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He attempted to cheat vs Mosley and was caught.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
When?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongSo by your rational Bernard Madoff should have been allowed to continue what he was doing? Margarito cheated, it not only could have cost a fighter their livelihood as a boxer but their LIFE...no sir, Antonio Margarito does not belong in a boxing ring anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseThe man should be allowed to earn a living in his skilled professionQuote:
Originally Posted by bcollinsTrue - just not in a boxing ring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demisehttp://www.thescubasite.com/smile/sad/sad0020.gif Sad that you would hate on your fellow American. The man should be allowed to earn a livingQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongA little correction here...they were only caught trying to load wraps vs Mosley. Since that is the only proof admisable in the court of law that is why their sentences were so soft because it was based more on "attempt" rather than the actual assault that happened. I like many Cotto fans point to how Margarito has responded since being caught by the authorities and hell you can look at Luis Resto and he lost by KO 3 times in his career and lost 8 times overall and I think the KO's he lost were to fighters of equal or lesser stature as Billy Collins Jr.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I think Antonio Margarito as a boer is 100% finished, I don't want Cotto to fight him again just because of the money Margarito would be making, he's a despicable person and a disgrace to the sport.
As for Billy Collins Jr., his death was due to a number of things #1 He had an addictive personality #2 His father treated him as a prodigy (from Mozart to Pistol Pete Maravich to Todd Marinovich they are RARELY happy) #3 The injuries sustained in the fight with Resto.....that was the icing on the cake. His father's attitude, the beating he took, the prolonged time outside of the ring, that allowed him to drink more and there you have it. It was "the perfect storm" for tragedy.
Big difference between murder and attempted murder. A guy who tried to kill someone but failed can't be called a murderer. Cuz he never succeeded. To call Margarito a cheater is nothing but slander on the mans name. He's never cheatedQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongHe attempted to cheat vs Mosley and was caught.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseWhen?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongSo by your rational Bernard Madoff should have been allowed to continue what he was doing? Margarito cheated, it not only could have cost a fighter their livelihood as a boxer but their LIFE...no sir, Antonio Margarito does not belong in a boxing ring anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseThe man should be allowed to earn a living in his skilled professionQuote:
Originally Posted by bcollinsTrue - just not in a boxing ring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demisehttp://www.thescubasite.com/smile/sad/sad0020.gif Sad that you would hate on your fellow American. The man should be allowed to earn a livingQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongA little correction here...they were only caught trying to load wraps vs Mosley. Since that is the only proof admisable in the court of law that is why their sentences were so soft because it was based more on "attempt" rather than the actual assault that happened. I like many Cotto fans point to how Margarito has responded since being caught by the authorities and hell you can look at Luis Resto and he lost by KO 3 times in his career and lost 8 times overall and I think the KO's he lost were to fighters of equal or lesser stature as Billy Collins Jr.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I think Antonio Margarito as a boer is 100% finished, I don't want Cotto to fight him again just because of the money Margarito would be making, he's a despicable person and a disgrace to the sport.
As for Billy Collins Jr., his death was due to a number of things #1 He had an addictive personality #2 His father treated him as a prodigy (from Mozart to Pistol Pete Maravich to Todd Marinovich they are RARELY happy) #3 The injuries sustained in the fight with Resto.....that was the icing on the cake. His father's attitude, the beating he took, the prolonged time outside of the ring, that allowed him to drink more and there you have it. It was "the perfect storm" for tragedy.
When people are caught cheating, it is rarely the first time they have done it. It's just the first time that they have been caught...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Simple answer, haven't read the thread or any of the posts in it.
Panama Lewis
OK so by that rational then the Collins-Resto fight was the first and ONLY time Panama Lewis #1 Applied plaster of paris to his boxer's wraps and #2 Mixed drugs in his fighter's water to help them gain an advantage? I mean it's not like he was officially caught in the Arguello-Pryor match where he asked for the black water bottle "the one I mixed"Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
In my opinion in BOXING where life is already on the line even when every single safety measure is adhered to, the simple ATTEMPT to cheat by loading wraps should be punishable with a lifetime ban.
