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Yeah I confused M Griffin with M Barrett............sorry.
Anyway, 13 punches per round? really? :o
Marciano used to throw 76 punches per round on average from rounds1-7, then the windmill really got going to about 100 punches per round from 8-15. Watch it and count.
Fighters dont have the ferocity, veracity, and alacrity these days.
haye would knock marciano out in a roundQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
that night was set up for jones to win, even if ruiz would have won jones would have wonQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Jones wasnt any everyday small guy either
Haye is a good champ man, like it or lump it and he has a very real chance of beating wlad :)
Wlad vs Haye is on , its time for the talking to stop and lets see who wins.
Personally i like both fighters , but i think its the most exciting fight for a while in the hw division.
Both punchers , both dodgy chins.
A guy can fight relatively mediocre opposition for a period of time and still prove himself to be a great fighter in the end. We'll find out if Haye is one of those types when he fights Wlad.
Personally, I think Wlad will beat him handily, but Haye's got more than a puncher's chance. He's fast, hits hard, and Wlad's chin, which I think is better than most people give him credit for, is far from ironclad.
[QUOTE][/Qhaye would knock marciano out in a round UOTE]
last week I drank my last Coopers Best Extra Stout, but in the meantime I'll take a bottle of whatever you're drinkin'.
[QUOTE=brocktonblockbust;964897]ha ha good gag, are you a stand up?Quote:
[/Qhaye would knock marciano out in a round UOTE]
last week I drank my last Coopers Best Extra Stout, but in the meantime I'll take a bottle of whatever you're drinkin'.
what have you got against the fella? why dont you like him? whether his whole carear he has been protected and only fought has bins or every single fight has been against superman who cares, the klits reign has been completely dull and boring for the last few years, david haye has given us somethjing to look forward to in the hw division
give him a pat on the back for that. And he was unified undisputed cruiserweight champ in spectacular style and heavyweight champ in only his 3rd fight at the weight and he has very good power and he's looked very exciting
[QUOTE=erics44;964966]the real word to describe the Klitschko's reign is DOMINANT, they've both cleaned out the division and have knocked out nearly everyone they face, they might not fight like they're going to war but apart from the Imbrogimov fight neither has had a more boring fight than Haye/Valuev, scratch that even the Imbrogimov fight wasn't as boring as that farce and it had a clear winner also, Haye gets the flack he deserves, he's talked a hell of a lot more than he's done, he's talking about saving the division when he's barely done anything, hell i'd say Adamek has already a more impressive record at HW than Haye and that's without a title, now he's lined up for a title fight and he doesn't get talked bad about cause he's earned his shot with his fists and not his mouthQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
[QUOTE=ElTerribleMorales;964983]another haye haterQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44the real word to describe the Klitschko's reign is DOMINANT, they've both cleaned out the division and have knocked out nearly everyone they face, they might not fight like they're going to war but apart from the Imbrogimov fight neither has had a more boring fight than Haye/Valuev, scratch that even the Imbrogimov fight wasn't as boring as that farce and it had a clear winner also, Haye gets the flack he deserves, he's talked a hell of a lot more than he's done, he's talking about saving the division when he's barely done anything, hell i'd say Adamek has already a more impressive record at HW than Haye and that's without a title, now he's lined up for a title fight and he doesn't get talked bad about cause he's earned his shot with his fists and not his mouthQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
yep klits have been dominant, do you think that wlads fights (in general) are entertaining? have you been at all entertained by the hw scene over the last few years? are you a little more excited about it now? do you think that that is because of wlad's style of fighting? have we maybe got a little something to be thankful to haye about?
it is my opinion that the hw scene has never been worse (in my boxing lifetime) not because of the ability of the champs but their style
having said that vitali would get into a scrap if he had to
[QUOTE=erics44;964985]have i thought that Haye has been anymore exciting than Wlad with his choice of opposition? no, Wlad's fights haven't all been boring but they have all been against the top guys in the HW division, and no i'm not anymore excited about the HW division i still rank it as one of the weakest divisions, and no i have nothing to be thankful to Haye about, he's done nothing but flap his gums and fight bumsQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesanother haye haterQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44the real word to describe the Klitschko's reign is DOMINANT, they've both cleaned out the division and have knocked out nearly everyone they face, they might not fight like they're going to war but apart from the Imbrogimov fight neither has had a more boring fight than Haye/Valuev, scratch that even the Imbrogimov fight wasn't as boring as that farce and it had a clear winner also, Haye gets the flack he deserves, he's talked a hell of a lot more than he's done, he's talking about saving the division when he's barely done anything, hell i'd say Adamek has already a more impressive record at HW than Haye and that's without a title, now he's lined up for a title fight and he doesn't get talked bad about cause he's earned his shot with his fists and not his mouthQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
yep klits have been dominant, do you think that wlads fights (in general) are entertaining? have you been at all entertained by the hw scene over the last few years? are you a little more excited about it now? do you think that that is because of wlad's style of fighting? have we maybe got a little something to be thankful to haye about?
