re: Predictions for if Haye had fought a Prime Tyson
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....Ali, Foreman, Louis, Lewis, Holyfield, and probably a few more people would beat a prime Tyson.
....As for this match up certainly Tyson would be beaten in about 5 and that's IF the WBA title holder chooses to carry him ;D
Wrong. :hypnodisk::hypnodisk:
Furthermore in your zeal to disparage Tyson you have included people who fought in previous eras to Tyson like Louis and Ali. I was talking about concurrent fighters with Tyson. No way any of them you mention could beat the Tyson who beat Spinks. No way. He was untouchable at that time.:cool:
re: Predictions for if Haye had fought a Prime Tyson
Tyson would kick his rear end into touch inside of a round, he would dispose of Wlad in two. Vitali would last longer, but you can't fight Tyson with your hands down so much.
re: Predictions for if Haye had fought a Prime Tyson
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re: Predictions for if Haye had fought a Prime Tyson
Prime Tyson who fought Mike Spinks smokes just about everybody in ANY era, by the way, except 1973 George Foreman who I think smokes everybody period.
re: Predictions for if Haye had fought a Prime Tyson
I said only a George Foreman beats 1988 Tyson.
Lewis does NOT beat 1988 Tyson, nor does Holyfield.
Brown Bomber, hmmm, gotta think about that, I think 1988 Tyson was quicker and more difficult to hit than Joe. I'd go with 1988 Tyson over Joe Louis.
re: Predictions for if Haye had fought a Prime Tyson
Tyson does a Michael Spinks but only faster.
re: Predictions for if Haye had fought a Prime Tyson
From what we have seen from Haye so far I think he would get blasted out early.
re: Predictions for if Haye had fought a Prime Tyson
Tyson is all wrong for Haye.
To stand a good chance against tyson, a good chin is a necessity.
Or at least height and a high enough work rate
Maybe Wlad would have the height, jab, and elusiveness to keep Tyson away at a safe distance. As long as Tyson doesnt land big it would work out.
But Haye would not be able to keep Tyson away with his style. Tyson would swarm until he landed some big shots, and that would likely be it. Probably inside 3 rounds.
re: Predictions for if Haye had fought a Prime Tyson
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Tyson would kick his rear end into touch inside of a round, he would dispose of Wlad in two. Vitali would last longer, but you can't fight Tyson with your hands down so much.
....How would Mike reach Vitali's chin when Lennox Lewis had a difficult enough time doing that?
Brock, you've contradicted yourself "nobody beats Prime Tyson" and "1973 Foreman beats Tyson".....#1 "Prime Tyson" wasn't unbeatable or untouchable (Smith and Bruno rocked him) #2 Joe Louis is the Greatest Heavyweight of ALL Time and he would have crushed Tyson! Ali would have toyed with Iron Mike and any version of Big George would have whipped him. As for Lewis and Holyfield....they beat Mike in real life, I don't see why they wouldn't have been able to beat him in his prime.
Michael Spinks was a damn light heavyweight man!!!
I totally agree with you here Lyle. Tyson had an invincible aura around him because he battered bums. His very best win came vs an ancient Larry Holmes who couldn't get his shots off and the only other 2 HW legends he fought kicked his ass. I'm sick of hearing he was past his best by the time he fought Holyfield. Well MAYBE but upto that point after his release from prison he was doing exactly what he was in his PRIME and that was battering bums. Hell he even beat Bruno in better fashion than he did in this so called unbeatable PRIME of his. Another thing that Tyson fans forget is going into the fight Evander was completely washed up, so imagine what a prime Evander would have done to him.
re: Predictions for if Haye had fought a Prime Tyson
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rjj tszyu
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El Kabong
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miles
Tyson would kick his rear end into touch inside of a round, he would dispose of Wlad in two. Vitali would last longer, but you can't fight Tyson with your hands down so much.
....How would Mike reach Vitali's chin when Lennox Lewis had a difficult enough time doing that?
Brock, you've contradicted yourself "nobody beats Prime Tyson" and "1973 Foreman beats Tyson".....#1 "Prime Tyson" wasn't unbeatable or untouchable (Smith and Bruno rocked him) #2 Joe Louis is the Greatest Heavyweight of ALL Time and he would have crushed Tyson! Ali would have toyed with Iron Mike and any version of Big George would have whipped him. As for Lewis and Holyfield....they beat Mike in real life, I don't see why they wouldn't have been able to beat him in his prime.
Michael Spinks was a damn light heavyweight man!!!
I totally agree with you here Lyle.
Tyson had an invincible aura around him because he battered bums. His very best win came vs an ancient Larry Holmes who couldn't get his shots off and the only other 2 HW legends he fought kicked his ass. I'm sick of hearing he was past his best by the time he fought Holyfield. Well MAYBE but upto that point after his release from prison he was doing exactly what he was in his PRIME and that was battering bums. Hell he even beat Bruno in better fashion than he did in this so called unbeatable PRIME of his. Another thing that Tyson fans forget is going into the fight Evander was completely washed up, so imagine what a prime Evander would have done to him.
