Wlad vs the ATG HWs such as Ali, Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Foreman, Lewis, etc.

Wlad vs. ALi? - Ali UD

Wlad vs. Foreman (70s version) Foreman KO

Wlad vs Holyfield? Wlad SD

Wlad vs. Lennox Lewis? Lewis UD

Wlad vs. Larry Holmes? Holmes UD

Wlad vs. Tyson (80s version) Tyson KO

I have no doubt in my mind that Lewis, Foreman and Tyson would all have found Wlads china chin at some point and knocked him out. Ali and Holyfield are more difficult to say but I'd say Ali would still win the majority of the time.

The problem is that Wlad is so utterly untested thanks the awful opponents he's had to fight against in this poor era of heavyweight boxing. It's unfair to say he sucks compared to champs of other eras because he's not had a chance to prove himself against opponents like the others have.

oh and Holmes also beats Wlad but by UD I reckon, Larry had skills.

Wlad vs. ALi? Ali points

Wlad vs. Foreman (70s version)? Foreman late KO

Wlad vs Holyfield? Holyfield points if it was the one that fought Buster.

Wlad vs. Lennox Lewis? Lewis points

Wlad vs. Larry Holmes? Holmes points split decision

Wlad vs. Tyson (80s version)? Tyson KO mid 6th round

Prime Tyson would eat him alive.








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I don't buy that at all, Wlad has the PERFECT style to beat any version of Tyson. Sure Tyson could catch him and follow up but he's got to get to him and being 5'10 and facing a fighter with a dominant jab that isn't an easy task.

One would think that head movement is a key to beat Wlad, but no one does it because no matter where you move your head Wlad finds it with the jab, the hook, or the right cross.

Also even in his prime Tyson could be tied up on the inside.

Tyson tie himself when he is inside most of the times... He is not an in fighter, but he is a good example why being shorter is not disadvantage. He uses his speed, when once in distance he has power in every shot because he is punching up. If you are tall and whant to punch with power you must go on the high level of the oder boxer and than you wont be mobile!

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I don't buy that at all, Wlad has the PERFECT style to beat any version of Tyson. Sure Tyson could catch him and follow up but he's got to get to him and being 5'10 and facing a fighter with a dominant jab that isn't an easy task.

One would think that head movement is a key to beat Wlad, but no one does it because no matter where you move your head Wlad finds it with the jab, the hook, or the right cross.

Also even in his prime Tyson could be tied up on the inside.

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Yes Tyson could be tied up but not for 36 minutes, he would eventually find Wlad. Even if Wlad was successful he would be too negative and give way the rounds and lose the fight.

70's Foreman was a monster, I just think he walks straight through Wlad and totally crushes him.

Larry Holmes might eke out a decision win.... then go on a post-fight tirade about how Wlad gets more press 'cause he's white.

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Larry Holmes might eke out a decision win.... then go on a post-fight tirade about how Wlad gets more press 'cause he's white.

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And Barrack Obama would still have a telephone connected in Wlad's dressing room.

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Larry Holmes might eke out a decision win.... then go on a post-fight tirade about how Wlad gets more press 'cause he's white.

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And Barrack Obama would still have a telephone connected in Wlad's dressing room.

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I think I see what you're getting at... but Barrack would probably have a hot line to Holmes' dressing instead, with Holmes being black and American, and Wlad not. But Holmes would STILL find something to bitch about, probably about how the press and public not liking him 'cause he's black, that he doesn't get paid enough money, blah, blah, blah.

Then he'd make some crack about not only Marciano, but EVERY white heavyweight in history not being able to carry his jock. Then he'd collect his winnings and drive his fat, blubbery self to the nearest bank... where he'd complain about not getting better service because he's black.

Yep....... I truly dislike the guy.

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Larry Holmes might eke out a decision win.... then go on a post-fight tirade about how Wlad gets more press 'cause he's white.

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And Barrack Obama would still have a telephone connected in Wlad's dressing room.

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I think I see what you're getting at... but Barrack would probably have a hot line to Holmes' dressing instead, with Holmes being black and American, and Wlad not. But Holmes would STILL find something to bitch about, probably about how the press and public not liking him 'cause he's black, that he doesn't get paid enough money, blah, blah, blah.

Then he'd make some crack about not only Marciano, but EVERY white heavyweight in history not being able to carry his jock. Then he'd collect his winnings and drive his fat, blubbery self to the nearest bank... where he'd complain about not getting better service because he's black.

Yep....... I truly dislike the guy.

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No I was siding with Holmes. Someone quoted here something he said about Hagler about him being from Philly, being a south paw and being Black. He said "I was Black once, when I was poor", classic line.

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Prime Tyson would eat him alive.








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I don't buy that at all, Wlad has the PERFECT style to beat any version of Tyson. Sure Tyson could catch him and follow up but he's got to get to him and being 5'10 and facing a fighter with a dominant jab that isn't an easy task.

One would think that head movement is a key to beat Wlad, but no one does it because no matter where you move your head Wlad finds it with the jab, the hook, or the right cross.

Also even in his prime Tyson could be tied up on the inside.

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Yes Tyson could be tied up but not for 36 minutes, he would eventually find Wlad. Even if Wlad was successful he would be too negative and give way the rounds and lose the fight.

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....wouldn't take 36 minutes, Tyson didn't lose decisions

Good topic and its nice to compare the current No.1 to those of years gone by.

Wlad vs. ALi - Ali has too much speed and movement and runs rings around Wlad. One sided.

Wlad vs. Foreman (70s version) - Foreman was a strong, powerful and brutal Heavyweight and Wlad's chin is made for George's fists. KO early for Foreman.

Wlad vs Holyfield - Interesting this one and the one Wlad has the most chance in. Holyfield had underated skills and speed and could move in and out while also very tough and physical. I see him outworking Wlad who is less fluid than say Riddick Bowe.

Wlad vs. Lennox Lewis - They match up sizewise but the advantages in speed and power are with Lennox. This is another fight I don't see lasting very long.

Wlad vs. Larry Holmes - Holmes has the better jab and overall skills, he also finds Wlads weakspot (the chin) often enough to end it around the mid to late rounds.

Wlad vs. Tyson (80s version) - Tyson would be like a hot knife through warm butter. A devastating highlight reel for Tyson to add to the many others.

that turkey couldnt hit the broadshot of a red-owl barn with a lightpole extending from his "shoulder" to whatever target on Foreman or Tyson or Holmes he happened to be sadly aiming at. and that's a fact.