's what I want above all else.
I have no problem with you being a Khan hater, Miles, but to say he is not elite at 140 is ridiculous.
He has wins over current top ten rated lightwelters and has better form than current top ten rated lightwelters. He is
clearly an elite 140 fighter.
However much you dislike him this can't be disputed. Fact.
Oh please, you're making it sound like that people who criticized Khan was doing it because they were irrational.
They just wanted to see him in a fight where it's not a foregone conclusion that he would win easily. As Miles put it this is a good fight because Maidana has the power to ko him like that, instead of fighting guys like feather fisted Paulie, crap WBA fringe contender like Salita, trying to fight a shot Morales, or a small and undersized JMM who has no business fighting past 135.
Khan is finally taking a fight that has an air of danger in it.
Most are irrational. Most will discredit the Maidana win the second it's over (if Khan wins).
(sorry but I just spotted miles post above - lol)
Re: Khan v Maidana not in the UK now Vegas or Detroit
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
miles
It's a step in the right direction though, Fenster. Maidana is no name, but carries a bit of lick. Khan might well outbox him, but it's on the record that I think it is a step in the right direction. A lot of people want to see Khan in with a puncher. Even if not the most skilled, it's a proper step in the direction of potential risk. And that's what all boxing fans want to see, a fight with just that slight element of danger. It Khan wins this, then no doubt I will want more danger! Khan is not among the elite at 140 yet, despite his win over Paulie. There are more important fighters out there. Stick him in there with Bradley, that's what I want above all else.
I have no problem with you being a Khan hater, Miles, but to say he is not elite at 140 is ridiculous.
He has wins over current top ten rated lightwelters and has better form than current top ten rated lightwelters. He is
clearly an elite 140 fighter.
However much you dislike him this can't be disputed. Fact.
No, he is not elite. He does have the potential to be so though. He's just a belt holder.
It's all smoke and mirrors thus far, but a Maidana fight is a serious move in the right direction.
The Khan hater tag is wearing a bit thin tbh, he's doing alright for himself and I don't see too many threads where I am attacking him for his boxing these days.
Okay, if he sends a text of his willy and it gets in the papers and someone starts a thread then I might be critical, but otherwise, I am pretty easy going.
Like GB says let's just see him in good fights for once.
Name me the top 5 lightwelters in the world?
Re: Khan v Maidana not in the UK now Vegas or Detroit
Amir got balls.. taking on skilled brawler/puncher like Maidana. ;D Good for him.
Don't forget our sig bet Skel. ;) tsk!
Re: Khan v Maidana not in the UK now Vegas or Detroit
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
miles
It's a step in the right direction though, Fenster. Maidana is no name, but carries a bit of lick. Khan might well outbox him, but it's on the record that I think it is a step in the right direction. A lot of people want to see Khan in with a puncher. Even if not the most skilled, it's a proper step in the direction of potential risk. And that's what all boxing fans want to see, a fight with just that slight element of danger. It Khan wins this, then no doubt I will want more danger! Khan is not among the elite at 140 yet, despite his win over Paulie. There are more important fighters out there. Stick him in there with Bradley, that's what I want above all else.
I have no problem with you being a Khan hater, Miles, but to say he is not elite at 140 is ridiculous.
He has wins over current top ten rated lightwelters and has better form than current top ten rated lightwelters. He is
clearly an elite 140 fighter.
However much you dislike him this can't be disputed. Fact.
Oh please, you're making it sound like that people who criticized Khan was doing it because they were irrational.
They just wanted to see him in a fight where it's not a foregone conclusion that he would win easily. As Miles put it this is a good fight because Maidana has the power to ko him like that, instead of fighting guys like feather fisted Paulie, crap WBA fringe contender like Salita, trying to fight a shot Morales, or a small and undersized JMM who has no business fighting past 135.
Khan is finally taking a fight that has an air of danger in it.
Most are irrational. Most will discredit the Maidana win the second it's over (if Khan wins).
(sorry but I just spotted miles post above - lol)
Yes Maidana is a dangerous puncher. But he is not a great fighter. He does not have great form. Therefore Khan's win will be dismissed by the genuine haters.
Everyone on earth knows Khan has a china-chin - almost every fight is a danger.
