Why does Haye despise Wlad so much?

Animosity, envy, jealousy.

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Originally Posted by miles

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Originally Posted by captainanddew

I think there is some real fear on Haye's part.

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There would have to be a fair bit of that. So you go from old man Ruiz to Harrison.....to Wlad Klitschko. Haye has been all smoke and mirrors and HW and he knows it. That's why the retirement fund was boosted before finally having to face the music that is Wlad. Now it's time to cash the chips and make sure the beating isn't too bad.

Just maybe he really believes he has gone up the right way and believes he is on track, but I think he would have to be seriously deluded to think that. Haye has talked his way through HW. He hasn't actually beaten anyone that a 48 year old Holyfield couldn't.

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You make some good points but I doubt Holyfield beats Monte Barrett and he wouldnt blast away Harrison either like Haye did.. Not even sure he beats Harrison..

Haye's resume at HW is pretty respectable imo. I mean, who else was he supposed to fight to prepare himself for Wlad who's head and shoulders above the rest?

People talk about how he ran against Valuev but the truth is, he did exactly what he was supposed to do against a towering giant and it would have been foolish for him to do otherwise. He showed the ability to stay composed and execute his gameplan for 12 rounds.

This is the right time for him to face Wlad..

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Originally Posted by :::PSL:::

Animosity, envy, jealousy.

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THAT.... and "fear".

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

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Originally Posted by miles

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Originally Posted by captainanddew

I think there is some real fear on Haye's part.

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There would have to be a fair bit of that. So you go from old man Ruiz to Harrison.....to Wlad Klitschko. Haye has been all smoke and mirrors and HW and he knows it. That's why the retirement fund was boosted before finally having to face the music that is Wlad. Now it's time to cash the chips and make sure the beating isn't too bad.

Just maybe he really believes he has gone up the right way and believes he is on track, but I think he would have to be seriously deluded to think that. Haye has talked his way through HW. He hasn't actually beaten anyone that a 48 year old Holyfield couldn't.

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You make some good points but I doubt Holyfield beats Monte Barrett and he wouldnt blast away Harrison either like Haye did.. Not even sure he beats Harrison..

Haye's resume at HW is pretty respectable imo. I mean, who else was he supposed to fight to prepare himself for Wlad who's head and shoulders above the rest?

People talk about how he ran against Valuev but the truth is, he did exactly what he was supposed to do against a towering giant and it would have been foolish for him to do otherwise. He showed the ability to stay composed and execute his gameplan for 12 rounds.

This is the right time for him to face Wlad..

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:D I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Grim reaper gives Holy the day off and he beats Barret

I'll jump up and down on the whole tree and say my 18 yr old niece could have beat up that Harrison.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

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Originally Posted by miles

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Originally Posted by captainanddew

I think there is some real fear on Haye's part.

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There would have to be a fair bit of that. So you go from old man Ruiz to Harrison.....to Wlad Klitschko. Haye has been all smoke and mirrors and HW and he knows it. That's why the retirement fund was boosted before finally having to face the music that is Wlad. Now it's time to cash the chips and make sure the beating isn't too bad.

Just maybe he really believes he has gone up the right way and believes he is on track, but I think he would have to be seriously deluded to think that. Haye has talked his way through HW. He hasn't actually beaten anyone that a 48 year old Holyfield couldn't.

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You make some good points but I doubt Holyfield beats Monte Barrett and he wouldnt blast away Harrison either like Haye did.. Not even sure he beats Harrison..

Haye's resume at HW is pretty respectable imo. I mean, who else was he supposed to fight to prepare himself for Wlad who's head and shoulders above the rest?

People talk about how he ran against Valuev but the truth is, he did exactly what he was supposed to do against a towering giant and it would have been foolish for him to do otherwise. He showed the ability to stay composed and execute his gameplan for 12 rounds.

This is the right time for him to face Wlad..

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:D I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Grim reaper gives Holy the day off and he beats Barret

I'll jump up and down on the whole tree and say my 18 yr old niece could have beat up that Harrison.

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Is your niece's name Ann Wolfe? :o

He doesn't hate Wlad. He is trying to convince himself that he does but he doesn't. There isn't anything to 'hate' about Wladimir. He's a gentlemen outside of the ring, very intelligent, funny and respects his opponents. Even Haye couldn't contain his laughter with Wladimir's Borat impression. It's all publicity.

i dont like wlad

and i agree with haye on one thing that the heavies division is shit and its largely because of wlad

and it isnt just his boring style that has made championship fights so shit,
-its the fact that he wants his cake and he wants to eat it in negotiations
-all his fights are in germany infront of thousands of quiet fans
-he has virtually no charisma when selling a fight
-his style is boring but not only that there is never a battle when he fights he either donminates or falls over
-related to the point a abovem but dont we love a fighter who can give some and take some? dont we look up to bravery? theres absolutely none of that with wlad
-undercards are shit full of fighters noone outside germany has heard of
-his refs all have stoopid hair cuts
-ok there isnt that much depth in the division but he never takes an risks at all with who or what or where or how he fights (I can gaurentee that he wouldnt be fighting haye if he hadnt been backed against a wall)

and there is no style or fashion of flair about anything he does in or out of the ring, boxing is show biz and he hasnt got it

the sooner he isnt champ the better for everyone

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Originally Posted by erics44

i dont like wlad

and i agree with haye on one thing that the heavies division is shit and its largely because of wlad

and it isnt just his boring style that has made championship fights so shit,
-its the fact that he wants his cake and he wants to eat it in negotiations
-all his fights are in germany infront of thousands of quiet fans
-he has virtually no charisma when selling a fight
-his style is boring but not only that there is never a battle when he fights he either donminates or falls over
-related to the point a abovem but dont we love a fighter who can give some and take some? dont we look up to bravery? theres absolutely none of that with wlad
-undercards are shit full of fighters noone outside germany has heard of
-his refs all have stoopid hair cuts
-ok there isnt that much depth in the division but he never takes an risks at all with who or what or where or how he fights (I can gaurentee that he wouldnt be fighting haye if he hadnt been backed against a wall)

and there is no style or fashion of flair about anything he does in or out of the ring, boxing is show biz and he hasnt got it

the sooner he isnt champ the better for everyone

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...Try not to cry when Wlad destroys your boy.

