Is Mayweather Jr. really worth the PPV mega-bucks he gets for his "fights"?

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Originally Posted by therealremi

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

Also Mayweather is a big star in the black community, you should see my facebook page when he fights, people with no interest in boxing (particularly women) are all talking about his fight. I can only imagine it is even more so over in the States.

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That's probably due to media hype? There are a few black top P4P fighters that the black communities could cheer for instead.

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No, it's because he's good-looking, cocky, incredibly athletic & he wins. I mean you can't tell a community who they should be liking. Shane Mosley had plenty of media hype at one-time, he never won over the black community in the way Floyd or Roy did.

It's like saying all the Mexican fans rooting for Canelo or JCC Jr should root for Humberto Soto or Fernando Montiel instead, they're not going to like who someone else tells them too, they'll go for the person who engages them.

When he fought ODH they created his bad guy persona to help sell the fight. (I think he loved the money so much that he absorbed the persona)

Many people watch his fights because they want to see him lose. That's the entertainment value. When people watch the WWE or what ever it's called, and see a bad guy like the Undertaker. They are entertained by the match up of good guy vs. bad guy and it's a proven seller. Mayweather is no different than the Undertaker. The percentage they make is what they are worth in term of the product being purchased. If you don't like the bad guy because he earns money, that your problem. Floyd is happy with that because it makes you remember him and pay attention to when he fights.

Personally, I don't risk buying his fights because his outside style is boring, but some love the sweet science and skills he puts on display. I can wait until it is replayed for free.

I've never purchased one of his ppv's. I'd go with does he deserve it, yes. Based on media spotlight and he obviously generates buzz and draws "fans" who couldn't name a bantamweight if life depended on it. He's a showman. He's a salesman and his own best hype man. Lately more talk is generated on his gimmicks and personal dealings then by anything he does in the ring. He puts ass's in seats and from many perspectives. Case of networks feeding him from a buffett. Some watch to see him fall....some watch to appreciate his twinkle toes type mastery of the squared circle once a year if that. He deserves it but now is he worth the bucks...not mine, not one fooking nickle.

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

I honestly don't get it, i'd much rather watch a couple dozen other fighters that aren't even on PPV, then sit though one of Mayweather Jr's snoozefests, much less have to pay money to see him. Jr. fights like once a year, and gets these huge paydays, what's so special about a Mayweather fight, the action in them all seems mediocre to me.

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Was Tyson worthy? 50 dollar ppv's that last a couple of minutes? I guess it all depends what you like about boxing. Their are people out their who actually think a fight is a failure unless their is a ko. I do not share those views. I like the science and pugilistic purity of the sport as much as I like the brutality. I enjoy the Chacon/Limon type fights but equally enjoy the methodical break down and technical boxing wizardry of a Mayweather.

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Originally Posted by IamInuit

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

I honestly don't get it, i'd much rather watch a couple dozen other fighters that aren't even on PPV, then sit though one of Mayweather Jr's snoozefests, much less have to pay money to see him. Jr. fights like once a year, and gets these huge paydays, what's so special about a Mayweather fight, the action in them all seems mediocre to me.

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Was Tyson worthy? 50 dollar ppv's that last a couple of minutes? I guess it all depends what you like about boxing. Their are people out their who actually think a fight is a failure unless their is a ko. I do not share those views. I like the science and pugilistic purity of the sport as much as I like the brutality. I enjoy the Chacon/Limon type fights but equally enjoy the methodical break down and technical boxing wizardry of a Mayweather.

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A KO is the ultimate in pro prizefighting, especially if it's somewhat unexpected and/or happens between 2 top ranked fighters. Like for example, Martinez's KO of Paul Williams in their 2nd fight, for me, nothing else in boxing beats it. I certainly don't think a fight is a failure without a KO or a brutal beatdown, but this is the hurt business, and frankly I could give a shit less about seeing 10-12 rounds of the "the sweet science", "technical wizardry", or dancing contests, I wanna see a fucking fight.

I can understand the general public thinking Floyd's style is "boring" but if you're a TRUE boxing fan, you would appreciate the defensive genius that Floyd displays everytime he's in the ring. I don't like the guy, persona or not. I think he cherry picks his opponents but I know when there's a one of a kind talent and that's why I tune in whenever he fights. So yes, he is worth the money, IMO, when I pay to see him fight.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

I've never purchased one of his ppv's. I'd go with does he deserve it, yes. Based on media spotlight and he obviously generates buzz and draws "fans" who couldn't name a bantamweight if life depended on it. He's a showman. He's a salesman and his own best hype man. Lately more talk is generated on his gimmicks and personal dealings then by anything he does in the ring. He puts ass's in seats and from many perspectives. Case of networks feeding him from a buffett. Some watch to see him fall....some watch to appreciate his twinkle toes type mastery of the squared circle once a year if that. He deserves it but now is he worth the bucks...not mine, not one fooking nickle.

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LMAO, and not one fookin' nickle of mine either. :cool: I give Mayweather credit for doing a great job marketing himself and there's no doubt that he is skilled/talented and puts butts in the seats, but personally I wouldn't pay 10 cents to see one of his fights. That's not hate, just total lack of any interest.

