Which drills do you do specifically with the bands? Do you just shadowbox and work the bags and move about, and the bands help you develop feel through proper feet placement? I think I answered my own question, but I'm not sure. ;D
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Which drills do you do specifically with the bands? Do you just shadowbox and work the bags and move about, and the bands help you develop feel through proper feet placement? I think I answered my own question, but I'm not sure. ;D
The basic concept is the feel, Bigger the Feel the better the response, Feel is your fastest response goes direct to the nervous system. It works the bodys Proprereception abilitys qiuckly, your balance mechanisam alerts to it. I find it funny in Boxing that something new takes time to catch on. Yet i work with some very good and well known Footballers, who take to it like Ducks to water ;D, cant get enougth of it and pay me lots of money ;D.
the funny thing with balance, I see so many guys with very wide stances. I even see alot of pros with wide stances. The guys at my gym that box like that say they do it for balance... one guy even said its "physics", anything with a wider foundation has better support he told me. But I know that it decreases mobility. Is this the trade off? Or are they just getting the wrong signals?
Watch people walking, look at their natural gait, ask whys that.
A wide stance will leave you with major weak points/holes in your ability to move/evade/throw shots during certain times while moving around or boxing in the ring, as a boxer you want to cut this small holes or weaknesses down to as minimal as possible or alltogether completely, good fighters can get away with a wide stance, look at prince naseem, why did he get away with it? because he had the reflexes of a cat and could read an opponent well and make the fight go the direction he wanted which enabled him to get away with it, much like ali would, if your an average joe with average boxing skills with a narrower stance you will be a much better boxer than you would with a wide stance and a lot safer/in control in the ring for a larger % of the time, dont get me wrong even with a narrow stance you can find/put yourself in a situation or 2 here or there, but it definently cuts down the % of time where you are vulnerable in the ring due to not being as mobile as you could be, all you need to do is come across a better fighter with a wide stance and he will soon expose the point during moving and striking where you are vulnerable, in my oppinion the bands do this for you aswell. as the wobble board of scraps both of them will show you any weakness in any of your movements just try them out and youll soon find out if a knew movement is leaving you on balance in a good place to move fast ifneed be.
good explanation Wayne, thanks. I guess that's why it always to pays to watch form/technique and fundementatals from guys in the Olymipics or top national/regional tournments as opposed to guys to television. Nassem or Roy Jones Jr. have probably taughts guys scores of bad habits!;D
Thought I'd add some final thoughts to this thread as I've spent a bit of time thinking this through over the weekend. I think I'm in agreement with Wayne and Scrap in that elastic bads on the ankles would provide benefits in 2 areas i) giving a boxer a better 'feel' for the width of their stance and ii) developing some of the footwork-specific muscle groups. I intend over the next few months to introduce this into the gym and see what kind of response I get from the boxer, this will be an interesting period but until I check it out myself I'll reserve my judgement on the matter.
To add some persepctive though, I wanted to further address some common faults that occur with a boxer's stance and when the boxer uses his/her stance to move and which methods/tools might best be used to remedy these problems. To keep it simple, we'll not include side-stepping or diagonal feet movements. These links examine a version of the boxing stance and the boxer moving in and out. Some key faults, in my experience, that occur with the stance and movement are (in no particular order):
I can see how elastic bands on the ankles would assist in addressing points 1 and 2. Can the same be said on points 3 through 6, all very common faults and all serious in nature? Mirrors on the wall, a taped line on the floor and a boxer who has explained to them why all of the above points are bad technique I sense might address all points. We can talk about how wide spread a training method is, but what I can say with certainty is that coming from a city that has more boxing gyms per square mile than any other in the UK, I see in every gym that I visit mirrors on the walls and taped lines on the floor but I don't see elasticated manacles. Maybe this could be interpreted as lending support to Scrap's view that boxers are reluctant to take up new training methods or ideas in a way that say footballers might?
- The width of the boxer's stance will be too narrow or too wide.
- The boxer will step with the front foot and drag the back foot rather than pushing from the back foot which generates the explosive drive required for short, fast movement.
- The front foot will point towards the opponent rather than remaining at a fixed 45 degree angle (this causes massive problems with balance, particularly when throwing right hands.)
- The boxer's back foot will go in line with the front foot rather than being off-set (an imaginary line should run from the toe on the front foot to the heel on the back.)
- One or both feet become flat.
- The boxer will 'heel and toe' with the front foot rather than gliding (this means that during any given movement the boxer may be unable to throw decent shots for a certain percentage of that movement, a similar issue to that previously pointed out by Wayne.)
On the subject of footballers, whilst I am happy that a long queue of very good and well known footballers are waiting to pay Scrap their easy-earned money (good job Scrap!), I'm not sure that I'm ready to take as a consideration in my decision-making that fact that a footballer has invested in something. A certain footballer recently paid £1000 per night on what has to be said a very average looking hooker who he then nailed in his marital bed, so forgive me for taking no notice of what footballers do or don't do!
Great thread, now back to the day job
Fran
Fran enjoyed reading that ;D, as you say about the feet being parrelel. One way to solve it is get. Theelastic on the back foot tide to a ring post, they soon get the hang of it or get nasty burns on the inside of the calf if they bring there feet in line. Usually people who do it as a rule have weak groins.
Some great tips there Scrap. Time to find some elastic bands and wool-lined manacles!
Cheers
Fran,Quote:
Originally Posted by Fran@myboxingcoach
I used a cat collar for each leg... simple and cheap solution.
Fran, like this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tfDnj4Xwy0
See what you mean Scrap. Good stuff.
i think it is a good idea to use the elastic bands but the downside with them it might distract your form if they are to heavy