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Barrera looked out of shape and the guy managed to land a couple decent body shots on him, anyone worth note at 140 would maul both him and Morales, neither guy has any business there, so lets just keep it straight, although it was entertaining Barrera's win against Alf means nothing
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ElTerrible, cmon a second round tko? I dont see how a guy landing a couple body shots indicates Barrera is washed up. I guess he should have knocked him out with the first punch in your eyes. I hope your not thinking the Khan fight showed he is washed up. They should have stopped it in the third so it would have been a NC, but since it was in England they wanted it to go to TD. Come on now.
umm have you not seen any of his other comeback fights? Barrera has been getting tagged by nobodies and has looked like shit, Morales as well, whoever wants to kid themselves into believing either has a real chance in winning another world title, and at 140 nonetheless is just gonna be left with a rude awakening when one of the two if not both end up seriously hurt, which is exactly what i don't want, but if they continue this path it's what's going to happen, Barrera and Morales are no different than Holyfield at this pointQuote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Damn. Even the whores are on the juice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Youngbloodhaha wow. looks kinda like the situation with aids. and look at the size of that chics head on the right in the first pic. wtf? lol is like 3 sizes too big for her body.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
Cotto facing a feather fisted fighter convinced you he's not shot though. Shit at least Barrera made the full 12 against Pac, and he's a smaller guy. So do you feel the same way about Cotto? He even had to backpedal most of the fight against Clottey.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesumm have you not seen any of his other comeback fights? Barrera has been getting tagged by nobodies and has looked like shit, Morales as well, whoever wants to kid themselves into believing either has a real chance in winning another world title, and at 140 nonetheless is just gonna be left with a rude awakening when one of the two if not both end up seriously hurt, which is exactly what i don't want, but if they continue this path it's what's going to happen, Barrera and Morales are no different than Holyfield at this pointQuote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Foreman, Clottey, and even Pacquiao are at higher caliber than anyone Barrera's fight since his comeback (and yes that includes Khan), the Pacquiao Cotto faced would have stopped Barrera AGAIN (or did you forget that Manny knocked him the fuck out as well, he lasted 12 rounds on his second try), Barrera is slow, his movement is predictable, and he's going to get owned once he goes back against a world level fighter, just like Morales is going to against Maidana, it's not like i'm attacking either guy, hell Morales is my favorite fighter but both are shot, and their time has passed, they're looking ordinary against mediocre opposition, at least Cotto is still fighting championship level opponents (aside from Mayorga) and had REAL problems like the shoulder injury, the lack of a real trainer, and the death of his father, what's Barrera's and Morales' excuse aside from well they're shotQuote:
Originally Posted by No ContestCotto facing a feather fisted fighter convinced you he's not shot though. Shit at least Barrera made the full 12 against Pac, and he's a smaller guy. So do you feel the same way about Cotto? He even had to backpedal most of the fight against Clottey.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesumm have you not seen any of his other comeback fights? Barrera has been getting tagged by nobodies and has looked like shit, Morales as well, whoever wants to kid themselves into believing either has a real chance in winning another world title, and at 140 nonetheless is just gonna be left with a rude awakening when one of the two if not both end up seriously hurt, which is exactly what i don't want, but if they continue this path it's what's going to happen, Barrera and Morales are no different than Holyfield at this pointQuote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
No contest, No point talking to him mate. He has been a Barrera hater ever since Marco owned his lover twice.
how am i a Barrera hater? since i say both he and Morales are finished? which is well the general consensus :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
Finished in terms of competing with the elites, maybe, but not against most of the division as Barrera just demonstrated. Or are your such a moron to the point that you believe your eyes deceived you. Unless you can somehow explain MAB's performance, excluding comparisons with his previous fights why he is done as a fighter? Otherwise I'll just assume your comments are purely wind-up.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoraleshow am i a Barrera hater? since i say both he and Morales are finished? which is well the general consensus :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
ummm do you honestly he can compete at 140 or higher? actually why the hell am i asking you, aside from Pacquiao's biography what the fuck do you know about boxing? he looked slow, out of shape, and in no way will he OR MORALES beat any top fighter at 140Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyFinished in terms of competing with the elites, maybe, but not against most of the division as Barrera just demonstrated. Or are your such a moron to the point that you believe your eyes deceived you. Unless you can somehow explain MAB's performance, excluding comparisons with his previous fights why he is done as a fighter? Otherwise I'll just assume your comments are purely wind-up.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoraleshow am i a Barrera hater? since i say both he and Morales are finished? which is well the general consensus :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesummm do you honestly he can compete at 140 or higher? actually why the hell am i asking you, aside from Pacquiao's biography what the fuck do you know about boxing? he looked slow, out of shape, and in no way will he OR MORALES beat any top fighter at 140Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyFinished in terms of competing with the elites, maybe, but not against most of the division as Barrera just demonstrated. Or are your such a moron to the point that you believe your eyes deceived you. Unless you can somehow explain MAB's performance, excluding comparisons with his previous fights why he is done as a fighter? Otherwise I'll just assume your comments are purely wind-up.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoraleshow am i a Barrera hater? since i say both he and Morales are finished? which is well the general consensus :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
You can't do it! Your BS attempt at an argument intentionally misleads the point. Try sticking to your comments about Barrera or even Morales and backing up those statements with a analysis. I'll comment on your BS once you have something tangible.Quote:
Unless you can somehow explain MAB's performance, excluding comparisons with his previous fights why he is done as a fighter? Otherwise I'll just assume your comments are purely wind-up.
