Re: Marquez vs. Morales deal reached for April 9th, WBC Diamond Belt at stake as well
Erik Morales Signs Contract To Close Marquez Deal - Boxing News
The reason this is for the WBC diamond belt is that the fight is at 140. So Khan vs. Maidana and Bradley vs. Alexander are not diamond belt material fights, but the diamond belt is on the line for 2 fighters who have never had a top fight within the weightclass. What a fucking joke the WBC are. This is a stupid way to crown the 1st mexican 4 division champion, and quite frankly shouldn't count in any record book.
Re: Marquez vs. Morales deal reached for April 9th, WBC Diamond Belt at stake as well
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bzkfn
Erik Morales Signs Contract To Close Marquez Deal - Boxing News
The reason this is for the WBC diamond belt is that the fight is at 140. So Khan vs. Maidana and Bradley vs. Alexander are not diamond belt material fights, but the diamond belt is on the line for 2 fighters who have never had a top fight within the weightclass. What a fucking joke the WBC are. This is a stupid way to crown the 1st mexican 4 division champion, and quite frankly shouldn't count in any record book.
Complete and utter joke man, can't stand this shit. The fight, i'm sure, is at 140 because Morales can't make weight at 135 anymore. This fight absolutely stinks IMHO.
Re: Marquez vs. Morales deal reached for April 9th, WBC Diamond Belt at stake as well
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bzkfn
Erik Morales Signs Contract To Close Marquez Deal - Boxing News
The reason this is for the WBC diamond belt is that the fight is at 140. So Khan vs. Maidana and Bradley vs. Alexander are not diamond belt material fights, but the diamond belt is on the line for 2 fighters who have never had a top fight within the weightclass. What a fucking joke the WBC are. This is a stupid way to crown the 1st mexican 4 division champion, and quite frankly shouldn't count in any record book.
But the WBC daimond belt would probably fetch a good price on ebay.
Re: Marquez vs. Morales deal reached for April 9th, WBC Diamond Belt at stake as well
Why do people continually call the Diamond Belt a Joke? It is not a Title Belt and not meant to be one. It is honorary recognition of two great fighters by the WBC.
It cost $50K to make and will probably carries more tangible value than that. And that is no Joke!
I think too many writers write negative things about this belt and incorrectly label it a "joke title"
Re: Marquez vs. Morales deal reached for April 9th, WBC Diamond Belt at stake as well
My question is: Does the Diamond belt count as the 4th title in a different division? If not I don't know why Morales wants this fight. Unless he's really confident, because he should just wait for one of the other titles which he would have a better chance at IMO.
Re: Marquez vs. Morales deal reached for April 9th, WBC Diamond Belt at stake as well
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My question is: Does the Diamond belt count as the 4th title in a different division? If not I don't know why Morales wants this fight. Unless he's really confident, because he should just wait for one of the other titles which he would have a better chance at IMO.
The Diamond belt only counts as a prize and has no ranking value whatsoever.
Isn't it all about the man who beat the man? If Morales beats Marquez even if it's not sanctioned, it's a moral victory, which is becoming if not more credible than the ABC Belt itself. It should put him back on the P4P list but it won't, because everyone will say Marquez got old.
Re: Marquez vs. Morales deal reached for April 9th, WBC Diamond Belt at stake as well
I don't care about what any of you guys say but this fight is appealing to me and hell yea I will be watching.
Two great Mexican fighting to be the first Mexican to gain a 4th division title. Who cares if its a made up title, its still two great fighters fighting for it.
Re: Marquez vs. Morales deal reached for April 9th, WBC Diamond Belt at stake as well
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fan johnny
Why do people continually call the Diamond Belt a Joke? It is not a Title Belt and not meant to be one. It is honorary recognition of two great fighters by the WBC.
It cost $50K to make and will probably carries more tangible value than that. And that is no Joke!
I think too many writers write negative things about this belt and incorrectly label it a "joke title"
You're kidding right? The reason everyone is mocking it is because if the WBC gave any credence to their regular title, then there would be no need for a diamond belt. This is a shameless PR exercise and nothing more. For gods sake, does boxing really require any more distortion with its friggin champions?
