he rocked valuev who has the hardest head in boxing history by miles
haye could have bigger 1 punch power than lewis
im not saying he will im just saying he could
WTF? Says who you? :rolleyes:
Prime Vitali woul demolish Haye, Herbie Hide style. Now he still does a job on him.
:) yep says me
Vital would be favourite but with the hate that is around haye i cant really believe anyones opinion isnt influenced
i admit haye is a cock, he has a chance tho, vitali is old and haye is fast and very powerful
Haye has a glass chin mate that's where cometo my conclusion. ;) All the way bac to his am days whered he was put on his pants many a time, Vitali might be old still to powereful for Haye.
I was also on about Valuev having the hardest head in the history of boxing? Well who the fuck has he fought? Valuev would be ktfo by all the top boys in the history of the heavyweight divsion.
have you seen his head? it may or may not be the hardest but it looks like it should be
im not sure haye does have a glass jaw,
The only times (off the top of my head) he has really been hurt is against thompson and mormeck and i reckon the thompson KD was more that he was completely knackered and a bit weight drained against mormeck
its not excuses for him coz, despite being english, he int my favourite boxer i just dont think the evidence is conclusive of that
Here he is doing a little dance v career super middlewieght Lolenga Mock
10-11-2010, 01:16 PM
erics44
Re: Why haye could not beat vitali
i ant seen the first one before and dont remember the second
you put forward a nice argument tho
im still on sure, vitali can band and could probably put anyone away with the right punch
and like i said would definately be the favourite, dont you think hayes combination of speed and power should give vital a test? even more so than anything he has before? (appart from lewis obviously)
10-11-2010, 01:36 PM
skel1983
Re: Why haye could not beat vitali
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i ant seen the first one before and dont remember the second
you put forward a nice argument tho
im still on sure, vitali can band and could probably put anyone away with the right punch
and like i said would definately be the favourite, dont you think hayes combination of speed and power should give vital a test? even more so than anything he has before? (appart from lewis obviously)
I don't think Haye will beat him and I am not certain his power will do any damage, like Drago said Lewis landed a few bombs on Vitali and he didn't flinch, I think the age facotr maybe coes into it but I just can't see Haye doing it, both of them are too big for Haye imo, if they ever happen I will be cheering Haye on but it is a big task to beat any of the brothers.
10-11-2010, 02:52 PM
Mctaggert
Re: Why haye could not beat vitali
The punch that Corey Sanders landed when he fought Vitali (which was like a flush left hook from Gerry Cooney) persuades me that Vitali could take any punch Haye could throw and not go down. Haye would have to land several big shots to get close to knocking him out. By then Vitali may have already exposed Hayes glass jaw and done the job.
10-11-2010, 03:16 PM
erics44
Re: Why haye could not beat vitali
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Originally Posted by Mctaggert
The punch that Corey Sanders landed when he fought Vitali (which was like a flush left hook from Gerry Cooney) persuades me that Vitali could take any punch Haye could throw and not go down. Haye would have to land several big shots to get close to knocking him out. By then Vitali may have already exposed Hayes glass jaw and done the job.
i dont think anyone would suggest that vitali wouldnt be the favourite
but do you think haye could have the skills to give vitali more of a fight than his other opponents have?
10-11-2010, 05:31 PM
Mctaggert
Re: Why haye could not beat vitali
Yeah, I think Haye is a class above anyone either of the Klitchko's have fought for some time. It just worries me how untested Haye is against a big heavyweight puncher. Haye certainly has the speed and movement to catch Viltali, but I am unsure if he can finish him off.
