Re: Judah says Khan v Judah is nearly a done deal
Just a week later and Khan is close to signing another fight? Doubt it!!! Zab is talking out his . . . ! And I'm a strong Zab supporter. But IMO, he's not all there anymore. Khan should be able to stop him. On the other hand, Khan is talking the talk. Wait until Bradley vs Alexander is done then look for a fight against the winner. Use these four week to get the webs out.
Re: Judah says Khan v Judah is nearly a done deal
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(Is it crazy that I still regard Khan as a prospect ??? )
Not really mate, check around the forums, there are many who still think Manny Pacquaio is unproven at the highest level.
:D Ha! Really?
Well I don't know about that. I just feel that although Khan has won a title or two, his career is still on an ascension that precedes the assumed elite level.
I dunno, he's still a kid ???
Re: Judah says Khan v Judah is nearly a done deal
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I've only just watched the Maidana fight. I don't think I have ever seen quicker hand speed than Khan! Also, I was majorly impresseed with his chin, he took some ferocious shots froma huge puncher! I still have my doubts about him though :-\ Zab is a dangerous fight for which Khan probably won't get much credit. i.e If he wins, people just say Judah was washed up and had lost 6 times before.
Well Zab Judah has been on the slide for quite sometime now, i didn't see his last fight. But i looked at the scores and it seems he was lucky to get nod, he was also floored in the 10th round in the fight.
Zab Judah is just a gatekeeper now, the only fighter he's beat in ages worth mentioning is Santa Cruz who is really a Lightweight.
It's a decent fight for Amir Khan, but don't make out this fight. Is anything other than just to further Amir Khan's name in USA.
Because Zab Judah isn't a top level fighter anymore, and i don't know why he's at Jr Welterweight to be honest. Because dropping weight isn't going to help matters.
But its a decent fight and it makes sense in someways. But i would rather Amir Khan revenge his loss, i'd give him more credit for doing that.
Re: Judah says Khan v Judah is nearly a done deal
I think there are definitely easier opponents out there for Khan than Zab, but I do think Khan will have too much for him.
Unlike Ice I think junior welter is why Zab should be. The fights he was losing at welterweight were to bigger guys who just outstrenghted him, and he faded down the stretch.
Mayythyse was a big junior welter with a very strong physical presence and again Zab, after winning most of the early rounds faded.
It's hard to imagine Zab being able to fight hard for 12 rounds. I've always thought of him as being like Victor Ortiz (or rather Ortiz being like Judah) in that he wilts under pressure. Faced with a tough challenge he stops punching and imo looks for a way out.
Khan never does that and that will mean he's likely to finish stronger imo.
Judah's best shot will be inside the first 4-6 rounds, after that it's likely to be all Khan.
As Khan is a pretty fast starter himself it's going to be hard for Zab to make any impression on this fight imo.
He has to land something big and hurt Khan early, or else he's just getting another beating from a bigger, stronger, younger, hungrier guy.
I think Khan wins late.
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I think there are definitely easier opponents out there for Khan than Zab, but I do think Khan will have too much for him.
Unlike Ice I think junior welter is why Zab should be. The fights he was losing at welterweight were to bigger guys who just outstrenghted him, and he faded down the stretch.
Mayythyse was a big junior welter with a very strong physical presence and again Zab, after winning most of the early rounds faded.
It's hard to imagine Zab being able to fight hard for 12 rounds. I've always thought of him as being like Victor Ortiz (or rather Ortiz being like Judah) in that he wilts under pressure. Faced with a tough challenge he stops punching and imo looks for a way out.
Khan never does that and that will mean he's likely to finish stronger imo.
Judah's best shot will be inside the first 4-6 rounds, after that it's likely to be all Khan.
As Khan is a pretty fast starter himself it's going to be hard for Zab to make any impression on this fight imo.
He has to land something big and hurt Khan early, or else he's just getting another beating from a bigger, stronger, younger, hungrier guy.
I think Khan wins late.
I think Khan stops him late on aswell. Having said that, Khan can surprise early on, so who knows. I'll just go with a Khan stoppage win. Judah has a chance if Khan gets wild and doesn't judge the distance quick enough. Should be fairly straight forward for him though. Too much output. Judah is 'wilty' for want of a better word.
Re: Judah says Khan v Judah is nearly a done deal
Interesting fight. Judah has the tools to stop anyone at 140 but he simply doesn't throw enough punches. Judah just postures too much and his jab is sh!t now. He's clearly a stepping stone and not a real contender anymore. Should be competitive for a couple rounds though until Khan stops him around 9 or 10. Khan seems very nervous in the ring though, anxiety's effect of his stamina will be his undoing once he steps up to the elite level.