I know what haye's doing and why he's doing it. It's much easier to show no mercy to someone you don't like.....


Interestingly enough I was asked by an old friend who I thought would win the fight. I said I'll be cheering David on the whole way but in my head I know he's the underdog and wlad probably will win.

My mate said 'I think haye is going to absolutely demolish him'.

I'm comforted by the fact that however good/bad haye does their will be a fat yank that's been beaten worse. ;D

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

I know what haye's doing and why he's doing it. It's much easier to show no mercy to someone you don't like.....


Interestingly enough I was asked by an old friend who I thought would win the fight. I said I'll be cheering David on the whole way but in my head I know he's the underdog and wlad probably will win.

My mate said 'I think haye is going to absolutely demolish him'.

I'm comforted by the fact that however good/bad haye does their will be a fat yank that's been beaten worse. ;D

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Thompson and Chambers have better chins (and better defense) than the WBA title holder and I doubt the WBA title holder hangs around for a prolonged Brewster 2 type beating.....just a hunch, but you keep the faith sweetheart ;D

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

I know what haye's doing and why he's doing it. It's much easier to show no mercy to someone you don't like.....


Interestingly enough I was asked by an old friend who I thought would win the fight. I said I'll be cheering David on the whole way but in my head I know he's the underdog and wlad probably will win.

My mate said 'I think haye is going to absolutely demolish him'.

I'm comforted by the fact that however good/bad haye does their will be a fat yank that's been beaten worse. ;D

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Thompson and Chambers have better chins (and better defense) than the WBA title holder and I doubt the WBA title holder hangs around for a prolonged Brewster 2 type beating.....just a hunch, but you keep the faith sweetheart ;D

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I can't wait to punish you for these comments :)

I am actually going away the day after the big fight so i'll set you a new name and sig etc before I go, and then when I get back the torment will truly start :D

Lol Greb and Norfolk hated each other. This film is a joke.

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by erics44

i dont like wlad

and i agree with haye on one thing that the heavies division is shit and its largely because of wlad

and it isnt just his boring style that has made championship fights so shit,
-its the fact that he wants his cake and he wants to eat it in negotiations
-all his fights are in germany infront of thousands of quiet fans
-he has virtually no charisma when selling a fight
-his style is boring but not only that there is never a battle when he fights he either donminates or falls over
-related to the point a abovem but dont we love a fighter who can give some and take some? dont we look up to bravery? theres absolutely none of that with wlad
-undercards are shit full of fighters noone outside germany has heard of
-his refs all have stoopid hair cuts
-ok there isnt that much depth in the division but he never takes an risks at all with who or what or where or how he fights (I can gaurentee that he wouldnt be fighting haye if he hadnt been backed against a wall)

and there is no style or fashion of flair about anything he does in or out of the ring, boxing is show biz and he hasnt got it

the sooner he isnt champ the better for everyone

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...Try not to cry when Wlad destroys your boy.

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honestly man, i think there is a much much much bigger chance of you crying if wlad loses than me crying if haye does

but anyway, which of my points do you disagree with?

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

I know what haye's doing and why he's doing it. It's much easier to show no mercy to someone you don't like.....


Interestingly enough I was asked by an old friend who I thought would win the fight. I said I'll be cheering David on the whole way but in my head I know he's the underdog and wlad probably will win.

My mate said 'I think haye is going to absolutely demolish him'.

I'm comforted by the fact that however good/bad haye does their will be a fat yank that's been beaten worse. ;D

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Thompson and Chambers have better chins (and better defense) than the WBA title holder and I doubt the WBA title holder hangs around for a prolonged Brewster 2 type beating.....just a hunch, but you keep the faith sweetheart ;D

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Nope. both were fat and crap, typical american heavyweights. You can say they did better after the haye fight, not before.

I'd call you 'sweetheart' or 'darling' but I'm not a fag so I'll leave that kind of talk to you :gay5:

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Originally Posted by rjj tszyu

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

I know what haye's doing and why he's doing it. It's much easier to show no mercy to someone you don't like.....


Interestingly enough I was asked by an old friend who I thought would win the fight. I said I'll be cheering David on the whole way but in my head I know he's the underdog and wlad probably will win.

My mate said 'I think haye is going to absolutely demolish him'.

I'm comforted by the fact that however good/bad haye does their will be a fat yank that's been beaten worse. ;D

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Thompson and Chambers have better chins (and better defense) than the WBA title holder and I doubt the WBA title holder hangs around for a prolonged Brewster 2 type beating.....just a hunch, but you keep the faith sweetheart ;D

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I can't wait to punish you for these comments :)

I am actually going away the day after the big fight so i'll set you a new name and sig etc before I go, and then when I get back the torment will truly start :D

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I wouldn't worry mate. If the unthinkable was to happen and haye wins this fight. The shit the lyle is going to get over it is going to be shock and awe levels that have never been witnessed on this forum before.