it is my opinion that the hw scene has never been worse (in my boxing lifetime) not because of the ability of the champs but their style
having said that vitali would get into a scrap if he had to
if he manages to beat a Klitschko well he deserves all the praise in the world, because right now both of them (Vitali and Wlad) are GREAT FIGHTERS, nothing to do with hating Haye, just he hasn't done shit to deserve the type of praise you're hell bent on everyone giving him
[QUOTE=ElTerribleMorales;964989]if you were no more excited aboy the division now than you was pre-haye then you wouldnt be making threads like thisQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44have i thought that Haye has been anymore exciting than Wlad with his choice of opposition? no, Wlad's fights haven't all been boring but they have all been against the top guys in the HW division, and no i'm not anymore excited about the HW division i still rank it as one of the weakest divisions, and no i have nothing to be thankful to Haye about, he's done nothing but flap his gums and fight bumsQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesanother haye haterQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44the real word to describe the Klitschko's reign is DOMINANT, they've both cleaned out the division and have knocked out nearly everyone they face, they might not fight like they're going to war but apart from the Imbrogimov fight neither has had a more boring fight than Haye/Valuev, scratch that even the Imbrogimov fight wasn't as boring as that farce and it had a clear winner also, Haye gets the flack he deserves, he's talked a hell of a lot more than he's done, he's talking about saving the division when he's barely done anything, hell i'd say Adamek has already a more impressive record at HW than Haye and that's without a title, now he's lined up for a title fight and he doesn't get talked bad about cause he's earned his shot with his fists and not his mouthQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
yep klits have been dominant, do you think that wlads fights (in general) are entertaining? have you been at all entertained by the hw scene over the last few years? are you a little more excited about it now? do you think that that is because of wlad's style of fighting? have we maybe got a little something to be thankful to haye about?
it is my opinion that the hw scene has never been worse (in my boxing lifetime) not because of the ability of the champs but their style
having said that vitali would get into a scrap if he had to
if he manages to beat a Klitschko well he deserves all the praise in the world, because right now both of them (Vitali and Wlad) are GREAT FIGHTERS, nothing to do with hating Haye, just he hasn't done shit to deserve the type of praise you're hell bent on everyone giving him
Are there any good heavies around for Haye to fight? Or the Klitschkos, for that matter.
[QUOTE=erics44;965010]i didn't make the thread jackass lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesif you were no more excited aboy the division now than you was pre-haye then you wouldnt be making threads like thisQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44have i thought that Haye has been anymore exciting than Wlad with his choice of opposition? no, Wlad's fights haven't all been boring but they have all been against the top guys in the HW division, and no i'm not anymore excited about the HW division i still rank it as one of the weakest divisions, and no i have nothing to be thankful to Haye about, he's done nothing but flap his gums and fight bumsQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesanother haye haterQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44the real word to describe the Klitschko's reign is DOMINANT, they've both cleaned out the division and have knocked out nearly everyone they face, they might not fight like they're going to war but apart from the Imbrogimov fight neither has had a more boring fight than Haye/Valuev, scratch that even the Imbrogimov fight wasn't as boring as that farce and it had a clear winner also, Haye gets the flack he deserves, he's talked a hell of a lot more than he's done, he's talking about saving the division when he's barely done anything, hell i'd say Adamek has already a more impressive record at HW than Haye and that's without a title, now he's lined up for a title fight and he doesn't get talked bad about cause he's earned his shot with his fists and not his mouthQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
yep klits have been dominant, do you think that wlads fights (in general) are entertaining? have you been at all entertained by the hw scene over the last few years? are you a little more excited about it now? do you think that that is because of wlad's style of fighting? have we maybe got a little something to be thankful to haye about?
it is my opinion that the hw scene has never been worse (in my boxing lifetime) not because of the ability of the champs but their style
having said that vitali would get into a scrap if he had to
if he manages to beat a Klitschko well he deserves all the praise in the world, because right now both of them (Vitali and Wlad) are GREAT FIGHTERS, nothing to do with hating Haye, just he hasn't done shit to deserve the type of praise you're hell bent on everyone giving him
I agree with Eric's sentiment. If Haye were not around, what heavyweight fight would we be talking about? Adamek vs Vitali? Im not so sure many people are excited about the outcome there.
Or maybe we would be fired up about Povetkin or Dimitrenko? I doubt this.
And with Solis on recovery and no known date he will be back in action, there is just not much excitement.
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
nope but you love it like it was your own
ive never read such passion from you :)