I'm pretty sure that Panama Lewis removed padding from the gloves, not that he used plaster wraps. He got caught when Coliins Sr. shook hands with Resto and felt that there was no padding in the gloves and he alerted a ringside official.
yep can see that pretty clearly in the vid i posted ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
And I'm pretty sure Luis Resto said Panama also put plaster of paris wraps on his hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
He got caught in his own locker room. His hands were already wrapped illegaly. That right there, is presently cheating. And the past tense of "cheating" is CHEATED.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseBig difference between murder and attempted murder. A guy who tried to kill someone but failed can't be called a murderer. Cuz he never succeeded. To call Margarito a cheater is nothing but slander on the mans name. He's never cheatedQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongHe attempted to cheat vs Mosley and was caught.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseWhen?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongSo by your rational Bernard Madoff should have been allowed to continue what he was doing? Margarito cheated, it not only could have cost a fighter their livelihood as a boxer but their LIFE...no sir, Antonio Margarito does not belong in a boxing ring anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseThe man should be allowed to earn a living in his skilled professionQuote:
Originally Posted by bcollinsTrue - just not in a boxing ring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demisehttp://www.thescubasite.com/smile/sad/sad0020.gif Sad that you would hate on your fellow American. The man should be allowed to earn a livingQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongA little correction here...they were only caught trying to load wraps vs Mosley. Since that is the only proof admisable in the court of law that is why their sentences were so soft because it was based more on "attempt" rather than the actual assault that happened. I like many Cotto fans point to how Margarito has responded since being caught by the authorities and hell you can look at Luis Resto and he lost by KO 3 times in his career and lost 8 times overall and I think the KO's he lost were to fighters of equal or lesser stature as Billy Collins Jr.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I think Antonio Margarito as a boer is 100% finished, I don't want Cotto to fight him again just because of the money Margarito would be making, he's a despicable person and a disgrace to the sport.
As for Billy Collins Jr., his death was due to a number of things #1 He had an addictive personality #2 His father treated him as a prodigy (from Mozart to Pistol Pete Maravich to Todd Marinovich they are RARELY happy) #3 The injuries sustained in the fight with Resto.....that was the icing on the cake. His father's attitude, the beating he took, the prolonged time outside of the ring, that allowed him to drink more and there you have it. It was "the perfect storm" for tragedy.
Coz he would be much more likely to have chosen to tamper with his gloves for the 1st time against a 38 year old Mosely rather than a 32-0 Cotto :confused: Nothing is proven, but highly unlikely that after 42 fights and having fought Willaims, Cintron and Cotto that he would then chose to start playing with wraps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseBig difference between murder and attempted murder. A guy who tried to kill someone but failed can't be called a murderer. Cuz he never succeeded. To call Margarito a cheater is nothing but slander on the mans name. He's never cheatedQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongHe attempted to cheat vs Mosley and was caught.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseWhen?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongSo by your rational Bernard Madoff should have been allowed to continue what he was doing? Margarito cheated, it not only could have cost a fighter their livelihood as a boxer but their LIFE...no sir, Antonio Margarito does not belong in a boxing ring anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseThe man should be allowed to earn a living in his skilled professionQuote:
Originally Posted by bcollinsTrue - just not in a boxing ring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demisehttp://www.thescubasite.com/smile/sad/sad0020.gif Sad that you would hate on your fellow American. The man should be allowed to earn a livingQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongA little correction here...they were only caught trying to load wraps vs Mosley. Since that is the only proof admisable in the court of law that is why their sentences were so soft because it was based more on "attempt" rather than the actual assault that happened. I like many Cotto fans point to how Margarito has responded since being caught by the authorities and hell you can look at Luis Resto and he lost by KO 3 times in his career and lost 8 times overall and I think the KO's he lost were to fighters of equal or lesser stature as Billy Collins Jr.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I think Antonio Margarito as a boer is 100% finished, I don't want Cotto to fight him again just because of the money Margarito would be making, he's a despicable person and a disgrace to the sport.
As for Billy Collins Jr., his death was due to a number of things #1 He had an addictive personality #2 His father treated him as a prodigy (from Mozart to Pistol Pete Maravich to Todd Marinovich they are RARELY happy) #3 The injuries sustained in the fight with Resto.....that was the icing on the cake. His father's attitude, the beating he took, the prolonged time outside of the ring, that allowed him to drink more and there you have it. It was "the perfect storm" for tragedy.