Re: Team McCloskey reveal (in detail) why fight with Khan is off
You earn X amount of money for your previous fight, would you like to earn twice as much as that and have a crack at a 'world' title?
It seems like a pretty straight forward choice to me?
That said Khans mob do sound like muppets in general.
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Violent Demise
I'm not a huge fan of Con the way i am of Manny Pacquiao and was of Joe Calzaghe. I'm only an average fan of Con. It's pretty obvious Con wants to dictate everything here. Some of his counter offers are just moronic (25% on sales over 200000). But at the same time doesn't Paul McCloskey realize he's only Paul McCloskey? Why the fuck is he trying to negotiate like he's actually somebody? He's no Tim Bradley or Marcos Maidana. He ain't even a Julio Diaz or Willy Blain. Bradley and Maidana are 2 of the division top stars. Diaz is a shot former champion. But he was a champion. Blain at least can say he's a 2 time Olympian amateur star. Paul McCloskey is like Paul McCloskey. And Paul McCloskey's don't get to make demands. His team admitted the offer was twice what he ever made. Does he not know getting doubled what you ever made is actually a good thing? Unless his previous highest purse was $12 dollars what the fuck is the problem? Your Paul McCloskey. How much have you deluded yourself into thinking your worth? It's obvious Con is deadly afraid of Precott and wants the easiest fight possible. So do everyone a favor and take the fight. The faster you accept the faster this charade is over. Not only that but the chances of you losing to a fellow scrub like Graeme Higginson or Peter McDonagh are pretty fucking high. I doubt the offer will still be on the table after that
Agreed 100%. I don't see how McCloskey has deluded himself into thinking he deserves more. I don't enjoy watching his fights, he's not that entertaining. He's not world class and I don't think he ever will be. Take the fight now and hope to get lucky, because I don't see him getting himself into a box office position. - I'm glad he hasn't though, almost every other name in the frame is a fight I'd rather see.
Re: Team McCloskey reveal (in detail) why fight with Khan is off
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Memphis
You earn X amount of money for your previous fight, would you like to earn twice as much as that and have a crack at a 'world' title?
It seems like a pretty straight forward choice to me?
That said Khans mob do sound like muppets in general.
I really don't understand why he won't take the offer. The man would be making double what he made for what is 95% likely to be less than 3 minutes of work.
Re: Team McCloskey reveal (in detail) why fight with Khan is off
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Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
Memphis
You earn X amount of money for your previous fight, would you like to earn twice as much as that and have a crack at a 'world' title?
It seems like a pretty straight forward choice to me?
That said Khans mob do sound like muppets in general.
I really don't understand why he won't take the offer. The man would be making double what he made for what is 95% likely to be less than 3 minutes of work.
Well i think he'd last 3 or 4 rounds. Even then, on a round by round basis he'd technically be earning 4x as much as he did in his last fight.
Not sure what the deal is really. He'll be fighting in prizefighter in 18 months time anyway. May aswell cash in now.
Re: Team McCloskey reveal (in detail) why fight with Khan is off
Double payday sounds perfectly reasonable, however, McCloskey's best payday to date is probably about £30,000, so £60,000 for facing Khan isn't exactly life changing money, is it? He could make more than that with a few defences of the Euro title, in winnable fights.
I believe the main problem with that deal is the rematch options. If McCloskey wins, he fights Khan again for a set cash amount on their promotion. Basically he has to beat Khan TWICE for probably less than £200,000. While Khan would cash in even coming off a loss (all these figures could be way off ;) ).
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Fenster
Double payday sounds perfectly reasonable, however, McCloskey's best payday to date is probably about £30,000, so £60,000 for facing Khan isn't exactly life changing money, is it? He could make more than that with a few defences of the Euro title, in winnable fights.
I believe the main problem with that deal is the rematch options. If McCloskey wins.
:lolhaha: Somebody seriously needs to tap him on the shoulder, whisper in his ear and remind him "your Paul McCloskey. Your not winning"
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Violent Demise
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Fenster
Double payday sounds perfectly reasonable, however, McCloskey's best payday to date is probably about £30,000, so £60,000 for facing Khan isn't exactly life changing money, is it? He could make more than that with a few defences of the Euro title, in winnable fights.
I believe the main problem with that deal is the rematch options. If McCloskey wins.
:lolhaha: Somebody seriously needs to tap him on the shoulder, whisper in his ear and remind him "your Paul McCloskey. Your not winning"
In that case there is no need to take the fight, right? He might as well make that money defending his Euro title ;)
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Fenster
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Violent Demise
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Fenster
Double payday sounds perfectly reasonable, however, McCloskey's best payday to date is probably about £30,000, so £60,000 for facing Khan isn't exactly life changing money, is it? He could make more than that with a few defences of the Euro title, in winnable fights.
I believe the main problem with that deal is the rematch options. If McCloskey wins.
:lolhaha: Somebody seriously needs to tap him on the shoulder, whisper in his ear and remind him "your Paul McCloskey. Your not winning"
In that case there is no need to take the fight, right? He might as well make that money defending his Euro title ;)
Unless Calzaghe makes a return and is in need of an opponent what other chance does McCloskey have of actually being the main event on a PPV show?
