...this thread is going exactly how i predicted it would.
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...this thread is going exactly how i predicted it would.
LOL, the Fight WAS close. Kieran Mulvaney had it a draw, a JUDGE had it a draw, Graham Houston called the decision "debatable," Jim Watt had Valuev winning, Bob Sheridan had it a draw. Sounds like a close fight to me!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I'm a "maroon?" I guess you're calling me a moron. Fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmauiYes, I counted them myself (stopping and starting to get them all) ona bet after alleging 13 had thrown 20 punches per round, far and away the lowest I'd ever heard of. A Brit 13 fan said I was completely wrong so I did the count myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterHilarious.Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmauiIn other words the LOWEST number you could find is MORE THAN TWICE what 13 threw!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
And BHOP LOST!
Bwahahahaha
Whatever Haye's punch output, he won the Valuev fight by a landslide. However, 13 became "24" when he fought the far superior Wlad Klitschko. Bernard Hopkins, a 100% bonafide GREAT fighter, threw only 3 more punches per round in his effort to defend his long-standing undisputed middleweight crown. THREE punches per round more than Haye. THREE!!!
Haye's loss was without question. Hopkins lost close.
Can you confidently state your figures are 100% correct? Have you actually counted these blows?
Again the lowest you could find was TWICE as much as 13's! And 13 now has the TWO lowest outputs you've been able to find? Only a maroon doesn't find that staggering.
That kind of output displays an attitude that says "I'll survive and leave this up to the judges." There is no other way to see it. Again the next lowest by another fighter you could find was TWICE as many. TWICE!
Haye WON the fight with his 13 (according to you) punches per round. What's the problem? No-one on earth thinks he lost that fight. You only have an argument if the fight was close. 95% of people saw Haye win EASY.
I'm showing you low output is NOTHING new in boxing. Great fighters sometimes don't throw much. Make of it what you will. ;)
There is "low output" and there is LOW OUTPUT!
The best you've come up with is TWICE (not 5% more or 25% more but TWICE) as many blows being thrown.
TWICE!
I'm gonna go look up "boring" Wlad kiltschko's lowest output (mighta been against 13) in the last 5-6 years. I'll post it below.
Against Ibraghimov Wlad threw 348. That's the lowest I've found. That is, again, more than TWICE 13's output against Valuev.
I think we should have a tag team thread where Marbleheadmaui Fenster, Violent Demise and Adam just go for it.
Mismatch.
Yeah, I agree. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
As if I didn't predict a 'I know you are but what am I' type response... ;)
All in fun. :)
[laughing]Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Hey nobody ever got rich overestimating my maturity!
Doesn't surprise me that Stewart would say this.
Before the fight
"Haye is a threat he could knock out Wladimir"
After the fight
"I knew Haye was a punk and it would be an easy fight."
Pretty much the same way his announcing is
Before the fight
"Fighter A is going to win this fight, no way he can lose its just too good."
After the fight when Fighter B wins
"This is how I saw the fight going."
Yeah, Manny, keep on always trying to be right as if what you said prior wasn't already on tape
I'm pretty sure I read an article in the ring where manny said the haye fight would be an easy one for him, so not sure he flip flopped there. He however does flip flop in his commentating and its sort of annoyingQuote:
Originally Posted by Majesty