Re: Mayweather "...the pac maniacs will crucify you"
Good interview honest and factual opinions, imagine if someone said Freddy should die from parkinsons! they'd be rightly crucified but pretty much nothing is of limit with the Mayweathers, I mean I thought it was mad how everyone said Mayweather was homophobic when fight fans have been calling him a fag for ages.
Re: Mayweather "...the pac maniacs will crucify you"
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milmascaras1
it's really funny how mayweather haters say he's cherrypicked his opponents. while it may be true he has done that to an extent, it's also true that pacquiao has as well. consider these:
- TKO'd future a 38-1-1, prime Genaro Hernandez in 9.
- TKO9 a very in his prime, 35-1 Jesus Chavez.
- easily beat a prime Carlos Hernandez.
- destroyed an undefeated, 33-0 Diego Corrales.
- beat Jose Luis Castillo two times when Castillo was at his absolute best.
- defeated Jr. Middleweight Champion Oscar de la Hoya when Oscar wasn't dead drained.
- took Ricky Hatton's "0" from him and ruined him. he was never the same after mayweather got through with him.
- made Juan Manuel Marquez look terrible in winning a shutout decision. wasn't even close. this is the same marquez who BEAT pacquiao in their rematch and made pacquiao vow never to fight him again.
- beat a prime Zab Judah by UD12.
- made Shane Mosley his whipping boy for twelve rounds. this same Mosley came back to fight a very competitive fight against Sergio Mora.
i think concerning mayweather the fighter, there is definitely a double-double standard on this guy. people despise his persona because he's first and foremost, a businessman and he loves to "rattle the cage" to sell tickets. but there is a much quieter side of mayweather that people just refuse to see. when he's not promoting fights, he can be a very humble person at times.
Genaro Hernandez wasn't in his prime, but it was still a good win regardless for Floyd Mayweather Jr's coming out party.
Do you really count the JMM fight ? JMM looked bloated and had no business at Welterweight. He's pushing his luck at Lightweight, he's best weight was at Featherweight. It was a total mismatch and never should of happened, it's just JMM is too much of warrior for his own good at times.
Sergio Mora ? are you kidding me ? Sergio Mora is goodish at best, and i thought Shane Mosley looked bad in the fight, and his only good performance in years was against Antonio Margarito, who was destroyed mentally before the fight which was his own fault, because he's cheating S.O.B. But still my point stands.
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Mayweather is a loud mouth pussy I hate him! Pacquiao needs 2 show mw how 2 be humble respected balls of steel, plus the pacman can sing lol wot a legend! Got serious man love 4 that guy :) the fight needs 2 happen now b4 both there gloves get hung up! Give us what we want! Come on pacquiao :)
I believe this guy :lol: to be one of those that Jeff is speaking. I'll bet he didnt even read the article.
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Mayweather is a loud mouth pussy I hate him! Pacquiao needs 2 show mw how 2 be humble respected balls of steel, plus the pacman can sing lol wot a legend! Got serious man love 4 that guy :) the fight needs 2 happen now b4 both there gloves get hung up! Give us what we want! Come on pacquiao :)
I believe this guy :lol: to be one of those that Jeff is speaking. I'll bet he didnt even read the article.
An obvious alt, (IMO).
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Razorsharp
Mayweather is a loud mouth pussy I hate him! Pacquiao needs 2 show mw how 2 be humble respected balls of steel, plus the pacman can sing lol wot a legend! Got serious man love 4 that guy :) the fight needs 2 happen now b4 both there gloves get hung up! Give us what we want! Come on pacquiao :)
I believe this guy :lol: to be one of those that Jeff is speaking. I'll bet he didnt even read the article.
Alright the Filipino has got some or should I say plenty of fan boys who happens to land in this forum. But man if you were really a purist and ain't a fan boy you wouldn't even pay attention to 'em like you said how he didn't even read the article.
I thought Pacquiao just have a larger fan base unlike Floyd. A large bin would mean there can be more empty cans who has a computer and internet connection and would have a high probability of landing in this forum after googleing "PACQUIAO".
I also thought big Floyd, Roger and Jeff Mayweather are all empnty cans these days. Quite frankly I think Floyd doesn't need a trainer, his father or his uncles in his career. An average trainer could have made him the greatest fighter of this era. :-\
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JonesJrMayweather
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Razorsharp
Mayweather is a loud mouth pussy I hate him! Pacquiao needs 2 show mw how 2 be humble respected balls of steel, plus the pacman can sing lol wot a legend! Got serious man love 4 that guy :) the fight needs 2 happen now b4 both there gloves get hung up! Give us what we want! Come on pacquiao :)
I believe this guy :lol: to be one of those that Jeff is speaking. I'll bet he didnt even read the article.
Alright the Filipino has got some or should I say plenty of fan boys who happens to land in this forum. But man if you were really a purist and ain't a fan boy you wouldn't even pay attention to 'em like you said how he didn't even read the article.
I thought Pacquiao just have a larger fan base unlike Floyd. A large bin would mean there can be more empty cans who has a computer and internet connection and would have a high probability of landing in this forum after googleing "PACQUIAO".
I also thought big Floyd, Roger and Jeff Mayweather are all empnty cans these days. Quite frankly I think Floyd doesn't need a trainer, his father or his uncles in his career. An average trainer could have made him the greatest fighter of this era. :-\
Have you ever seen Floyd senior fight? He's directly responsible for Floyd's style, without his teachings Floyd wouldn't be as good as he is. I also believe that he could easily train a fighter to beat Floyd. It's easy to say that floyd doesn't need a trainer when he's so good, because we haven't seen him in a fight where he's being constantly tested. I remember the first Castillo fight, where he was constantly asking his corner's advice. All fighters need a second pair of eyes on their fights to help them see things that they might not be able to see, and to help them adjust very quickly.
