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Not sure about that. Magee rocked him with a shot that was even worse than the knockdown. Ricky grabbed him to stop going down. Also Vince Phillips hit with a shot that clearly hurt him, Hatton said he saw stars and didn't know whether he was in the MEN or Las Vegas at that point.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
However, that's all part of boxing. He had a solid chin. NO disgrace in getting ironed by Pac and Floyd duffed him up.
This aint no movie or a fairytale. Fighters fight for themselves ... Not for tha fans lol c'mon..
When they say that they are fighting for their family, its bullshit too.ultimately, they are fighting for themselves. Lets live in the real world.
dont remember the magee incident i do remember him saying that about phillips thoQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterNot sure about that. Magee rocked him with a shot that was even worse than the knockdown. Ricky grabbed him to stop going down. Also Vince Phillips hit with a shot that clearly hurt him, Hatton said he saw stars and didn't know whether he was in the MEN or Las Vegas at that point.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
However, that's all part of boxing. He had a solid chin. NO disgrace in getting ironed by Pac and Floyd duffed him up.
what i am trying to say tho is i dont reckon at those earlier times in his carear lascano's punches would have had the same affect
Yeah I agree. If that was a Hatton pre Tyszu he would have bulldozed through him for a stoppage.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44dont remember the magee incident i do remember him saying that about phillips thoQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterNot sure about that. Magee rocked him with a shot that was even worse than the knockdown. Ricky grabbed him to stop going down. Also Vince Phillips hit with a shot that clearly hurt him, Hatton said he saw stars and didn't know whether he was in the MEN or Las Vegas at that point.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
However, that's all part of boxing. He had a solid chin. NO disgrace in getting ironed by Pac and Floyd duffed him up.
what i am trying to say tho is i dont reckon at those earlier times in his carear lascano's punches would have had the same affect
basketball players dont play ball for the fans nor does actors act for the fans. They do it because they are good at what they do and it brings them wealth. Why would a boxer take punches for a bunch of people they dont even know. That some silly ass shit. Everybody is out for thrmselves.
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Originally Posted by FensterYeah I agree. If that was a Hatton pre Tyszu he would have bulldozed through him for a stoppage.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44dont remember the magee incident i do remember him saying that about phillips thoQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterNot sure about that. Magee rocked him with a shot that was even worse than the knockdown. Ricky grabbed him to stop going down. Also Vince Phillips hit with a shot that clearly hurt him, Hatton said he saw stars and didn't know whether he was in the MEN or Las Vegas at that point.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
However, that's all part of boxing. He had a solid chin. NO disgrace in getting ironed by Pac and Floyd duffed him up.
what i am trying to say tho is i dont reckon at those earlier times in his carear lascano's punches would have had the same affect
Now that's going a bit too far.
Being a boxer is a career, a way for them to support their living. I don't believe anyone would do that as a hobby ........ unless they're a sadist/masochist.
The only way I see him fighting for the fans is if he has the option of two fights with almost the same risk, career advancement opportunity and monetary reward. Then, maybe, he'll go for what the fans are clamoring for.
Prize fighting what's the prize MONEY i no a fair few pro fighter's yes they like to fight but they like money yes you have fan's but you fight for yourself boxing is not a team sport.;D
So no-one does boxing as a hobby? that rubbish there are lots of people that go training and sparring to keep fit...Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
I think in the case of someone like Hatton, at heart he was a romantic and he wanted it for himself and all the glory. In the case of someone like Mayweather, no. It is all calculated and cynical.
Hatton fought anyone who was ranked near or above and fell short, Mayweather doesn't come close to that level of heart.
We are talking about professional boxing in here.Quote:
Originally Posted by rampantSo no-one does boxing as a hobby? that rubbish there are lots of people that go training and sparring to keep fit...Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
For someone who does it for training and sparring to keep fit, would there be any fans involved? Look at the title of this thread ......
Yes I know I started it but you went off saying no-one would do it as a hobby, im saying they DO.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerWe are talking about professional boxing in here.Quote:
Originally Posted by rampantSo no-one does boxing as a hobby? that rubbish there are lots of people that go training and sparring to keep fit...Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
For someone who does it for training and sparring to keep fit, would there be any fans involved? Look at the title of this thread ......
If there is any fan involvement then we are dealing with boxers here who does it as a sport? Not those who only do it for training and sparring to keep fit. I didn't completely close out the possibility that some might do it as a hobby hence the statement "unless they're a sadist/masochist". And the statement I made above is an opinion, not a fact, hence the word "I don't believe ....".Quote:
Originally Posted by rampantYes I know I started it but you went off saying no-one would do it as a hobby, im saying they DO.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerWe are talking about professional boxing in here.Quote:
Originally Posted by rampantSo no-one does boxing as a hobby? that rubbish there are lots of people that go training and sparring to keep fit...Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
For someone who does it for training and sparring to keep fit, would there be any fans involved? Look at the title of this thread ......
Now, do you know of any boxer who does it for a hobby?
Yes Amateur boxers!Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerIf there is any fan involvement then we are dealing with boxers here who does it as a sport? Not those who only do it for training and sparring to keep fit. I didn't completely close out the possibility that some might do it as a hobby hence the statement "unless they're a sadist/masochist". And the statement I made above is an opinion, not a fact, hence the word "I don't believe ....".Quote:
Originally Posted by rampantYes I know I started it but you went off saying no-one would do it as a hobby, im saying they DO.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerWe are talking about professional boxing in here.Quote:
Originally Posted by rampantSo no-one does boxing as a hobby? that rubbish there are lots of people that go training and sparring to keep fit...Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
For someone who does it for training and sparring to keep fit, would there be any fans involved? Look at the title of this thread ......
Now, do you know of any boxer who does it for a hobby?
Look closer.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
He was hurt by some Costa Rican fella in the first round of their fight. He was badly hurt (by his own admission) by Vince Phillips and he was hurt by Ben Tackie (again by his own admission). He spent the second half of the Collazo fight on queer street aswell. Mayweather knocked him out, Lazcano rocked him and then Pacquaio nearly killed him
Magee definitely hurt him in that fight. Don't think it was in the same round as the knockdown though.
In summary, he never had a great chin.