The Top 20 Heavyweights as of now

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Originally Posted by BIG H

We have the two Drago brothers, Haye and Adamek, apart from those 4 I have absolutely zero interest in the division.

People criticize Tyson's era, but I would still rather watch: Trevor Berbwick,Pinklon Thomas, Tim Witherspoon, Tony Tubbs, Tyrell Bigss, Carl Williams, Tony Tucker, Michael Spinks than any heavyweight outside of the four I mentioned.

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Yeah i agree again

Beside the brothers it doesn't really matter its them and then everyone else.

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Originally Posted by ludwig

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Regarding your list... and IMO... it's Wlad and Vitali, #1 and #2... then a gap the size of the Grand Canyon... then resuming at # 3. I would normally say that Haye is too far up 'cause he's done more talking than fighting in the division, but.... who would I put in his place? So it's Haye at # 3. Some of these names have quietly come up through the ranks, like Peter... only to be put back in their place by one of the Klitschko brothers and sink back slowly and quietly into obscurity. Lots of "can't miss" has turned into "never was". Arreola is another prime example. Lots of hype... lots of disappointment. It's like a merry-go-round in there.
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Thanks for the welcome!

I think you could make an argument that Chambers, Adamek, Chagaev, and Povetkin should be rated higher than Haye. But ultimately, if it came to a fight between Haye and any of them, can you imagine the odds-makers not favoring Haye? So even if Haye hasn't been fighting significant opponents, he's won his matches with enough panache to convince people he's the best heavy not named Klitschko. Personally I'd give Chambers 50/50 against Haye, Adamek maybe 35/65 (slight underdog), while Povetkin and Chagaev would be heavier underdogs (20/80).

I feel ya on the 'merry-go-round'. Here's hoping someone like Pulev or Helenius puts a run together and becomes a challenge to Wlad worth getting excited about.

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I second your wish for a challenge to Wlad. However... the clock IS ticking. Wlad and Vitali (especially Vitali) aren't going to be around forever, which is what it seems like it's taking for someone else to rise to the challenge. The HUGE disappointment here would be to have a new Tyson or Lewis come up..... only to find that the Klitschkos have retired already, or are way past their prime.