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Originally Posted by C-Lo

I can understand the general public thinking Floyd's style is "boring" but if you're a TRUE boxing fan, you would appreciate the defensive genius that Floyd displays everytime he's in the ring. I don't like the guy, persona or not. I think he cherry picks his opponents but I know when there's a one of a kind talent and that's why I tune in whenever he fights. So yes, he is worth the money, IMO, when I pay to see him fight.

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Come on C-Lo, if I don't appreciate Mayweather i'm not a true fan of boxing? In my case, it's not about lack of appreciation, it's about disinterest, there's dozens of other fighters i'd much rather watch, and to me, Mayweather's fights are too infrequent for him to be relevant to boxing anymore.

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

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Originally Posted by C-Lo

I can understand the general public thinking Floyd's style is "boring" but if you're a TRUE boxing fan, you would appreciate the defensive genius that Floyd displays everytime he's in the ring. I don't like the guy, persona or not. I think he cherry picks his opponents but I know when there's a one of a kind talent and that's why I tune in whenever he fights. So yes, he is worth the money, IMO, when I pay to see him fight.

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Come on C-Lo, if I don't appreciate Mayweather i'm not a true fan of boxing? In my case, it's not about lack of appreciation, it's about disinterest, there's dozens of other fighters i'd much rather watch, and to me, Mayweather's fights are too infrequent for him to be relevant to boxing anymore.

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I wasn't targeting you on this. I was making a general statement. Whether or not you believe he deserves the money for his fights, he is a great talent and that can't be denied.

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

I honestly don't get it, i'd much rather watch a couple dozen other fighters that aren't even on PPV, then sit though one of Mayweather Jr's snoozefests, much less have to pay money to see him. Jr. fights like once a year, and gets these huge paydays, what's so special about a Mayweather fight, the action in them all seems mediocre to me.

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Floyd Mayweather is a master of his art. He is like a Maradona or Federer of boxing. He barely puts a foot wrong in a bout and though his fights never look like a Hagler-Hearns re-run, he always impresses the boxing purists. Love him or hate him the man is a genius once in the ring.

Watching Mayweather go through the gears in a fight is the most beautiful thing in the sport of Boxing. The end.

Have you watched Floyd Mayweather Jr's fights in lower weightclasses ? he was exciting then and had some good battles with N'dou, Chavez, Augustus, ETC.

some of the responses on here are straight up ridiculous...

SHAME ON FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR. FOR USING ALL OF HIS SKILL AND NATURAL GIVEN TALENT TO DOMINATE HIS OPPONENTS, IT'S OBVIOUS HE SHOULDN'T TRAIN AT ALL CAUSE THAT WAY HIS FIGHTS WILL BE MORE COMPETITIVE AND THE FANS WILL GET TWO GUYS JUST PUNCHING EACH OTHER...

Floyd is the best natural pure boxer of his generation, he dominates his opponents, WORLD CLASS opponents because he's that much better than them, he sells fights, he gets you guys to buy his PPV, no different than what Mayorga does with all of his trash talking, the only difference is Floyd makes good on his claims that he's gonna fuck the other guy up, he might not KO them, but what fighter on that list (apart from maybe DLH and Baldomir) did Floyd not whoop badly? against Zab he was on the verge of a stoppage when Judah did the infamous low blow riot, he did knock Hatton the fuck out, against Marquez he could have gotten the KO whenever he wanted after the 3rd and chose to get in a few rounds, and IMO he had Mosley pretty much out of it by the 8th stunning him a few times with those hard accurate straight right hands if he would have pressed more i wouldn't have been shocked to see him get the stoppage, the other two guys well were known for having granite chins at that time and well a certain Golden Boy wasn't weight drained and shot to bits

I absolutely think there are more exciting fighters out there that provide more bang for your buck, and maybe even you would say more value for money...

But Mayweather is really something special.. Along with Whitaker, he is the most skillful boxer I have ever seen... I have got nearly every one of his fights, and it just an absolute pleasure to watch him.... Yes you won't get a slug fest with him, but his skill and dominance against otherwise A class fighters is something very special... And will be remembered as such for a long time..

I think he is worth every dollar, even though you can get a lot more excitement from other fighters/fights... Just the appreciation alone that you can have for Mayweather's boxing class and skill, makes his PPV figures well earned...

Many future boxing fans will be just as appreciative to discover this old Mayweather Jr character and how talented he was....

Boxing has all of those characters where you will get "a fuck!ng fight", but you have the other fighters who are technical geniuses... And I am 100% with C-Lo... And think he would also agree that as a true boxing fan, you can appreciate and get excited over both types of fighters....

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Originally Posted by rjj tszyu

Floyd Mayweather is a master of his art. He is like a Maradona or Federer of boxing. He barely puts a foot wrong in a bout and though his fights never look like a Hagler-Hearns re-run, he always impresses the boxing purists. Love him or hate him the man is a genius once in the ring.

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Word.

Spot on.

He earns his money, no doubt.