Re: Khan v Maidana not in the UK now Vegas or Detroit
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
miles
It's a step in the right direction though, Fenster. Maidana is no name, but carries a bit of lick. Khan might well outbox him, but it's on the record that I think it is a step in the right direction. A lot of people want to see Khan in with a puncher. Even if not the most skilled, it's a proper step in the direction of potential risk. And that's what all boxing fans want to see, a fight with just that slight element of danger. It Khan wins this, then no doubt I will want more danger! Khan is not among the elite at 140 yet, despite his win over Paulie. There are more important fighters out there. Stick him in there with Bradley, that's what I want above all else.
I have no problem with you being a Khan hater, Miles, but to say he is not elite at 140 is ridiculous.
He has wins over current top ten rated lightwelters and has better form than current top ten rated lightwelters. He is
clearly an elite 140 fighter.
However much you dislike him this can't be disputed. Fact.
No, he is not elite. He does have the potential to be so though. He's just a belt holder.
It's all smoke and mirrors thus far, but a Maidana fight is a serious move in the right direction.
The Khan hater tag is wearing a bit thin tbh, he's doing alright for himself and I don't see too many threads where I am attacking him for his boxing these days.
Okay, if he sends a text of his willy and it gets in the papers and someone starts a thread then I might be critical, but otherwise, I am pretty easy going.
Like GB says let's just see him in good fights for once.
Name me the top 5 lightwelters in the world?
1. Bradley
2. Alexander
3. Maidana
4.........................
............................
...............................
................................
Khan
And that's me being nice.
I don't know who number 5 is. Probably Junior Witter or somebody.
Re: Khan v Maidana not in the UK now Vegas or Detroit
Nothing has warranted that kid to be an elite. He's still young and pretty crude. He is completely gun shy in fighting punchers with <33% KO ratios. He just hasn't had the fights to support the logic of him being an elite. An elite for the UK? Yes.. World? I don't think so.
He does have an elite trainer. (I'm pretty sure hornfinger is about to jump in and put something in this thread about Pacquiao is a cheat, because I mentioned Freddy Roach)
Even if he KO1 Maidana in this fight, Khan is not an elite. It takes more than just 2 wins over top 10 divisional guys.
Re: Khan v Maidana not in the UK now Vegas or Detroit
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
miles
It's a step in the right direction though, Fenster. Maidana is no name, but carries a bit of lick. Khan might well outbox him, but it's on the record that I think it is a step in the right direction. A lot of people want to see Khan in with a puncher. Even if not the most skilled, it's a proper step in the direction of potential risk. And that's what all boxing fans want to see, a fight with just that slight element of danger. It Khan wins this, then no doubt I will want more danger! Khan is not among the elite at 140 yet, despite his win over Paulie. There are more important fighters out there. Stick him in there with Bradley, that's what I want above all else.
I have no problem with you being a Khan hater, Miles, but to say he is not elite at 140 is ridiculous.
He has wins over current top ten rated lightwelters and has better form than current top ten rated lightwelters. He is
clearly an elite 140 fighter.
However much you dislike him this can't be disputed. Fact.
No, he is not elite. He does have the potential to be so though. He's just a belt holder.
It's all smoke and mirrors thus far, but a Maidana fight is a serious move in the right direction.
The Khan hater tag is wearing a bit thin tbh, he's doing alright for himself and I don't see too many threads where I am attacking him for his boxing these days.
Okay, if he sends a text of his willy and it gets in the papers and someone starts a thread then I might be critical, but otherwise, I am pretty easy going.
Like GB says let's just see him in good fights for once.
Name me the top 5 lightwelters in the world?
1. Bradley
2. Alexander
3. Maidana
4.........................
............................
...............................
................................
Khan
And that's me being nice.
I don't know who number 5 is. Probably Junior Witter or somebody.
I rest my case.
Utterly clueless. :vd:
Re: Khan v Maidana not in the UK now Vegas or Detroit
Miles mate have you had a fall??
Hahaha not often I disagree with much you say but Khan is way down there?? You have Alexander at 2? He has beat Urango shot to fuck Witter and got a gift v Kotelnik, Khan beat Kotelnik with ease and a solid win over Malinaggi who would still beat most of the top ten including Maidana and Urango imo.
