BHop is appealing for DQ victory

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

I don't know. I can almost see him using a aim high settle for less scenario, nc or nd. As crap as I think the call was it's like trying to herd cats at this point. I couldn't really see a clear case for DQ ing suplex Chad. If your in the moment and you actually had a fair minded in the moment ref, rather than an almost pre determined ref running on group think, at the most point(s) (intentional or unintentional) deduct and send Hopkins to corner for five minutes as we've seen others do numerous times and he continues or he doesn't if able. In 2nd it would be NC.

He retains the belt whatever it's reversed to but cannot see him retiring, frankly nor should he. I think a rematch would float and both should make it happen for self if not for anyone else. Controversy sells, so does revenge. I'll be in minority but I'll watch.

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So you bought this PPV, right? And are willing to buy the next one?

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Originally Posted by Phillips

Hopkins and Dawson should be ordered to fight again with no extra money involved . Weather it was Hopkins fault or dawson fault they have conned the fans and should fight as soon as possible with the fans that bought tickets for this fight given free tickets for a rematch. This was a sad day in boxing. What a ripoff this fight was. Didn't see no action and these two fighters get paid millions for that very poor display.

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If they made "millions" there would've been a definite rematch. Dawson was on $800,000 depending on sales.

It sold shit.

trust me they both made millions out of this fight and they have ripped off the genuine boxing fans that put they hard earned money into this sport. If they don't do a free rematch boxing will lose a lot of fans due to conmen like Bernard Hopkins.

OK I trust you.

They both made millions (even though the maximum combined purses were $1.8m) and they will seriously consider doing a free rematch.

Bet you spend all day on the phone doing buis?

U know shit. These American light heavyweights are a digrace to the sport. Call themselves world champions when they have never left their own country to fight. u know nothing if u think that they didn't get millions out of this fight!!

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

I don't know. I can almost see him using a aim high settle for less scenario, nc or nd. As crap as I think the call was it's like trying to herd cats at this point. I couldn't really see a clear case for DQ ing suplex Chad. If your in the moment and you actually had a fair minded in the moment ref, rather than an almost pre determined ref running on group think, at the most point(s) (intentional or unintentional) deduct and send Hopkins to corner for five minutes as we've seen others do numerous times and he continues or he doesn't if able. In 2nd it would be NC.

He retains the belt whatever it's reversed to but cannot see him retiring, frankly nor should he. I think a rematch would float and both should make it happen for self if not for anyone else. Controversy sells, so does revenge. I'll be in minority but I'll watch.

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. So you bought this PPV, right? And are willing to buy the next one?

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Oh no, I haven't put money on ppv in about a year, stream. Watch it, not pay for it ;D

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Originally Posted by Phillips

U know shit. These American light heavyweights are a digrace to the sport. Call themselves world champions when they have never left their own country to fight. u know nothing if u think that they didn't get millions out of this fight!!

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Both of them have fought outside of the United States, and if you don't think Canada counts you should meet Marlon wright.

Good move, one guy pushes to the extreme right to claim the titles and a TKO win and the other goes to the other extreme to get the same but with a DQ win for him. B-Hop gets a no-contest, as sure as I am alive, and the titles may be going to either side or vacated.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by Hulk

Hopkins should stop while he's ahead, or at least while the majority of people are on his side for a no contest.

He's risking them not overturning it at all if he wants a freakin DQ.

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Nah I think hes made a good call. Now a no contest ruling becomes the compromise solution for both sides.

If Dawson's side bitch about it the commission will be able to say 'Look we didn't rule in Hopkins favour either...'.

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Brilliant !

Us Hulks aren't use to compromise...we either HULK SMASH !....or we don't.

Politricks and boxing, just decide to call it a no-contest.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

I don't know. I can almost see him using a aim high settle for less scenario, nc or nd. As crap as I think the call was it's like trying to herd cats at this point. I couldn't really see a clear case for DQ ing suplex Chad. If your in the moment and you actually had a fair minded in the moment ref, rather than an almost pre determined ref running on group think, at the most point(s) (intentional or unintentional) deduct and send Hopkins to corner for five minutes as we've seen others do numerous times and he continues or he doesn't if able. In 2nd it would be NC.

He retains the belt whatever it's reversed to but cannot see him retiring, frankly nor should he. I think a rematch would float and both should make it happen for self if not for anyone else. Controversy sells, so does revenge. I'll be in minority but I'll watch.

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. So you bought this PPV, right? And are willing to buy the next one?

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Oh no, I haven't put money on ppv in about a year, stream. Watch it, not pay for it ;D

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That's the problem. If a hardcore boxing fan like yourself don't buy the fights why will a casual sports fan?

You're not the target audience. You (us) will watch the fights regardless.

However, casual fans make up the majority of buys (tickets/ppv). If you can't sell it to hardcores you can't sell it to "Rocky" wanting casuals.

The referee has made his decision and there ain't no change gunna happen. If they change the result what was the point in having a referee for this fight.

This is where Bernard's foxyness comes into play. This is his negotiation tactic. He's asking for a DQ victory in order to get the NC..

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

It's the undisputed number 1 vs the undisputd number 2 in the division. It's the kind of fight that must happen for the good of the sport.

All this talk about them not being worth anything is overblown in my opinion.

If fans arent interested in either fighter then how do they both manage to get fights at all?

It may not make as much as the two fighters would like, but I highly doubt either could make more money fighting anybody else.

All you naysayers will be proved wrong next year when the rematch is made.

Just wait and see.

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Agreed. Like you say Bilbo, they are both at the top of there devision. The two best people fight to see who is the best, thats the way it should be. You have many other devisions where there are two people at the top that have no intention of fighting each other. For example: Floyd & Manny, Khan and Bradley, Martinez & Sterm. They have all been at the top of there devisions for a while but the fights are not happening because they will not fight each other, except Martinez and Khan who seem to want to fight everyone.
I for one enjoyed the last Pascal Bhop fight. Like you said, Bhop turned it around in the Pascal fight so how can you count him out in the Dawson fight.

I know it's not a popular position to take at this point - I'm actually kind of surprised at all the Hopkins-hating ... really. Some very shallow stuff out there. In here, I mean.

Whatever Bernard has done in the past has no bearing on this fight.

When I saw Dawson intentionally throw Hopkins like that, my immediate vocal response was "Disqualification!"

Hopkins should ask for it and should get it.

Compromise to achieve NC? better than a robbery but not honest.