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I think there are definitely easier opponents out there for Khan than Zab, but I do think Khan will have too much for him.
Unlike Ice I think junior welter is why Zab should be. The fights he was losing at welterweight were to bigger guys who just outstrenghted him, and he faded down the stretch.
Mayythyse was a big junior welter with a very strong physical presence and again Zab, after winning most of the early rounds faded.
It's hard to imagine Zab being able to fight hard for 12 rounds. I've always thought of him as being like Victor Ortiz (or rather Ortiz being like Judah) in that he wilts under pressure. Faced with a tough challenge he stops punching and imo looks for a way out.
Khan never does that and that will mean he's likely to finish stronger imo.
Judah's best shot will be inside the first 4-6 rounds, after that it's likely to be all Khan.
As Khan is a pretty fast starter himself it's going to be hard for Zab to make any impression on this fight imo.
He has to land something big and hurt Khan early, or else he's just getting another beating from a bigger, stronger, younger, hungrier guy.
I think Khan wins late.
I think Khan stops him late on aswell. Having said that, Khan can surprise early on, so who knows. I'll just go with a Khan stoppage win. Judah has a chance if Khan gets wild and doesn't judge the distance quick enough. Should be fairly straight forward for him though. Too much output. Judah is 'wilty' for want of a better word.
Amir Khan always gets wild.
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I think there are definitely easier opponents out there for Khan than Zab, but I do think Khan will have too much for him.
Unlike Ice I think junior welter is why Zab should be. The fights he was losing at welterweight were to bigger guys who just outstrenghted him, and he faded down the stretch.
Mayythyse was a big junior welter with a very strong physical presence and again Zab, after winning most of the early rounds faded.
It's hard to imagine Zab being able to fight hard for 12 rounds. I've always thought of him as being like Victor Ortiz (or rather Ortiz being like Judah) in that he wilts under pressure. Faced with a tough challenge he stops punching and imo looks for a way out.
Khan never does that and that will mean he's likely to finish stronger imo.
Judah's best shot will be inside the first 4-6 rounds, after that it's likely to be all Khan.
As Khan is a pretty fast starter himself it's going to be hard for Zab to make any impression on this fight imo.
He has to land something big and hurt Khan early, or else he's just getting another beating from a bigger, stronger, younger, hungrier guy.
I think Khan wins late.
I think Khan stops him late on aswell. Having said that, Khan can surprise early on, so who knows. I'll just go with a Khan stoppage win. Judah has a chance if Khan gets wild and doesn't judge the distance quick enough. Should be fairly straight forward for him though. Too much output. Judah is 'wilty' for want of a better word.
Amir Khan always gets wild.
That's true, he can look a little clumsy and off balance at times. If he keeps this to a minimum, he should have few problems here though.
Re: Judah says Khan v Judah is nearly a done deal
i see this as an easy victory (points wise) for khan. i just think he's in his physical prime, and zab isn't what he used to be. khan UD12 117-111.
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Khan by mid-round KO.
Did anyone see Judah in his last fight?
Re: Judah says Khan v Judah is nearly a done deal
This fight is ok as Khan is getting back in the ring and wants a fight in the uk, but lets be real Judah is not the fighter he was and I fancy Khan to finish him similar to the Paulie fight.
Re: Judah says Khan v Judah is nearly a done deal
I'm not high on khan but i see him beating judah. Hell i see almost any fighter beating judah cause he usually just beats himself.
Re: Judah says Khan v Judah is nearly a done deal
This looks a better match up on paper than it probably is in reality. Sure Zab has power and could KO Khan but how long has it been sinc Zab looked good? 5 years? More? I think Zab has about a 5% chance of KOing Khan early and if he doesnt Amir boxes him to an easy UD.
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The old Zab would absolutely crush Khan.
It's a shame.
Maybe Zab will go all out for this one and we'll see a bit of what he once was.
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The old Zab would absolutely crush Khan.
It's a shame.
Maybe Zab will go all out for this one and we'll see a bit of what he once was.
I don't really agree with that. Zab's always been Zab. He's always had the ability to be brilliant, but he's always been capable of being poor. Just never had the mental capability to be consistent throughout a single fight, let alone throughout his career.
I'm sure when people talk about positively about Zab, they must only be remembering the first round against Tyszyu and the first 3 or 4 against Mayweather, where to be fair Mayweather probably hindered himself with his gigantic comedy gloves.
So basically, on either end of the spectrum you have a solid win over Cory Spinks, and then 2 defeats, where he initially looked good, before losing there-by causing a ring riot. In the middle of that spectrum, you have losses to Spinks, Baldomir, Clottey and Cotto.
So yeah, Zab's always been Zab.