Khan is number 3 at worst he is my number 2 behind Bradley. How can you have Witter ahead of Khan? He was beaotn by Bradley and quit against Alexander and hasn't fought for donkeys?
Re: Khan v Maidana not in the UK now Vegas or Detroit
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Originally Posted by
JonnyFolds
Nothing has warranted that kid to be an elite. He's still young and pretty crude. He is completely gun shy in fighting punchers with <33% KO ratios. He just hasn't had the fights to support the logic of him being an elite. An elite for the UK? Yes.. World? I don't think so.
He does have an elite trainer. (I'm pretty sure hornfinger is about to jump in and put something in this thread about Pacquiao is a cheat, because I mentioned Freddy Roach)
Even if he KO1 Maidana in this fight, Khan is not an elite. It takes more than just 2 wins over top 10 divisional guys.
generalbulldog!!!
Here he proves my point. Khan ain't getting no credit from the haters :D
Re: Khan v Maidana not in the UK now Vegas or Detroit
Oh, for goodness sake, I was only having a laugh with Witter. Don't take me so seriously, Fenster called me out on a top five and I realised I was flailing. No need to jump on me with the VD face signs! ;D
Re: Khan v Maidana not in the UK now Vegas or Detroit
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Originally Posted by
miles
Oh, for goodness sake, I was only having a laugh with Witter. Don't take me so seriously, Fenster called me out on a top five and I realised I was flailing. No need to jump on me with the VD face signs! ;D
You fucking deserve it you irrational hater ;D
Re: Khan v Maidana not in the UK now Vegas or Detroit
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Originally Posted by
JonnyFolds
Nothing has warranted that kid to be an elite. He's still young and pretty crude. He is completely gun shy in fighting punchers with <33% KO ratios. He just hasn't had the fights to support the logic of him being an elite. An elite for the UK? Yes.. World? I don't think so.
He does have an elite trainer. (I'm pretty sure hornfinger is about to jump in and put something in this thread about Pacquiao is a cheat, because I mentioned Freddy Roach)
Even if he KO1 Maidana in this fight, Khan is not an elite. It takes more than just 2 wins over top 10 divisional guys.
Go have another read he said elite of 140 :vd:
So wins over:
Kotelnik
Malinaggi
Maidana
don't make him the elite of 140?? For me them three wins alone against the other fighters resume has a valid case for number 1.
Re: Khan v Maidana not in the UK now Vegas or Detroit
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
Miles mate have you had a fall??
Hahaha not often I disagree with much you say but Khan is way down there?? You have Alexander at 2? He has beat Urango shot to fuck Witter and got a gift v Kotelnik, Khan beat Kotelnik with ease and a solid win over Malinaggi who would still beat most of the top ten including Maidana and Urango imo.
Khan is number 3 at worst he is my number 2 behind Bradley. How can you have Witter ahead of Khan? He was beaotn by Bradley and quit against Alexander and hasn't fought for donkeys?
Exactly.
Whether you like Khan or not you can't deny he is a top dog at 140 - his formlines piss all over most in the division.
Re: Khan v Maidana not in the UK now Vegas or Detroit
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
miles
Oh, for goodness sake, I was only having a laugh with Witter. Don't take me so seriously, Fenster called me out on a top five and I realised I was flailing. No need to jump on me with the VD face signs! ;D
You fucking deserve it you irrational hater ;D
Yeah, yeah, yeah! ;D
Re: Khan v Maidana not in the UK now Vegas or Detroit
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
JonnyFolds
Nothing has warranted that kid to be an elite. He's still young and pretty crude. He is completely gun shy in fighting punchers with <33% KO ratios. He just hasn't had the fights to support the logic of him being an elite. An elite for the UK? Yes.. World? I don't think so.
He does have an elite trainer. (I'm pretty sure hornfinger is about to jump in and put something in this thread about Pacquiao is a cheat, because I mentioned Freddy Roach)
Even if he KO1 Maidana in this fight, Khan is not an elite. It takes more than just 2 wins over top 10 divisional guys.
generalbulldog!!!
Here he proves my point. Khan ain't getting no credit from
some haters :D
Some haters.
A few will give him his due if he manages to beat Maidana.