10-13-2010, 05:11 PM
Drago
Re: Why haye could not beat vitali
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Originally Posted by Mctaggert
The punch that Corey Sanders landed when he fought Vitali (which was like a flush left hook from Gerry Cooney) persuades me that Vitali could take any punch Haye could throw and not go down. Haye would have to land several big shots to get close to knocking him out. By then Vitali may have already exposed Hayes glass jaw and done the job.
cant remember that one will have to have a look on youtube
10-13-2010, 05:55 PM
Rantcatrat
Re: Why haye could not beat vitali
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Originally Posted by erics44
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Originally Posted by Mctaggert
The punch that Corey Sanders landed when he fought Vitali (which was like a flush left hook from Gerry Cooney) persuades me that Vitali could take any punch Haye could throw and not go down. Haye would have to land several big shots to get close to knocking him out. By then Vitali may have already exposed Hayes glass jaw and done the job.
i dont think anyone would suggest that vitali wouldnt be the favourite
but do you think haye could have the skills to give vitali more of a fight than his other opponents have?
yes.
in my opinion, haye wouldn't go toe-to-toe against vitali anyway b/c knocking him out would be a long shot. he'd try to box and move and take a decision. same thing adamek would do.
10-14-2010, 02:16 AM
El Kabong
Re: Why haye could not beat vitali
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yes.
in my opinion, haye wouldn't go toe-to-toe against vitali anyway b/c knocking him out would be a long shot. he'd try to box and move and take a decision. same thing adamek would do.
I may remind you that Vitali has never been behind on the scoredcards at the end of any of his fights. Sure Chicken Little is fast on his feet, but Vitali is 6'8, he's got a good reach, he's got a very awkward style...I don't see anyone outpointing him. That would be the smart way to go but it doesn't mean it's an easy way
10-14-2010, 05:37 AM
Nameless
Re: Why haye could not beat vitali
If Vitali handed Sanders and LEwis best bombs without flinching.... there is no doubt that a fight with Haye would be for him like an all you can eat Chinese buffet. Plus, with his size and reach, you can bet that Haye won't have many chances to land anything flush on him. Strength wise, if Barrett and the two other guys in the videos above have been able to rock Haye bad with their shots, imagine what Vitali with a knock out ratio over 97% will do to his body when he'll start to land his bombs. It'll just be a systematical and methodic breakdown
10-14-2010, 09:23 AM
erics44
Re: Why haye could not beat vitali
arrrgg i read the first 3 or 4 words of el kabongs post then
10-18-2010, 07:35 PM
Drago
Re: Why haye could not beat vitali
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Originally Posted by Nameless
If Vitali handed Sanders and LEwis best bombs without flinching.... there is no doubt that a fight with Haye would be for him like an all you can eat Chinese buffet. Plus, with his size and reach, you can bet that Haye won't have many chances to land anything flush on him. Strength wise, if Barrett and the two other guys in the videos above have been able to rock Haye bad with their shots, imagine what Vitali with a knock out ratio over 97% will do to his body when he'll start to land his bombs. It'll just be a systematical and methodic breakdown
so haye has done the smart thing got everyone hyped abt him by saying how much he wants to fight the brothers then says cant come to a contractual agreemant
well done haye
10-19-2010, 02:16 PM
skel1983
Re: Why haye could not beat vitali
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Originally Posted by Nameless
If Vitali handed Sanders and LEwis best bombs without flinching.... there is no doubt that a fight with Haye would be for him like an all you can eat Chinese buffet. Plus, with his size and reach, you can bet that Haye won't have many chances to land anything flush on him. Strength wise, if Barrett and the two other guys in the videos above have been able to rock Haye bad with their shots, imagine what Vitali with a knock out ratio over 97% will do to his body when he'll start to land his bombs. It'll just be a systematical and methodic breakdown
Wtf is this Barrett rocking Haye? It didnt happen.
10-19-2010, 02:30 PM
Drago
Re: Why haye could not beat vitali
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by Nameless
If Vitali handed Sanders and LEwis best bombs without flinching.... there is no doubt that a fight with Haye would be for him like an all you can eat Chinese buffet. Plus, with his size and reach, you can bet that Haye won't have many chances to land anything flush on him. Strength wise, if Barrett and the two other guys in the videos above have been able to rock Haye bad with their shots, imagine what Vitali with a knock out ratio over 97% will do to his body when he'll start to land his bombs. It'll just be a systematical and methodic breakdown
Wtf is this Barrett rocking Haye? It didnt happen.
barrett rocked haye with a shot when he was on the floor
have you seen his head? it may or may not be the hardest but it looks like it should beQuote: