Re: Would you care if Mayweather Jr. never fought again or retired?
I hope to see him against Pacquiao one of these days. However, the "I am retiring/taking vacations/refusing offers lasted too long, I lost a huge part of interest because of that waiting in the meantime and there are so many other interesting fights that can be make in the meantime. If that fight happens, excellent, otherwise there is plenty to look for anyway.
Re: Would you care if Mayweather Jr. never fought again or retired?
I would actually prefer him to retire at this stage... We had a good 2+ years without him, and in comeback he fought a 130 pound fighter, and Mosley which were both zero in the interesting catagory..
One of the most talented fighters i've personally seen, but he hasn't fought anyone relevant to his legacy or that of a great fighter in at least 4 years, and has proven he does not intend to in the future, so just retire...
A legend would have downed Mosley, and signed straight up for Martinez.... Unless he grows some balls to go along with the skills, there is no point at all in boxing have his name listed as an active fighter....
Retire and be done with it.... I couldN'T care less about what he does from this point on.
Re: Would you care if Mayweather Jr. never fought again or retired?
i wouldnt give a rat's ass if little boy bellweather joined a circus freak show as a transvestite carrying a bunch of bananas on top of his head while tap dancing.
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i wouldnt give a rat's ass if little boy bellweather joined a circus freak show as a transvestite carrying a bunch of bananas on top of his head while tap dancing.
Let's be honest, you would wouldn't you. I think a lot people would. ;D
Re: Would you care if Mayweather Jr. never fought again or retired?
Mans already a atg undefeated with a good list of names on his resume and is rich i could care less.
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Mans already a atg undefeated with a good list of names on his resume and is rich i could care less.
So you care quite a lot then?
"I couldn't care less" is the appropriate phrase. ;)
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I would actually prefer him to retire at this stage... We had a good 2+ years without him, and in comeback he fought a 130 pound fighter, and Mosley which were both zero in the interesting catagory..
One of the most talented fighters i've personally seen, but he hasn't fought anyone relevant to his legacy or that of a great fighter in at least 4 years, and has proven he does not intend to in the future, so just retire...
A legend would have downed Mosley, and signed straight up for Martinez.... Unless he grows some balls to go along with the skills, there is no point at all in boxing have his name listed as an active fighter....
Retire and be done with it.... I couldN'T care less about what he does from this point on.
Spot on, last meaningful fight was with Hatton, after that he doesnt want to risk himself anymore !
He'll never fight Pac, too scared. May as well retire now, thats the only fight we want to see him in.
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If Mayweather doesn't fight Pacquiao then he definitely hurts his own legacy, whatever problem PBF has with Pacman it didn't bother Marquez, DLH, Cotto, Hatton, Margo or Mosley?
The challenge is there for PBF, i'm not buying his excuses not to fight him, if Pacman is doing something untoward then why has he not been caught, stripped of titles and banned from boxing?
Because boxing only does urine testing which detects fuck all.
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Athletes, swimmers, cyclists get caught all the time, what is PBF's real problem? I'd say it's more like inactivity and a real fear of losing that 0 more than anything else!
Those are sports that have out of competition random blood testing and that's why those people get caught.
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I think PBF believes he can't beat him.
You're entitled to your opinion. Maybe your right. It doesn't change the fact that that fight ain't happening.
It will be the one thing that shadows his otherwise brilliant career.
The urine tests haven't bothered anybody else since Pacquiao turned pro 15 years ago and 58 fights later, my opinion is just that... until Floyd proves otherwise. There is more to this than just a piss test and what Floyd thinks Manny Pacquaio is doing. Boxing really needs this fight, in fact it needs two fights at least, but i doubt we will see it.
And mosley wasn't bothered about doing a random blood test. Clean athletes don't care. But none of that matters because when all's said and done the fight's not happening.
I agree boxing maybe does need this fight. It would be HUGE. But it's not going to happen, as fans I think we all need to move on and away from it.
Re: Would you care if Mayweather Jr. never fought again or retired?
I don't care anymore, clearly there is a lot more to boxing than one man. And if he doesn't want to take part for whatever reason then that is his call. No big deal.
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Dizaster
I would actually prefer him to retire at this stage... We had a good 2+ years without him, and in comeback he fought a 130 pound fighter, and Mosley which were both zero in the interesting catagory..
One of the most talented fighters i've personally seen, but he hasn't fought anyone relevant to his legacy or that of a great fighter in at least 4 years, and has proven he does not intend to in the future, so just retire...
A legend would have downed Mosley, and signed straight up for Martinez.... Unless he grows some balls to go along with the skills, there is no point at all in boxing have his name listed as an active fighter....
Retire and be done with it.... I couldN'T care less about what he does from this point on.
Good post, it echo's my sentiments, at this point Mayweather isn't relative to boxing, and if he leaves boxing he'll fade into oblivion, and be remembered NOT as an alltime great, but as an unpopular fighter who failed to live up to their potential.
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Mark TKO
i don't care about Mayweather but I do care about the sport
if PBF and Pac don't get it on then ther are robbing us of a fight which would draw a line under this generation of p4ps and we could move onto the next. They could both retire after that (as long as it isn't a draw !) and people would back them in giving up.
but imo Floyd is sticking two fingers up at the sport that made him 'money' Mayweather and don't give a shit about the fans. He is certainly afraid of Pac for some reason but I actually believe he would beat Pac quite convincingly.