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Fenster
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Violent Demise
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Fenster
Double payday sounds perfectly reasonable, however, McCloskey's best payday to date is probably about £30,000, so £60,000 for facing Khan isn't exactly life changing money, is it? He could make more than that with a few defences of the Euro title, in winnable fights.
I believe the main problem with that deal is the rematch options. If McCloskey wins.
:lolhaha: Somebody seriously needs to tap him on the shoulder, whisper in his ear and remind him "your Paul McCloskey. Your not winning"
In that case there is no need to take the fight, right? He might as well make that money defending his Euro title ;)
Unless Calzaghe makes a return and is in need of an opponent what other chance does McCloskey have of actually being the main event on a PPV show?
What does PPV matter if you're not getting any money for it? And even worse, like you said, gets slaughtered in a round.
Re: Team McCloskey reveal (in detail) why fight with Khan is off
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Boxing would b better without khan. Fu cking arshole
Explain how boxing would be better without one of its most exciting young boxers?
Re: Team McCloskey reveal (in detail) why fight with Khan is off
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Violent Demise
I'm not a huge fan of Con the way i am of Manny Pacquiao and was of Joe Calzaghe. I'm only an average fan of Con. It's pretty obvious Con wants to dictate everything here. Some of his counter offers are just moronic (25% on sales over 200000). But at the same time doesn't Paul McCloskey realize he's only Paul McCloskey? Why the fuck is he trying to negotiate like he's actually somebody? He's no Tim Bradley or Marcos Maidana. He ain't even a Julio Diaz or Willy Blain. Bradley and Maidana are 2 of the division top stars. Diaz is a shot former champion. But he was a champion. Blain at least can say he's a 2 time Olympian amateur star. Paul McCloskey is like Paul McCloskey. And Paul McCloskey's don't get to make demands. His team admitted the offer was twice what he ever made. Does he not know getting doubled what you ever made is actually a good thing? Unless his previous highest purse was $12 dollars what the fuck is the problem? Your Paul McCloskey. How much have you deluded yourself into thinking your worth? It's obvious Con is deadly afraid of Precott and wants the easiest fight possible. So do everyone a favor and take the fight. The faster you accept the faster this charade is over. Not only that but the chances of you losing to a fellow scrub like Graeme Higginson or Peter McDonagh are pretty fucking high. I doubt the offer will still be on the table after that
i dont really agree mate
khan will get millions while he gets 100k if that?
yeah khan should get the lions share but to that extent? paul still has to go through the training and the press and all the build upo and get to the arena and face the crowd
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Violent Demise
I'm not a huge fan of Con the way i am of Manny Pacquiao and was of Joe Calzaghe. I'm only an average fan of Con. It's pretty obvious Con wants to dictate everything here. Some of his counter offers are just moronic (25% on sales over 200000). But at the same time doesn't Paul McCloskey realize he's only Paul McCloskey? Why the fuck is he trying to negotiate like he's actually somebody? He's no Tim Bradley or Marcos Maidana. He ain't even a Julio Diaz or Willy Blain. Bradley and Maidana are 2 of the division top stars. Diaz is a shot former champion. But he was a champion. Blain at least can say he's a 2 time Olympian amateur star. Paul McCloskey is like Paul McCloskey. And Paul McCloskey's don't get to make demands. His team admitted the offer was twice what he ever made. Does he not know getting doubled what you ever made is actually a good thing? Unless his previous highest purse was $12 dollars what the fuck is the problem? Your Paul McCloskey. How much have you deluded yourself into thinking your worth? It's obvious Con is deadly afraid of Precott and wants the easiest fight possible. So do everyone a favor and take the fight. The faster you accept the faster this charade is over. Not only that but the chances of you losing to a fellow scrub like Graeme Higginson or Peter McDonagh are pretty fucking high. I doubt the offer will still be on the table after that
i dont really agree mate
khan will get millions while he gets 100k if that?
yeah khan should get the lions share but to that extent? paul still has to go through the training and the press and all the build upo and get to the arena and face the crowd
The poor bastard.
Nobody really knows who is. To Joe Casual he's not much different to Graham Earl. He'll have been offered close to what he offered Peterson. It's not like a loss to Khan is going to impact his future earning potential. If he makes a good show of it it will probably improve things for him.
He might aswell lose to Khan on Sky Box Office, in front of a couple of thousand Irish fans and a couple of hundred thousand PPV'ers, in the UK at 10pm.