To say this fight deserves diamond status when the best 4 fighters at 140 just fought each other is a joke and has only been awarded because both these guys are Mexican. I'm a huge Marquez fan, but really this is not the way for him to go, and he is much better than this. I can only assume he's gone down this 140 diamond route to have a diamond unification fight with Pacquiao.
Diamond unification...how ridiculous does that sound? How about they have the fight at Welter for the interim diamond championship? :rolleyes: What a load of shit.
Re: Marquez vs. Morales deal reached for April 9th, WBC Diamond Belt at stake as well
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bzkfn
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fan johnny
Why do people continually call the Diamond Belt a Joke? It is not a Title Belt and not meant to be one. It is honorary recognition of two great fighters by the WBC.
It cost $50K to make and will probably carries more tangible value than that. And that is no Joke!
I think too many writers write negative things about this belt and incorrectly label it a "joke title"
You're kidding right? The reason everyone is mocking it is because
if the WBC gave any credence to their regular title, then there would be no need for a diamond belt. This is a shameless PR exercise and nothing more. For gods sake,
does boxing really require any more distortion with its friggin champions?
To say this fight deserves diamond status when the best 4 fighters at 140 just fought each other is a joke and has only been awarded because both these guys are Mexican. I'm a huge Marquez fan, but really this is not the way for him to go, and he is much better than this. I can only assume he's gone down this 140 diamond route to have a diamond unification fight with Pacquiao.
Diamond unification...how ridiculous does that sound? How about they have the fight at Welter for the interim diamond championship? :rolleyes: What a load of shit.
Exactly why I say incorrectly labeled.
There is no ranking significance. The WBC could have called it a "Diamond Trophy" and they would have avoided confusion.
Re: Marquez vs. Morales deal reached for April 9th, WBC Diamond Belt at stake as well
Apparently this fight is still not signed and sealed. Hopefully it stays that way..................
Re: Marquez vs. Morales deal reached for April 9th, WBC Diamond Belt at stake as well
If this deal is not reached, please, everyone please,
scream JMM vs Bradley
Re: Marquez vs. Morales deal reached for April 9th, WBC Diamond Belt at stake as well
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Ant Live
If this deal is not reached, please, everyone please,
scream JMM vs Bradley
You know, I think that would be a great fight Ant man..... In no way do i wanna see JMM Morales...
I'd love to see JMM vs Guerrero TBH.
Re: Marquez vs. Morales deal reached for April 9th, WBC Diamond Belt at stake as well
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TheMacMagician
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Ant Live
If this deal is not reached, please, everyone please,
scream JMM vs Bradley
You know, I think that would be a great fight Ant man..... In no way do i wanna see JMM Morales...
I'd love to see JMM vs Guerrero TBH.
Let the Ghost fight Morales on the Bradley vs JMM undercard!!!:o
Re: Marquez vs. Morales deal reached for April 9th, WBC Diamond Belt at stake as well
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TheMacMagician
Apparently this fight is still not signed and sealed. Hopefully it stays that way..................
I think not...
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Erik Morales Signs Contract To Close Marquez Deal
By Jose Antonio Soriano, notifight.com
According to the father of Tijuana's Erik "El Terrible" Morales, both his son and fellow three-time world champion Juan Manuel Marquez, have signed contracts for an all-Mexican clash on April 9 in Las Vegas. The fight between Erik Morales and Marquez will be at junior welterweight (140 pounds) and the Diamond Belt of the World Boxing Council (WBC) will be on the line. The fight between both Mexican fighters was made by Golden Boy Promotions.
"I'm glad that we came to a successful conclusion in our negotiations to carry out this fight," said Jose "Olive Grove" Morales, father and coach of Erik Morales. "Hopefully, both fighters give it a good show and a great fight for the fans. I know that both Erik and Juan Manuel will arrive in perfect condition on the day of the fight. I will do my best for my child to win.
It is expected that Morales will begin training this week at the Otomi Ceremonial Center.
