Victor Ortiz vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

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Originally Posted by MMASUX

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I definitely think this will be his toughest fight in recent memory. Mosley was shot, JMM a blown up LW, ODLH was shot, he said it himself. I think his heart will be tested even more than the Maidana fight, Floyd will frustrate him throughout the night and Vic will have to keep coming through punches. I would love for Vic to get the win;D

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It would have to be considered a big upset, let's hope Ortiz doesn't get screwed on the Judges scorecards if it goes to a decision. Vic is the 'Champion', so it's up to Floyd to take the title, and Vic ain't gonna give it up easy.

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I agree 100%, Ortiz is not going to make it easy for Floyd. He's going to have to get the KO to get the win. If it goes to a decision i can't see him winning it. I'm really pulling for Vic, i'm tired of listening to the Mayweathers.

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Really? You think a slugger like Vic is gonna land more clean shots than Floyd, one of the slickest defensive fighters I've seen, and also one of the best counter-punchers? DLH may say now 'I was shot' but how much is that for his own ego, and how much was it for Ortiz's? Fact is DLH was a far superior fighter to Ortiz, and he put a lot of pressure on Mayweather and had some early success with the jab. Keep in mind, though, that DLH was a great fighter, with a lot of ring experience, who came up with (imo) the correct game plan to give Mayweather trouble/beat him, yet he couldn't stick to it for 12 rounds, and even when he was leading with the jab and throwing 3,4 punches from different angles, Floyd was dodging/blocking 95% of his shots and hitting DLH *between* his shots. His aggression and partial success, however (along with the fact a lot of Mayweather's timed shots were probably not seen clearly over DLH's flailing, windmill arms), and of course, his name, no doubt ensured a SD, BUT tbh it could easily have been a UD. There is no way Vic will win on the cards, unless he manages to knock Floyd down, but even should he get the nod in that case I would imagine PBF would still finish the fight with a much higher connection percentage. I guess it comes down to how you score fights, but personally I've always thought the bottom line of *boxing* was to out-box your opponent. I really see only three possible outcomes: Floyd UD; Floyd SD; Floyd TKO. Of course there is an outside chance that Ortiz could land a good shot and KO Floyd, or KD him and then jump all over him, but I don't think he is as heavy handed as Shane, nor does he have that man's experience. The one thing he does have on his side is youth, and he should jump on Floyd early and try to mug him, but I think in the end Ortiz's style is gonna land him in serious trouble, he could even be dismantled in a similar way to Hatton, though his chin should stand up to any punishment PBF can dish out much better than Hatton's did. Time will tell - one punch (from either fighter) can change it all, in anycase, and if the fight is nothing else, I think it should be interesting to watch.

My guess: Floyd UD 12 (boardcards showing something like 116-112). If Mayweather is has lost some of his skill and his stamina then Ortiz propably will knock out him. But i think FM has been well trained for this fight.

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

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Originally Posted by MMASUX

I definitely think this will be his toughest fight in recent memory. Mosley was shot, JMM a blown up LW, ODLH was shot, he said it himself. I think his heart will be tested even more than the Maidana fight, Floyd will frustrate him throughout the night and Vic will have to keep coming through punches. I would love for Vic to get the win;D

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It would have to be considered a big upset, let's hope Ortiz doesn't get screwed on the Judges scorecards if it goes to a decision. Vic is the 'Champion', so it's up to Floyd to take the title, and Vic ain't gonna give it up easy.

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Dont we all know that the judges will be looking at Floyd as if he holds the belt and all the cards in this.

Hey y'all just wanted to weigh in with my two cents.

From the emotional side of things, I really hope to see Ortiz put his gloves through the dark hole mayweather calls his mouth.

Having your parents leave you, his brother and Victor defending for themselves. I always root for the underdog.

Now my logical side sees Money with the win. Ulta slick defenses, the right hand, the mental lead up to the fight.

One thing I thought was interesting on 24/7 was Floyd doing 3 a days. I know his work ethic got him to this point, but at 34 years-old with a long lay-off, how much of this training is him doubting his skills are as sharp as they use to be?

I think it's time for a new humble Champion in my boy, VO

Floyd is in great shape and Ortiz has done all he can. Speed and guile belongs to Floyd and experience is in his corner. Ortiz has youth and speed but the flexibility of a snake and adaptability belongs to Floyd. Power is a plus that makes Ortiz a threat but you have to cut the ring off on Floyd. He has to become a larger version of Castillo.

Can anyone do a blow for blow RBR on this one, old school style??? Pretty sure any links will be nixed by fight time and at $70 flipping bucks honestly don't expect many to pay for it!

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Originally Posted by MMASUX

I definitely think this will be his toughest fight in recent memory. Mosley was shot, JMM a blown up LW, ODLH was shot, he said it himself. I think his heart will be tested even more than the Maidana fight, Floyd will frustrate him throughout the night and Vic will have to keep coming through punches. I would love for Vic to get the win;D

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It would have to be considered a big upset, let's hope Ortiz doesn't get screwed on the Judges scorecards if it goes to a decision. Vic is the 'Champion', so it's up to Floyd to take the title, and Vic ain't gonna give it up easy.

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Dont we all know that the judges will be looking at Floyd as if he holds the belt and all the cards in this.

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Andre is this fight PPV in Australia? It is here through Primetime.

Personally, my interest is in the Lopez/Vargas fight. I don't know a thing about Vargas, and haven't seen lopez in four years...Haven't had butterflies over a fight in a long, long time.

I still cant make my mind up. 1 minute i'm thinking it will be a boring fight and mayweather wins widely over the distance, then i think Ortiz will win by devastating ko early, then i think maybe it's close the whole way through and could be a SD either way then, i just had a thought that it will be like DLH Vargas with Ortiz starting strong and almost overpowering PBF as he swarms all over him then as things start to even out Ortiz may still be a little ahead going in to the later rounds but he starts to fade, gets caught and stopped late. :confused:

hmmmm

Sup guys. Been a while.

tell ya what I think is going to happen. Much like just about every fight in recent times PBF has had, myself and many others who think his out of ring antics and lifestyle are ridic and that he's a chump, at some point during the fight we forget all that as he puts a display of defensive genius, of mastery of the sport, the ring, his timing, adaptability...and awe will set in.

And by the end we are forgetting all the personal life stuff and admiring the man for what he truly is and can do with this sport, as the absolute range of his skill is again realized. At least that is how it has went for me every time I've watched him before.

So when does does the Morales start?

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Originally Posted by Youngblood

Sup guys. Been a while.

tell ya what I think is going to happen. Much like just about every fight in recent times PBF has had, myself and many others who think his out of ring antics and lifestyle are ridic and that he's a chump, at some point during the fight we forget all that as he puts a display of defensive genius, of mastery of the sport, the ring, his timing, adaptability...and awe will set in.

And by the end we are forgetting all the personal life stuff and admiring the man for what he truly is and can do with this sport, as the absolute range of his skill is again realized. At least that is how it has went for me every time I've watched him before.

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Nice to see you again. Good point it doesn't really matter what he does out of the ring it's in the ring that counts. Floyd has great reflexes and timing and can make guys look slow and unco. I would like Ortiz to win but I just feel that a fight like this is maybe a little premature for him at t his point in his career. Time will tell though. Should be an interesting tussle.

Lampley on the coverage. Here we go.

finally the card is on!

OMG the main fight don't start till 5am :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\