This man gets it. I mean when you ko guys like Michael Jack Johnson, Sammy Scaff, blownup light heavies like Spinks and old man Holmes, you create an aura of invincibility. But against atg Heavies like Lewis and Evander, he got his ass handed to him. What's funny is that they say Tyson was past his best, but so were Evander and Lewis when Tyson fought them.
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generalbulldog
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
miles
Tyson would kick his rear end into touch inside of a round, he would dispose of Wlad in two. Vitali would last longer, but you can't fight Tyson with your hands down so much.
....How would Mike reach Vitali's chin when Lennox Lewis had a difficult enough time doing that?
Brock, you've contradicted yourself "nobody beats Prime Tyson" and "1973 Foreman beats Tyson".....#1 "Prime Tyson" wasn't unbeatable or untouchable (Smith and Bruno rocked him) #2 Joe Louis is the Greatest Heavyweight of ALL Time and he would have crushed Tyson! Ali would have toyed with Iron Mike and any version of Big George would have whipped him. As for Lewis and Holyfield....they beat Mike in real life, I don't see why they wouldn't have been able to beat him in his prime.
Michael Spinks was a damn light heavyweight man!!!
I totally agree with you here Lyle.
Tyson had an invincible aura around him because he battered bums. His very best win came vs an ancient Larry Holmes who couldn't get his shots off and the only other 2 HW legends he fought kicked his ass. I'm sick of hearing he was past his best by the time he fought Holyfield. Well MAYBE but upto that point after his release from prison he was doing exactly what he was in his PRIME and that was battering bums. Hell he even beat Bruno in better fashion than he did in this so called unbeatable PRIME of his. Another thing that Tyson fans forget is going into the fight Evander was completely washed up, so imagine what a prime Evander would have done to him.
This man gets it. I mean when you ko guys like Michael Jack Johnson, Sammy Scaff, blownup light heavies like Spinks and old man Holmes, you create an aura of invincibility. But against atg Heavies like Lewis and Evander, he got his ass handed to him. What's funny is that they say Tyson was past his best, but so were Evander and Lewis when Tyson fought them.
Spot on mate.
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generalbulldog
What's funny is that they say Tyson was past his best, but so were Evander and Lewis when Tyson fought them.
Mike put no effort in to trying to regain the skills that made him great in the first place and although Holyfield and Lewis may have been past their best they still cared enough about their career and legacy to hire decent trainers, stay in long camps and train seriously. Mike did none of these things.
It took Lewis 8 rounds to take out a man who wasnt fighting back and taking every right hand he threw. Had that Tyson still moved his head and feet Lewis wouldnt have been so keen to throw anything. Mike was only taking fights for money and only getting them because of his name value. How did he earn the Lewis shot???
In Mikes previous fight against Golota he actually said he was retiring because hed had enough. He was supposed to fight David Izon and Ray Mercer as warm ups. The Izon fght fell through and Lewis blocked the Mercer fight. Mike wasnt even active at the point he fought Lewis.
re: Predictions for if Haye had fought a Prime Tyson
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rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
miles
Tyson would kick his rear end into touch inside of a round, he would dispose of Wlad in two. Vitali would last longer, but you can't fight Tyson with your hands down so much.
....How would Mike reach Vitali's chin when Lennox Lewis had a difficult enough time doing that?
Brock, you've contradicted yourself "nobody beats Prime Tyson" and "1973 Foreman beats Tyson".....#1 "Prime Tyson" wasn't unbeatable or untouchable (Smith and Bruno rocked him) #2 Joe Louis is the Greatest Heavyweight of ALL Time and he would have crushed Tyson! Ali would have toyed with Iron Mike and any version of Big George would have whipped him. As for Lewis and Holyfield....they beat Mike in real life, I don't see why they wouldn't have been able to beat him in his prime.
Michael Spinks was a damn light heavyweight man!!!
I totally agree with you here Lyle.
Tyson had an invincible aura around him because he battered bums. His very best win came vs an ancient Larry Holmes who couldn't get his shots off and the only other 2 HW legends he fought kicked his ass. I'm sick of hearing he was past his best by the time he fought Holyfield. Well MAYBE but upto that point after his release from prison he was doing exactly what he was in his PRIME and that was battering bums. Hell he even beat Bruno in better fashion than he did in this so called unbeatable PRIME of his. Another thing that Tyson fans forget is going into the fight Evander was completely washed up, so imagine what a prime Evander would have done to him.
This man gets it. I mean when you ko guys like Michael Jack Johnson, Sammy Scaff, blownup light heavies like Spinks and old man Holmes, you create an aura of invincibility. But against atg Heavies like Lewis and Evander, he got his ass handed to him. What's funny is that they say Tyson was past his best, but so were Evander and Lewis when Tyson fought them.
Spot on mate.
naa completely wrong mate, you can pick holes in everyones records, if you take that approach every fighter in boxing history was over rated or shit or just beat up on bums
Tyson was awesome, a phenomonom and i hope one day we get another tyson
Tyson was way past his best when he fought lewis, he was still a force when he fought hollyfield but not a patch on the fighter he had been 10 years (or whatever) before