It surely beats fighting a few more tomato cans before losing to someone like Ortiz/Maidana at 3am in Foxwoods Casino, infront of about 75 travelling Irishman and a UK/Irish TV audience that's can't even compete with one of them middle of the night quiz phone-in shows that you get on challenge TV. That's if he's lucky. It might not even make the telly. ;D
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ono
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erics44
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Violent Demise
I'm not a huge fan of Con the way i am of Manny Pacquiao and was of Joe Calzaghe. I'm only an average fan of Con. It's pretty obvious Con wants to dictate everything here. Some of his counter offers are just moronic (25% on sales over 200000). But at the same time doesn't Paul McCloskey realize he's only Paul McCloskey? Why the fuck is he trying to negotiate like he's actually somebody? He's no Tim Bradley or Marcos Maidana. He ain't even a Julio Diaz or Willy Blain. Bradley and Maidana are 2 of the division top stars. Diaz is a shot former champion. But he was a champion. Blain at least can say he's a 2 time Olympian amateur star. Paul McCloskey is like Paul McCloskey. And Paul McCloskey's don't get to make demands. His team admitted the offer was twice what he ever made. Does he not know getting doubled what you ever made is actually a good thing? Unless his previous highest purse was $12 dollars what the fuck is the problem? Your Paul McCloskey. How much have you deluded yourself into thinking your worth? It's obvious Con is deadly afraid of Precott and wants the easiest fight possible. So do everyone a favor and take the fight. The faster you accept the faster this charade is over. Not only that but the chances of you losing to a fellow scrub like Graeme Higginson or Peter McDonagh are pretty fucking high. I doubt the offer will still be on the table after that
i dont really agree mate
khan will get millions while he gets 100k if that?
yeah khan should get the lions share but to that extent? paul still has to go through the training and the press and all the build upo and get to the arena and face the crowd
The poor bastard.
Nobody really knows who is. To Joe Casual he's not much different to Graham Earl. He'll have been offered close to what he offered Peterson. It's not like a loss to Khan is going to impact his future earning potential. If he makes a good show of it it will probably improve things for him.
He might aswell lose to Khan on Sky Box Office, in front of a couple of thousand Irish fans and a couple of hundred thousand PPV'ers, in the UK at 10pm.
It surely beats fighting a few more tomato cans before losing to someone like Ortiz/Maidana at 3am in Foxwoods Casino, infront of about 75 travelling Irishman and a UK/Irish TV audience that's can't even compete with one of them middle of the night quiz phone-in shows that you get on challenge TV. That's if he's lucky. It might not even make the telly. ;D
i see the benefits of taking the fight dude
Re: Team McCloskey reveal (in detail) why fight with Khan is off
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ono
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erics44
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Violent Demise
I'm not a huge fan of Con the way i am of Manny Pacquiao and was of Joe Calzaghe. I'm only an average fan of Con. It's pretty obvious Con wants to dictate everything here. Some of his counter offers are just moronic (25% on sales over 200000). But at the same time doesn't Paul McCloskey realize he's only Paul McCloskey? Why the fuck is he trying to negotiate like he's actually somebody? He's no Tim Bradley or Marcos Maidana. He ain't even a Julio Diaz or Willy Blain. Bradley and Maidana are 2 of the division top stars. Diaz is a shot former champion. But he was a champion. Blain at least can say he's a 2 time Olympian amateur star. Paul McCloskey is like Paul McCloskey. And Paul McCloskey's don't get to make demands. His team admitted the offer was twice what he ever made. Does he not know getting doubled what you ever made is actually a good thing? Unless his previous highest purse was $12 dollars what the fuck is the problem? Your Paul McCloskey. How much have you deluded yourself into thinking your worth? It's obvious Con is deadly afraid of Precott and wants the easiest fight possible. So do everyone a favor and take the fight. The faster you accept the faster this charade is over. Not only that but the chances of you losing to a fellow scrub like Graeme Higginson or Peter McDonagh are pretty fucking high. I doubt the offer will still be on the table after that
i dont really agree mate
khan will get millions while he gets 100k if that?
yeah khan should get the lions share but to that extent? paul still has to go through the training and the press and all the build upo and get to the arena and face the crowd
The poor bastard.
Nobody really knows who is. To Joe Casual he's not much different to Graham Earl. He'll have been offered close to what he offered Peterson. It's not like a loss to Khan is going to impact his future earning potential. If he makes a good show of it it will probably improve things for him.
He might aswell lose to Khan on Sky Box Office, in front of a couple of thousand Irish fans and a couple of hundred thousand PPV'ers, in the UK at 10pm.
It surely beats fighting a few more tomato cans before losing to someone like Ortiz/Maidana at 3am in Foxwoods Casino, infront of about 75 travelling Irishman and a UK/Irish TV audience that's can't even compete with one of them middle of the night quiz phone-in shows that you get on challenge TV. That's if he's lucky. It might not even make the telly. ;D
A loss to Khan does hurt his earning potential. He'll have to give up his Euro belt, which guarantees him dough against beatable opponents. If Khan totally humiliates him, as you all think, then he has to start all over again.
Has Salita been big news since getting slaughtered? How about Kevin Mitchell, Enzo Macc, Gary Lockett, Michael Jennings, etc, etc. Most careers go downhill after losing big fights.
McCloskey has been picked because Team Khan need a "gimme" for an April date. He is not meant to win. So, considering they are not offering "life changing money" and have a shitty rematch option, the guy has a case for refusing it.
Even though in a perfect world I agree he should take the fight purely for the cahnce to win the "world" title ;)