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Have you ever seen Floyd senior fight? He's directly responsible for Floyd's style, without his teachings Floyd wouldn't be as good as he is. I also believe that he could easily train a fighter to beat Floyd. It's easy to say that floyd doesn't need a trainer when he's so good, because we haven't seen him in a fight where he's being constantly tested. I remember the first Castillo fight, where he was constantly asking his corner's advice. All fighters need a second pair of eyes on their fights to help them see things that they might not be able to see, and to help them adjust very quickly.
And not enough fighters have the smarts or the faith in their corner to ask "What do I do?" and then the skill and courage to follow through with that advice. I will give Floyd mad props for that he's a very smart fighter which he probably doesn't get enough credit for, most people get impressed by his talent, but he's very smart, very cagey too for such a slick fighter.
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milmascaras1
oh, and pacquiao doesn't "handpick" his opponents? :rolleyes:
Got this from another Forum.
Pac fought Cotto, Clottey and Margarito
Margarito fought Cotto, Clottey, Shane and Pac
Cotto fought Margarito, Clottey, Shane and Pac
Clottey fought Cotto, Margarito and Pac
Shane fought Cotto, Margarito, and Floyd
Floyd fought Shane.
yeah i think Pac fought most of those that he should at Welterweights. Pac fought all that Matters at 126-130. The only question should only be at 135 having only David Diaz in there.
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milmascaras1
oh, and pacquiao doesn't "handpick" his opponents? :rolleyes:
Got this from another Forum.
Pac fought Cotto, Clottey and Margarito
Margarito fought Cotto, Clottey, Shane and Pac
Cotto fought Margarito, Clottey, Shane and Pac
Clottey fought Cotto, Margarito and Pac
Shane fought Cotto, Margarito, and Floyd
Floyd fought Shane.
yeah i think Pac fought most of those that he should at Welterweights. Pac fought all that Matters at 126-130. The only question should only be at 135 having only David Diaz in there.
In hindsight he can be more than forgiven for that, although I think he still makes 135 comfortably and if the Floyd fight falls through again I think he should drop down and fight JMM there providing he beats Katsidis this weekend.
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Everyone seems to be sayin jmm is goin to beat katsidis! Now in his prime I think he would but he's had his day, and katsidis has the heart of a lion and is goin to rush him! Think it's goin to be a 6th round knockout, and I think pacquiao v katsidis would be an awesome match up! But what do I know I stumbled across this forum on google lol
People are saying it because it's happened before, Juan Diaz done it pretty comfortably. And as i said in the other thread if Juan Diaz can do it, JMM will do it. Michael Katsidis has got slightly overrated for beating Kevin Mitchell.
I mean he's exciting and likeable fighter, but JMM is a master counter puncher. And yes JMM has showed some age as of late, but he's still a very good top fighter. And based on his last fight i still think he has enough to beat someone like Michael Katsidis.
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oh, and pacquiao doesn't "handpick" his opponents? :rolleyes:
Just their weight... ;)
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miron_lang
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oh, and pacquiao doesn't "handpick" his opponents? :rolleyes:
Got this from another Forum.
Pac fought Cotto, Clottey and Margarito
Margarito fought Cotto, Clottey, Shane and Pac
Cotto fought Margarito, Clottey, Shane and Pac
Clottey fought Cotto, Margarito and Pac
Shane fought Cotto, Margarito, and Floyd
Floyd fought Shane.
yeah i think Pac fought most of those that he should at Welterweights. Pac fought all that Matters at 126-130. The only question should only be at 135 having only David Diaz in there.
In hindsight he can be more than forgiven for that, although I think he still makes 135 comfortably and if the Floyd fight falls through again I think he should drop down and fight JMM there providing he beats Katsidis this weekend.
If he fights JMM again even at 135, it's going to be said that Manny cherry picked Floyd's leftovers that Floyd fought JMM before Manny. And that Manny fought a old washed up fighter while Floyd fought a better version of JMM. Fact.;)
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rjj tszyu
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miron_lang
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milmascaras1
oh, and pacquiao doesn't "handpick" his opponents? :rolleyes:
Got this from another Forum.
Pac fought Cotto, Clottey and Margarito
Margarito fought Cotto, Clottey, Shane and Pac
Cotto fought Margarito, Clottey, Shane and Pac
Clottey fought Cotto, Margarito and Pac
Shane fought Cotto, Margarito, and Floyd
Floyd fought Shane.
yeah i think Pac fought most of those that he should at Welterweights. Pac fought all that Matters at 126-130. The only question should only be at 135 having only David Diaz in there.
In hindsight he can be more than forgiven for that, although I think he still makes 135 comfortably and if the Floyd fight falls through again I think he should drop down and fight JMM there providing he beats Katsidis this weekend.
If he fights JMM again even at 135, it's going to be said that Manny cherry picked Floyd's leftovers that Floyd fought JMM before Manny. And that Manny fought a old washed up fighter while Floyd fought a better version of JMM. Fact.;)
Lol.
I see it the other way around. Juan was Pac's leftover for Floyd (FACT!;)). Floyd fought a slow and bloated Juan after he cheated him on the scale. And Manny fought a fresh and comfy Juan... TWICE!
Imo, Floyd wouldn't even dare go down to JMM's 135 comfort zone. But Manny would, and could win it.