The only fight I'd like to see Mayweather in is either with Pacquiao or Martinez. Other than that, he can stay retired.
Okey, I'll give him a pass with Ortiz if he intends that to be a tune-up fight prior to facing either of the two.
PS: Oppps, sorry about that. I don't even know why I quoted Mark TKO.
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If Mayweather doesn't fight Pacquiao then he definitely hurts his own legacy, whatever problem PBF has with Pacman it didn't bother Marquez, DLH, Cotto, Hatton, Margo or Mosley?
The challenge is there for PBF, i'm not buying his excuses not to fight him, if Pacman is doing something untoward then why has he not been caught, stripped of titles and banned from boxing?
Because boxing only does urine testing which detects fuck all.
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THE THIRD MAN
Athletes, swimmers, cyclists get caught all the time, what is PBF's real problem? I'd say it's more like inactivity and a real fear of losing that 0 more than anything else!
Those are sports that have out of competition random blood testing and that's why those people get caught.
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THE THIRD MAN
I think PBF believes he can't beat him.
You're entitled to your opinion. Maybe your right. It doesn't change the fact that that fight ain't happening.
It will be the one thing that shadows his otherwise brilliant career.
The urine tests haven't bothered anybody else since Pacquiao turned pro 15 years ago and 58 fights later, my opinion is just that... until Floyd proves otherwise. There is more to this than just a piss test and what Floyd thinks Manny Pacquaio is doing. Boxing really needs this fight, in fact it needs two fights at least, but i doubt we will see it.
And mosley wasn't bothered about doing a random blood test. Clean athletes don't care. But none of that matters because when all's said and done the fight's not happening.
I agree boxing maybe does need this fight. It would be HUGE. But it's not going to happen, as fans I think we all need to move on and away from it.
I really don't believe if it did happen, Pac vs FBF, would be all that great. Everyone seems to think this would be the next fight of the century, but I don't believe it would be much above average, or even close to being FOTY material.
I seriously don't get why Duckweather gets as much attention or big money offers as he does, to me he's just a boring/brainless/semi-literate clown.
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THE THIRD MAN
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Hornfinger
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THE THIRD MAN
If Mayweather doesn't fight Pacquiao then he definitely hurts his own legacy, whatever problem PBF has with Pacman it didn't bother Marquez, DLH, Cotto, Hatton, Margo or Mosley?
The challenge is there for PBF, i'm not buying his excuses not to fight him, if Pacman is doing something untoward then why has he not been caught, stripped of titles and banned from boxing?
Because boxing only does urine testing which detects fuck all.
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Originally Posted by
THE THIRD MAN
Athletes, swimmers, cyclists get caught all the time, what is PBF's real problem? I'd say it's more like inactivity and a real fear of losing that 0 more than anything else!
Those are sports that have out of competition random blood testing and that's why those people get caught.
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Originally Posted by
THE THIRD MAN
I think PBF believes he can't beat him.
You're entitled to your opinion. Maybe your right. It doesn't change the fact that that fight ain't happening.
It will be the one thing that shadows his otherwise brilliant career.
The urine tests haven't bothered anybody else since Pacquiao turned pro 15 years ago and 58 fights later, my opinion is just that... until Floyd proves otherwise. There is more to this than just a piss test and what Floyd thinks Manny Pacquaio is doing. Boxing really needs this fight, in fact it needs two fights at least, but i doubt we will see it.
And mosley wasn't bothered about doing a random blood test. Clean athletes don't care. But none of that matters because when all's said and done the fight's not happening.
I agree boxing maybe does need this fight. It would be HUGE. But it's not going to happen, as fans I think we all need to move on and away from it.
if floyd is going to insist on random testing up to the day of the fight i also don't think the fight is ever going to happen. pacquiao had categorically stated he's willing to take the test but just not too close to the fight. really, if they can agree on maybe a 7 day cut-off and i've seen in some freddy roach and pac interviews where they're saying that they're willing to do it, so i don't see any reason why floyd would insist on what he wants. i mean what kind of juicing can you do in one week? and they would have another test immediately after the fight. as much as i would like clean fighters competing, i also don't want pacquiao offering the excuse that the blood test weakened him in case floyd beats him coz it happened before in the first morales fight. but then it doesn't matter who's to blame coz ultimately all boxing fans are the ones who's going to lose out if the fight doesn't happen.
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Mark TKO
i don't care about Mayweather but I do care about the sport
if PBF and Pac don't get it on then ther are robbing us of a fight which would draw a line under this generation of p4ps and we could move onto the next. They could both retire after that (as long as it isn't a draw !) and people would back them in giving up.
but imo Floyd is sticking two fingers up at the sport that made him 'money' Mayweather and don't give a shit about the fans. He is certainly afraid of Pac for some reason butI actually believe he would beat Pac quite convincingly.
now wouldn't we all want to see that? ... i mean if he can. lol
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Floyd is a quality boxer who is the only boxer at welter who could possibly beat Manny Pac. However the longer he stays out the ring, and older he gets the less chance he has of winning the fight and people caring. The only reason his stock rises is because Manny is dominate over his opponents that he is clearing the division and challengers, so naturally we all ask about Floyd.
Floyd is definitely not a star PPV attraction or world wide celebrity, over in the UK at least. If he fights we will all watch if he does not then we will not really care. He is not worth the gross amounts of money people are quoting but sadly I think he loves his unbeaten record too much to risk the fight.
