I'm going to throw Joe Calzaghe in there. Been down plenty, but his recovery powers are insane. I've never really seen him in trouble and i've seen him take some pretty heavy bombs. That uppercut from Jones was lethal.
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I'm going to throw Joe Calzaghe in there. Been down plenty, but his recovery powers are insane. I've never really seen him in trouble and i've seen him take some pretty heavy bombs. That uppercut from Jones was lethal.
Yeah I know. But he can really take a hell of a dig all the same.Quote:
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Are you serious?
He has been down a good few times.
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Originally Posted by The GrinchYeah I know. But he can really take a hell of a dig all the same.Quote:
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Are you serious?
He has been down a good few times.
But not in "The best chins of our era" catogary I would not have thought.:rolleyes:
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Yes Calzaghe could take a punch and recover very fast from one and fire back.
I always thought De la Hoya had a very good chin.
Sugar Shane has a great beard.
Bernard Hopkins has been down on a few occasions but never in serious danger.
Antonio Margarito is an obvious one.
You must be joking, he had one of the best Heavyweight jabs of the modern era. Infact he outjabbed Lennox Lewis, so he must of been able to box a bit.Quote:
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;D Cool.Quote:
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Originally Posted by The GrinchYeah I know. But he can really take a hell of a dig all the same.Quote:
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Are you serious?
He has been down a good few times.
But not in "The best chins of our era" catogary I would not have thought.:rolleyes:
Another one has to be Evander.
No it was just our era...Retired or not,,,,From the way you look at the list seems like they only went back to the mid 90's....If it was an all time list there would be many different names on it....Lite ETM stated in his post about Chuvalo...If it was an all time list I don't think I personally could truly make one of just 5 guys...McCall is a good one for sure in truth he has never been stopped his only stoppage loss on record came due to his mental breakdown in the ring against Lennox and it was stopped because he would not fight not due to a beating so yeah McCall is a good nameQuote:
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You know I thought of Joe as one of the guys who just came shy but because he had been knocked down so many times I thought maybe it was not the best choice...I mean Joe always got back up and I don't think I ever rememeberr him hurt badlyQuote:
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Yeah Ray was under rated for sure...I think Ray was more a victim of being the WBO champion taking it seriously when the belt was not too favored on and he did give Lennox a hell of a time and Lennox was a master boxer....Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBYou must be joking, he had one of the best Heavyweight jabs of the modern era. Infact he outjabbed Lennox Lewis, so he must of been able to box a bit.Quote:
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Walking a fine line on some no? Though with a list like this it is hard to put guys on who have been down but gotten back up to fight on several occassions when there are guys out there who have never been down like Vitali who has never been down or guys like Shane who has only been down once and these guys have been fighting at the elite level for so long still managing to stay down.....I do though personally try to think at what point the knockdowns happened...Toney at HW against a monstor puncher like Peter when Toney was not a treu HW just a fat ass I really don't hold it against him....The body shots like the one DLH suffered I don't hold against him because I don't care how good your chin is you get a liver shot clean on and you are going down.....I love how you updated Williams from your list ha ha
I don't think you can really count guys with great recovery powers or big hearts etc as would be the case with JMM and Calzaghe. Sure they have/had very good chins, but more so elite boxing skills which make it very hard to land(or follow up with) the type of shots that truly finish guys off, at least with any consistensy. Mayorga absolutely had one of the best chins of our era for the lower weights, the problem is that he relied on it and it got dented. If Calzaghe or Marquez fought like Mayorga did for a while no doubt they would have easily been knocked out, as is the case with the vast majority of fighters of any calibre. Watch him fight Vernon Forrest again, or Trinidad(both VERY capable of knocking guys cold). I can't really think of any other fighter who could actually use their chin as a weapon like that with any success. Mosley is about as freakishly tough as they come as well. Only Forrest ever actually hurt him and I suspect the headbutt is what actually did it for the most part. I can't really argue with the list other than adding Mayorga I guess.
Marcus Villasana (spelling) took bombs from Hodgkinson and just kept coming.
Gerry Penalosa
Shane Mosley, look at the shots he took off Mayweather which wobbled him, and I'm sure would have dropped damn near anyone. Even though he was wobbled badly a few times his chin had enough to take particularly as he got caught clean so many times.
James Toney, although part of this with him was his defensive ability to roll off the shot, which I think takes a lot of the credit.
Andrade, Margarito & Mayorga. All three of these guys are arguably the most impressive as they never roll off the shot they walk onto it and keep walking. That to me is the epitome of a great chin.
I also think that if people are throwing JMM & Calzaghe out there, then you've got to say Pacquiao & Mayweather. I think Manny has an extremely underrated chin, especially when you look at how he stayed up from some of the shots he took from JMM, while Mayweather has never really been dropped, as the Hernandez KD wasn't a KD, while the Judah one which should have counted wasn't really a drop. I think a lot of that is defensive ability, but when he's taken big shots he's always come back pretty quickly. Also Manny has taken hard shots off some serious guys & not looked like dropping.
Abraham has a pretty good chin when you look at some of the shots he took off Miranda & Froch.
For me in a lot of ways the best has to be Glen Johnson. Very rarely seriously hurt, but he probably edges it for me in totality, because he's never been down, I've seen him take big shots, recover & come back or sometimes act like nothing has happened. He does all of this largely on the front foot which impresses me that bit more.