i did answer you, but again you're borderline retarded, Barrera in a TKO2 victory looked sluggish, slow, and he was horridly out of shape, that alone lets you know what real chance he has against the likes of Bradley, Khan (again), Ortiz, Alexander, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesummm do you honestly he can compete at 140 or higher? actually why the hell am i asking you, aside from Pacquiao's biography what the fuck do you know about boxing? he looked slow, out of shape, and in no way will he OR MORALES beat any top fighter at 140Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyFinished in terms of competing with the elites, maybe, but not against most of the division as Barrera just demonstrated. Or are your such a moron to the point that you believe your eyes deceived you. Unless you can somehow explain MAB's performance, excluding comparisons with his previous fights why he is done as a fighter? Otherwise I'll just assume your comments are purely wind-up.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoraleshow am i a Barrera hater? since i say both he and Morales are finished? which is well the general consensus :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
You can't do it! Your BS attempt at an argument intentionally misleads the point. Try sticking to your comments about Barrera or even Morales and backing up those statements with a analysis. I'll comment on your BS once you have something tangible.Quote:
Unless you can somehow explain MAB's performance, excluding comparisons with his previous fights why he is done as a fighter? Otherwise I'll just assume your comments are purely wind-up.
same goes for Morales, he barely squeaked by against a mediocre opponent last time out, but why am i wasting my time with you, all you're trying to do is act like you know what the hell you're talking about when 9 times out of 10 it's clear you don't
Its funny how its all the trainers fault when they lose but there was nothing wrong with the trainer when he was undefeated.....lol If he was injured before the Pac fight dont you think he should of postponed? His father dying, you gonna seriously use that as an excuse? Buster Douglas did alright after hearing his mom died, look what he did, went out and beat Tyson. So are you saying that Cotto is just mentally weak?Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesForeman, Clottey, and even Pacquiao are at higher caliber than anyone Barrera's fight since his comeback (and yes that includes Khan), the Pacquiao Cotto faced would have stopped Barrera AGAIN (or did you forget that Manny knocked him the fuck out as well, he lasted 12 rounds on his second try), Barrera is slow, his movement is predictable, and he's going to get owned once he goes back against a world level fighter, just like Morales is going to against Maidana, it's not like i'm attacking either guy, hell Morales is my favorite fighter but both are shot, and their time has passed, they're looking ordinary against mediocre opposition, at least Cotto is still fighting championship level opponents (aside from Mayorga) and had REAL problems like the shoulder injury, the lack of a real trainer, and the death of his father, what's Barrera's and Morales' excuse aside from well they're shotQuote:
Originally Posted by No ContestCotto facing a feather fisted fighter convinced you he's not shot though. Shit at least Barrera made the full 12 against Pac, and he's a smaller guy. So do you feel the same way about Cotto? He even had to backpedal most of the fight against Clottey.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesumm have you not seen any of his other comeback fights? Barrera has been getting tagged by nobodies and has looked like shit, Morales as well, whoever wants to kid themselves into believing either has a real chance in winning another world title, and at 140 nonetheless is just gonna be left with a rude awakening when one of the two if not both end up seriously hurt, which is exactly what i don't want, but if they continue this path it's what's going to happen, Barrera and Morales are no different than Holyfield at this pointQuote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
No, you did not. Fact is, you just repeated the same comment you started out with. 'Slow' is a relative term. Compared to Arias, the guy he just beat, MAB is much quicker. It doesn't explain anything in terms of MAB's technical boxing abilities. You offer nothing to explain why you think MAB cannot compete at a championship level based on this performance. Saying MAB can't beat one fighter or another also doesn't address the subject directly which you still can't do!Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesi did answer you, but again you're borderline retarded, Barrera in a TKO2 victory looked sluggish, slow, and he was horridly out of shape, that alone lets you know what real chance he has against the likes of Bradley, Khan (again), Ortiz, Alexander, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesummm do you honestly he can compete at 140 or higher? actually why the hell am i asking you, aside from Pacquiao's biography what the fuck do you know about boxing? he looked slow, out of shape, and in no way will he OR MORALES beat any top fighter at 140Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyFinished in terms of competing with the elites, maybe, but not against most of the division as Barrera just demonstrated. Or are your such a moron to the point that you believe your eyes deceived you. Unless you can somehow explain MAB's performance, excluding comparisons with his previous fights why he is done as a fighter? Otherwise I'll just assume your comments are purely wind-up.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoraleshow am i a Barrera hater? since i say both he and Morales are finished? which is well the general consensus :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
You can't do it! Your BS attempt at an argument intentionally misleads the point. Try sticking to your comments about Barrera or even Morales and backing up those statements with a analysis. I'll comment on your BS once you have something tangible.Quote:
Unless you can somehow explain MAB's performance, excluding comparisons with his previous fights why he is done as a fighter? Otherwise I'll just assume your comments are purely wind-up.
same goes for Morales, he barely squeaked by against a mediocre opponent last time out, but why am i wasting my time with you, all you're trying to do is act like you know what the hell you're talking about when 9 times out of 10 it's clear you don't
Yeah Barrera looked sluggish and slow, he took 20 seconds to drop the guy, should have been 10.... I cant believe he let him get to the second round, what a shot fighter.:rolleyes: We also all know that abs are the key to boxing, too bad Arias abs didnt help him much. Shit Juan Diaz makes Barrera look like Mr Universe.